BRP Connect

[ahh-cool]

Those of you with a 2018 with BRP Connect, If you got it to work or you have suggestion put it here.

[ahh-cool]

Do I have to pay for the vehicle connect for it to work?

[ahh-cool]

I just went to the Genius facebook page and they offer discounts on the service

[Spyderglide]

It looks like $2.99 USA

genius maps: gps navigation

[biker01red]

My understanding is Genius Maps is only for point to point navigation, there is no ability to create custom routes....If anyone discovers a way to create custom routes with the 2018 let me know.... I always use custom routes for cross country trips...

[bmwlarry]

I thought I read that Rever was used in some way. Never is a great product allowing you to customize routes. It resides on your phone. Only problem with us cheap folk is that int uses data all the time.

[biker01red]

I thought I read that Rever was used in some way. Never is a great product allowing you to customize routes. It resides on your phone. Only problem with us cheap folk is that int uses data all the time.

Yes, the Rever app is on BRP Connect, however, I talked with a Rever Tech, currently using Rever with BRP Connect you only have the ability to share current routes, BRP has not ok'd using Rever for custom routes, audio, point to point instructions, etc... The Rever Tech said BRP might allow its use in the future, for now only Genius Maps is permitted ..... I currently use Rever for custom routes, download to my Garmin, works fine for me !!!!! I like it better then Basecamp.....follows the route much better.....

[jcthorne]

I thought I read that Rever was used in some way. Never is a great product allowing you to customize routes. It resides on your phone. Only problem with us cheap folk is that int uses data all the time.

The real problem with any app that requires continuous data to function is not the cost, but a great many of the best motorcycle routes are not interstate and do not have cell phone data available. Any GPS that cannot navigate on its own without a data connection is useless on a motorcycle.

Yes its true that genius maps cannot plan routes. Only point to point directions. As is, the BRP connect system is not a functional GPS for motorcycle touring. They have some development to do. If you purchase an 2018, suggest planning on using a Garmin for a while.

[ahh-cool]

It looks like $2.99 USA

genius maps: gps navigation

No the maps are free the connectivity is $50

[ahh-cool]

My understanding is Genius Maps is only for point to point navigation, there is no ability to create custom routes....If anyone discovers a way to create custom routes with the 2018 let me know.... I always use custom routes for cross country trips...

Look on their facebook page it shows how to do that. It was either facebook or their website

[Marvin2488485]

I not a fan of BRP connect, I don't understand why BRP didn't use Apple Car Play or Android Play, look at the new 2018 Honda Gold Wing. Time will tell but I don't think they made the right choice.

[ahh-cool]

It is what it is

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I not a fan of BRP connect, I don't understand why BRP didn't use Apple Car Play or Android Play, look at the new 2018 Honda Gold Wing. Time will tell but I don't think they made the right choice.
With GW your choice is iPhone, or nothing. Android is not supported. Are you sure you would want to have BRP use Android Auto given Google's history of making revisions and updates? Rumors are Google may drop Android development. BRP Connect is the Spyder version of Bosch's mySpin auto connect system. When car brands like Toyota and Lexus don't use Android Auto you really need to wonder. And then consider the fact that 80% of the world's car makers are supporting MirrorLink to replace both Apple Car Play & Android Auto. Bosch has been working hand in hand with BRP since the inception of the Spyder. It only make sense they would cooperate on the smartphone connectivity side of things, especially since a version of mySpin has been modified by Bosch specifically for motorcycle use. Other than for GW Car Play and Android Auto have not been tweaked for motorcycle use.

[Flamewinger]

My understanding is Genius Maps is only for point to point navigation, there is no ability to create custom routes....If anyone discovers a way to create custom routes with the 2018 let me know.... I always use custom routes for cross country trips...


