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mxz600
05-20-2009, 03:22 PM
The more I ride this thing the more I love it. I do have two minor complaints. The Spyder needing a warmup of four to five minutes (the time it takes to get to one bar) every time I take a ride is a pain in the butt. It is just not convenient to jump on the Spyder for a quick trip to town (I live about two miles away). I could be to town and back on the Sportster and the Spyder would just be getting warmed up (not really, but close). At work everybody is long gone and I'm sitting there in the parking lot picking my nose waiting for Spydy to warm up. Oh well, small price for such an awesome machine.
The other complaint is the rear tire valve stem. What the :cus:. What genius came up with this location. Forget about using the cute little pressure gauge that comes with the tool kit. The brake side of the wheel is wide open for easy access, so lets put the valve stem on the belt sprocket side that is so tight it is difficult just removing the cap. Oh well, if these end up being my only gripes that is not bad. :2thumbs:
Well it's time for me to leave work soon, maybe I'll go start the Spyder so it can warm up.

FANG
05-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Glad you are enjoying your :spyder2:. I agree the rear valve stem it a pain in the buttocks.

BajaRon
05-20-2009, 03:31 PM
I don't know.... I never warm mine up. I just get on and go. I take it easy for the first few yards or so and then NAIL IT!

Works for me! :D

Magic Man
05-20-2009, 03:33 PM
The more I ride this thing the more I love it. I do have two minor complaints. The Spyder needing a warmup of four to five minutes (the time it takes to get to one bar) every time I take a ride is a pain in the butt. It is just not convenient to jump on the Spyder for a quick trip to town (I live about two miles away). I could be to town and back on the Sportster and the Spyder would just be getting warmed up (not really, but close). At work everybody is long gone and I'm sitting there in the parking lot picking my nose waiting for Spydy to warm up. Oh well, small price for such an awesome machine.
The other complaint is the rear tire valve stem. What the :cus:. What genius came up with this location. Forget about using the cute little pressure gauge that comes with the tool kit. The brake side of the wheel is wide open for easy access, so lets put the valve stem on the belt sprocket side that is so tight it is difficult just removing the cap. Oh well, if these end up being my only gripes that is not bad. :2thumbs:
Well it's time for me to leave work soon, maybe I'll go start the Spyder so it can warm up.


Your long warm up period in NOT normal.

I can start and ride immediately on both our SM5 and SE5, always have been able to new or broke in. Almost everyone I have seen can too.

Mine might (every now and then) have a vey minor spit back when ice cold but never have I had to wait like you do?

Something's not what it should be here.

This is a mordern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. If it were an old school carb with a choke I could see a longer warm up, but this is not right on a fuel injected 2009 bike.

MM

Bersquack
05-20-2009, 03:33 PM
I don't know.... I never warm mine up. I just get on and go. I take it easy for the first few yards or so and then NAIL IT!

Works for me! :D
:agree:

fastfraser
05-20-2009, 03:34 PM
NEVER WARM UP FOR MORE THAN THE TIME IT TAKES TO PUT ON HELMET AND GLOVES:dontknow:

FANG
05-20-2009, 03:37 PM
NEVER WARM UP FOR MORE THAN THE TIME IT TAKES TO PUT ON HELMET AND GLOVES:dontknow:

:agree: Just take it easy as others have said.

DynamoBT
05-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Compared to a bike with carborator and choke, the warm up time of the Spyder seems insignificant. I stick mine in Neutral as part of the start up routine, depress the emergency brake and start it up. By the time I've got my jacket, gloves and helmet on, the Spyder is warmed up and ready to go.

I'm not fond of the rear tire valve either. But my gripe is setting the various digital features of the instrument cluster. My clock is off. Damn if I can straighten it out!! Small things. My old bikes didn't have clocks. I wear a wrist watch anyway!!

ataDude
05-20-2009, 03:39 PM
The more I ride this thing the more I love it. I do have two minor complaints. The Spyder needing a warmup of four to five minutes (the time it takes to get to one bar) every time I take a ride is a pain in the butt. It is just not convenient to jump on the Spyder for a quick trip to town (I live about two miles away). I could be to town and back on the Sportster and the Spyder would just be getting warmed up (not really, but close). At work everybody is long gone and I'm sitting there in the parking lot picking my nose waiting for Spydy to warm up. Oh well, small price for such an awesome machine.
The other complaint is the rear tire valve stem. What the :cus:. What genius came up with this location. Forget about using the cute little pressure gauge that comes with the tool kit. The brake side of the wheel is wide open for easy access, so lets put the valve stem on the belt sprocket side that is so tight it is difficult just removing the cap. Oh well, if these end up being my only gripes that is not bad. :2thumbs:
Well it's time for me to leave work soon, maybe I'll go start the Spyder so it can warm up.

Long warm up time... read this. That's one of the things the Gear Position Sensor change-out fixed for me. Read the entire thread:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7831
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bjt
05-20-2009, 04:34 PM
I don't know.... I never warm mine up. I just get on and go. I take it easy for the first few yards or so and then NAIL IT!

Works for me! :D


Your long warm up period in NOT normal.

I can start and ride immediately on both our SM5 and SE5, always have been able to new or broke in. Almost everyone I have seen can too.

Mine might (every now and then) have a vey minor spit back when ice cold but never have I had to wait like you do?

Something's not what it should be here.

This is a mordern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. If it were an old school carb with a choke I could see a longer warm up, but this is not right on a fuel injected 2009 bike.

MM


:agree:


:agree: Just take it easy as others have said.


Same here. I'll usually start the Spyder as I'm putting on the gloves, helmet, etc. and then take it easy while first taking off. When its really cold (below 60), I'll get some sputtering on take-off the first mile or two. On 70 + degree days, like today, the Spyder runs good from the second I fire it up.

mxz600
05-21-2009, 06:49 AM
Your long warm up period in NOT normal.

I can start and ride immediately on both our SM5 and SE5, always have been able to new or broke in. Almost everyone I have seen can too.

Mine might (every now and then) have a vey minor spit back when ice cold but never have I had to wait like you do?

Something's not what it should be here.

This is a mordern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. If it were an old