What I found is you pick a destination and navigate to it. Click OK then, at the bottom, click on the two lines icon that looks like a highway (2nd from the right). Then swipe up and save the route. Then end it and do a search and find the new route. (give it a specific name if you want) As it opens and you see the complete route you can zoom in to the road or POI you want and touch/hold and you'll see a 3rd point. It asks to add destination and you click OK. I'm not sure how many you can make, I think as many as you want. Then click the highway symbol and swipe up then click the "Route Stops". It's on this list that you can touch/hold each numbered point and move them up/down to rearrange them. Then click the top left arrow then the "Drive". You can then get going or swipe up and save the route again with the new points. One of the things I noticed is if you pick a point on a frontage road and you are on a highway, Genius maps will want you to take an exit and pass the point to eliminate it. So make sure you zoom in to get the point on the road or at the spot you want.

I did a video that shows a 3 point route. You don't hav to end it but I did for the hell of it.

https://youtu.be/2zbUgfL-2bY

[Marvin2488485]

Looks like a pain to complete, but if thats all you have then its better than nothing.

Ride safe!!

[Bob Denman]

When I downloaded the BRP Connect app: Google Maps showed up in it... :dontknow:

[biker01red]

What I found is you pick a destination and navigate to it. Click OK then, at the bottom, click on the two lines icon that looks like a highway (2nd from the right). Then swipe up and save the route. Then end it and do a search and find the new route. (give it a specific name if you want) As it opens and you see the complete route you can zoom in to the road or POI you want and touch/hold and you'll see a 3rd point. It asks to add destination and you click OK. I'm not sure how many you can make, I think as many as you want. Then click the highway symbol and swipe up then click the "Route Stops". It's on this list that you can touch/hold each numbered point and move them up/down to rearrange them. Then click the top left arrow then the "Drive". You can then get going or swipe up and save the route again with the new points. One of the things I noticed is if you pick a point on a frontage road and you are on a highway, Genius maps will want you to take an exit and pass the point to eliminate it. So make sure you zoom in to get the point on the road or at the spot you want.

I did a video that shows a 3 point route. You don't hav to end it but I did for the hell of it.

https://youtu.be/2zbUgfL-2bY

Thanks for the info.....sounds complicated....not exactly user friendly ......
Have you tried using Rever for custom routes ??? If not, give it a try... I find it is easy to use and most importantly it works !!! Follows my custom routes much better then Basecamp..... I guess it all depends on what software you feel comfortable with....

[Flamewinger]

I will probably start using Rever when it’s available in BRP connect. I have it and I’ve signed up for a few challenges. Hopefully won’t be long.

[biker01red]

I will probably start using Rever when it’s available in BRP connect. I have it and I’ve signed up for a few challenges. Hopefully won’t be long.

When Rever is available on BRP Connect, I think you will enjoy using it.... I will be checking the BRP Connect website for available apps, watching for it to happen......

[ottawa-rider]

We should suggest Apps that we think would be a nice addition to BRP Connect.

I'll start by suggesting GasBuddy (https://gasbuddy.com/)or some other similar app that lets you find the cheapest gas in the area that you find yourself in at the time.

[ahh-cool]

When I downloaded the BRP Connect app: Google Maps showed up in it... :dontknow:

Same with me. When you connect it to the bike the route is not there

[Bob Denman]

We should suggest Apps that we think would be a nice addition to BRP Connect.

I'll start by suggesting GasBuddy (https://gasbuddy.com/)or some other similar app that lets you find the cheapest gas in the area that you find yourself in at the time.

How about:
Sirius XM
Fobo
The Weather Channel

[Mad Mac]

We just bought a new Chev. Colorado and sounds like the BRP Connect is similar to OnStar and Android CarPlay, where they give you turn by turn directions and it is read out on the display thru your phone, so you have to rely on a OnStar agent to give you the correct route, all for $40.00 a month!! So we canx. that service because it was more hassle than it's worth and expensive. We just use our Garmin Zumo and I can plot my entire cross-country trip and can save the route and way points for future reference. Even the Garmin 660 on the '14 Spyders would appear to be more user-friendly then the new technology of today. We also use wired headsets and have no issues with "connectivity" and my phone Bluetooths thru my GPS with simple pairing. Hope all of you guys get all the teething issues worked out Good Luck!! Mad Mac:doorag:

[Flamewinger]

Same with me. When you connect it to the bike the route is not there

Sounds like you need to get Genius Maps app which will enable you to download the map data for your country. In Genius Maps you can create routes and save POIs to use when riding. The yellow Maps is the Google or Apple Maps to help you know where you are.

[Flamewinger]

We just bought a new Chev. Colorado and sounds like the BRP Connect is similar to OnStar and Android CarPlay, where they give you turn by turn directions and it is read out on the display thru your phone, so you have to rely on a OnStar agent to give you the correct route, all for $40.00 a month!! So we canx. that service because it was more hassle than it's worth and expensive. We just use our Garmin Zumo and I can plot my entire cross-country trip and can save the route and way points for future reference. Even the Garmin 660 on the '14 Spyders would appear to be more user-friendly then the new technology of today. We also use wired headsets and have no issues with "connectivity" and my phone Bluetooths thru my GPS with simple pairing. Hope all of you guys get all the teething issues worked out Good Luck!! Mad Mac:doorag:

Not the same as Onstar. There is an initial fee but then you use it like a Garmin. Either in the app on the phone or on the bike, you can set up a route and it will give you directions. You might try downloading Genius Maps to find out how it works.

[Flamewinger]

How about:
Sirius XM
Fobo
The Weather Channel

Rever and FOBO are “coming soon”. It already has Accuweather and ya, I’d like SiriusXM or iHeart Radio.

[Flamewinger]

The real problem with any app that requires continuous data to function is not the cost, but a great many of the best motorcycle routes are not interstate and do not have cell phone data available. Any GPS that cannot navigate on its own without a data connection is useless on a motorcycle.

Yes its true that genius maps cannot plan routes. Only point to point directions. As is, the BRP connect system is not a functional GPS for motorcycle touring. They have some development to do. If you purchase an 2018, suggest planning on using a Garmin for a while.


You our can create multiple point routes in Genius Maps. Took me a while to figure it out. I made a video.

https://youtu.be/2zbUgfL-2bY

[ahh-cool]

Thank you for figuring this out

[ahh-cool]

Now that I've paid almost $100 to get the Map working, it still doesn't work right. When using Genius maps you lose the radio when you hit the button again to get back to the radio the R/H side of the dashboard freezes.
The other apps still don't work

BRP I know you guys lurk on here, you need to figure this out and let us know how to get it working right

[Flamewinger]

Now that I've paid almost $100 to get the Map working, it still doesn't work right. When using Genius maps you lose the radio when you hit the button again to get back to the radio the R/H side of the dashboard freezes.
The other apps still don't work

BRP I know you guys lurk on here, you need to figure this out and let us know how to get it working right

I’m hoping the software update fixes this. What I’m doing is I open the maps and start my route then touch the speaker and mute the sound. Then open BRP Connect and plug into bike. Turn bike on and get the music playing then switch to maps and it will show you where to go with no spoken directions. The music will keep playing. Once the update is done I hope this is fixed. I hope a few other glitches are fixed also, like if you have iTunes open when you plug it in then turn bike on you will see it trying to load BRP Connect but wont until you respond to the pop up on the phone that is asking you to allow the bike to have access to BRP Connect. So I have to make sure BRP Connect is open when I plug in.

[ahh-cool]

When I plug my phone in it locks and the screen goes dark

[Peter Aawen]

When I plug my phone in it locks and the screen goes dark

I just gotta get clear on this.... what locks & goes dark - the phone or the dash screen?? :dontknow:

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

When I plug my phone in it locks and the screen goes dark
That's the way it's set up. In the video of BRP Connect they show and mention how when you have connected the phone via BT, and then plug in the USB, which is for charging only, the phone itself is disabled as far as using it directly.

[ahh-cool]

I just gotta get clear on this.... what locks & goes dark - the phone or the dash screen?? :dontknow:

Phone

[campermac]

All I know is I saw a 2018 RTL at the Great American Outdoor show in Harrisburg PA last weekend and I can tell you this that I got more excited about the OEM Passenger Arm Rests than I did about the BRP Connect. A dealer buddy of mine was at the show booth and gave me the key and allowed me to fumble thru it and I mean fumble thru it. I am pretty tech savvy and it confused the crap out of me.

Not enough changes from the 2015 that I have to the 2018, plus the fact that BRP took away the switch to adjust the air ride and made it fully automatic really worries me and makes it yet another sensor you have to worry about going bad.

Just my opinion, you make the decision for your self.

[ahh-cool]

I'm taking it in tomorrow to see if there is an update for the software. One of the problems I'm having is I can feel the bike going into ECO mode when the phone is connected

[Flamewinger]

I'm taking it in tomorrow to see if there is an update for the software. One of the problems I'm having is I can feel the bike going into ECO mode when the phone is connected

This is my first RT. How do you know its going into ECO mode? Haven't tried it yet. My dealer has told me they have the "tools" but have yet to be able to do the update. They want to test it on a demo before doing the customers bikes. I've been bugging them to get it done soon.

[ahh-cool]

When you put it into ECO mode it feels like you're riding on 2 cylinders.
You should try it for a minute and then wounder why they ever wasted the real estate on the handlebar.

[Ben Burped]

Is all this necessary for BRP to appeal to the flat phone crowd ? As I read what all is necessary to use cell phone tower based "GPS", I really do wonder if all this makes you safer or just another distracted driver. I would love to see a video of trying to use a flat phone and ride a Spyder. I have to pull off the road to put a new destination in my 660 before I press "Go".

[Flamewinger]

Is all this necessary for BRP to appeal to the flat phone crowd ? As I read what all is necessary to use cell phone tower based "GPS", I really do wonder if all this makes you safer or just another distracted driver. I would love to see a video of trying to use a flat phone and ride a Spyder. I have to pull off the road to put a new destination in my 660 before I press "Go".

I remember I could end a route on my 660. I could also work it to start a route all while riding. With the new system the “flat phone” AKA a smartphone, is plugged in and not accessible as the screen locks. You can navigate to features and find destinations and start it all by using the joystick on the handlebar. I’ve noticed some dash features not accessible while moving but I’ve had to start a trip while leaving my neighborhood and it worked. The dash is extremely easy to see in any light. I’ll have to see if I can do a video.

[modagwood]

Looks like a pain to complete, but if thats all you have then its better than nothing.

Ride safe!!
What is wrong with good old Paper Maps? Set down pick your route,get on the road, go where you want, stop where and when you want, And forget about all of the tech things.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Is all this necessary for BRP to appeal to the flat phone crowd ? As I read what all is necessary to use cell phone tower based "GPS", I really do wonder if all this makes you safer or just another distracted driver. I would love to see a video of trying to use a flat phone and ride a Spyder. I have to pull off the road to put a new destination in my 660 before I press "Go".
A GPS app on a flat phone uses satellite GPS data just like your 660 does. Cell tower location service is a fall back if GPS signal isn't available, which is almost never, or to provide location services to all those big brothers watching you.

[Marvin2488485]

With GW your choice is iPhone, or nothing. Android is not supported. Are you sure you would want to have BRP use Android Auto given Google's history of making revisions and updates? Rumors are Google may drop Android development. BRP Connect is the Spyder version of Bosch's mySpin auto connect system. When car brands like Toyota and Lexus don't use Android Auto you really need to wonder. And then consider the fact that 80% of the world's car makers are supporting MirrorLink to replace both Apple Car Play & Android Auto. Bosch has been working hand in hand with BRP since the inception of the Spyder. It only make sense they would cooperate on the smartphone connectivity side of things, especially since a version of mySpin has been modified by Bosch specifically for motorcycle use. Other than for GW Car Play and Android Auto have not been tweaked for motorcycle use.


Take a look at some of the later posts, looks like BRP didn't do its homework, maybe they need to go talk to Bosch and fix their problems, they sell you a 30 thousand plus bike and the new display system is half bake.

Ride safe!!

[biker01red]

Rever and FOBO are “coming soon”. It already has Accuweather and ya, I’d like SiriusXM or iHeart Radio.

When you find that Rever is active and working, let me know ...... When I learn that it is active, I will do the same...

[jcthorne]

What is wrong with good old Paper Maps? Set down pick your route,get on the road, go where you want, stop where and when you want, And forget about all of the tech things.

A paper map does not give you directions as you approach your turns and I cannot read a paper map while in traffic or riding. I really feel the GPS is a major advancement, just not sold yet on BRP's reinvention of the wheel.

[Mad Mac]

In reading these posts, it does sound like BRP d/n do it's homework. I have to admit, that using the 660, I can pick my routes, waypoints, gas stations, and hotels, etc. while riding without much issue. AAAAAnd if I have to use a paper map, I usually have to stop and take a break at some point(leak, smoke, or just stretch my legs), the perfect time to take a look at a map!! Hope you guys and girls get them figured out soon, because riding season will be here very soon!! Mad Mac:thumbup:

[ahh-cool]

What is wrong with good old Paper Maps? Set down pick your route,get on the road, go where you want, stop where and when you want, And forget about all of the tech things.

Paper maps? I knew that computer thing was just a fad. I haven't used a paper map in over 20 or 30 years

[ahh-cool]

A GPS app on a flat phone uses satellite GPS data just like your 660 does. Cell tower location service is a fall back if GPS signal isn't available, which is almost never, or to provide location services to all those big brothers watching you.

I'm here to tell you that we just did a 9,000 mile trip and I can't believe how many places we were in that had no cell service or internet. I'm not talking about being out in the sticks.
We're getting ready to go to Alaska in a couple of months and there is a lot of areas between here and there that don't have cell or internet.
Seems when you don't have cell service the GPS sometimes doesn't work either.

[ahh-cool]

I miss my shelf. with the old dashboard I could lay my phone up there and it would not fall off. Now there is no place to lay it.
The good thing about the dash is, you can see it in direct light. Something I could not do with my GPS

[Bob Denman]

Stefan,
This whole BRP connect thing is just a big change, and nothing more... :shocked:
If some fool in Canada thought it up: it must be possible for some fools in the USA to figure it all out! :thumbup:

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I'm here to tell you that we just did a 9,000 mile trip and I can't believe how many places we were in that had no cell service or internet. I'm not talking about being out in the sticks.
We're getting ready to go to Alaska in a couple of months and there is a lot of areas between here and there that don't have cell or internet.
Seems when you don't have cell service the GPS sometimes doesn't work either.
It's been awhile since I looked at the settings but I think on my Android there is an option under locations to use GPS only. Check that out.

[Cruzr Joe]

One of the things that we have been asking for .................... MPG on the fly is now a feature in BRP Connect, you can see how your mileage improves or decreases while you are riding depending on gear and speed. Cool.


Cruzr Joe

[Flamewinger]

All I see when I switch to BRP Connect is music, Genius Maps and Accuweather. When I switch out of BRP Connect I get the main dash where I can see and switch to radio, set up the Bluetooth, check bike stats etc. is there a new app in BRP Connect that shows mileage and fuel consumption?

also, all smartphones have three antennas, cell, WiFi and GPS. So as long as you have built in map data you can use GPS. Google maps and Waze require cell or WiFi.

[Marvin2488485]

Some info I just heard about Genius maps, there is a Genius Maps Pro that cost 40.00 and traffic both of these or in app purchases

Ride safe!!

[Rob Rodriguez]

All I see when I switch to BRP Connect is music, Genius Maps and Accuweather. When I switch out of BRP Connect I get the main dash where I can see and switch to radio, set up the Bluetooth, check bike stats etc. is there a new app in BRP Connect that shows mileage and fuel consumption?

also, all smartphones have three antennas, cell, WiFi and GPS. So as long as you have built in map data you can use GPS. Google maps and Waze require cell or WiFi.

Google maps now lets you download ans store maps for 30 days.

[ahh-cool]

Stefan,
This whole BRP connect thing is just a big change, and nothing more... :shocked:
If some fool in Canada thought it up: it must be possible for some fools in the USA to figure it all out! :thumbup:
Bob, absolutely. I took it in to the shop today, they said there is a service bulletin for the software.
They said they had to order some parts and could not upgrade it

[ahh-cool]

One of the things that we have been asking for .................... MPG on the fly is now a feature in BRP Connect, you can see how your mileage improves or decreases while you are riding depending on gear and speed. Cool.


Cruzr Joe

Where?

[ahh-cool]

I was looking through the stuff in the plastic bag that came with the Spyder and I found a rebate of $90 if we buy the apps

[Bob Denman]

Where?
There's a spot in there for "Trip stuff": it's in there... :thumbup:
I think that it's in with the trip odometers.

[Flamewinger]

Found this. Its a 2018 owner that has some interesting info on how the dash works and a few tips about BRP Connect.

https://youtu.be/Jwz0IEEaI_4

[wolfee]

I also would love to see SiriusXM app added. Just got my 18 F3 and still trying to learn BRP Connect

[Flamewinger]

I also would love to see SiriusXM app added. Just got my 18 F3 and still trying to learn BRP Connect

I bug them weekly and if we all did it they would have to take notice and hopefully produce what we want. .

[Flamewinger]

I noticed yesterday that Rever and FOBO Bike was available on BRP connect. I already have FOBO Bike but when I clicked the app link in the list I was taken to the App Store to download FOBO Tire. It’s for cars and we don’t have the added feature that the car unit does. But when I loaded it on the bike I had to have to phone close so when I selected the new apps I had to hit OK on the phone so it would work. Now when FOBO bike opens on the dash the correct app opens. Kind of confusing but in the long run it works. So when you click on the link download FoboTire and then when you plug it into the bike and select it you will get FOBO bike and then you can remove FOBO tire from the phone. It’s a bit confusing.

[bonabob]

Just purchased a 2018 spyder rt limited. It took a little bit to get used to the brp system, but got it to work well. Most of the buttons are a little stiff on the bike because it is so new, but in time they will be broken in. I use a lot of different gps apps and programs. I still have Navigon which is no longer supported but that works quite well. I had their motorcycle product Cruiser, which I liked because you can create your own routes. Oh well, they are both gone. I installed sygic because we do a lot of routing with no phone or data service available. 4 wheel and motorcyles. Like Navigon, you purchase the maps and download them right to the phone. Sygic was a little tricky because I purchased their app for android and downloaded the Fl and Ga maps. After pruchaseing the Spyder, I thought I would be able to use it, but as it turns out I had to install sygic for cars and purchase the connected maps which ran $69. The connected app allows it to stream live on the BRP screen. I had to do a separate download of the actual FL and Ga maps. The nice feature is that the maps are updated fro free and there is no renewal, it is for life (not my life but the life of sygic like we learned from navigon) Once installed I was able to get the the app to work perfectly on the BRP screen. It is really nice and what I found is that the size of each state map is about 200mb where the genius maps are 500mb for half the country,. I found that the sygic maps are very detailed, especially all of the off roading trips we took, there was a road on the map, no matter how deep in the woods or mountains. i was very impressed and that is why I went with sygic. Having a lot of fun with the Spyder. Taking it up to the Georgia mountains in a couple of weeks.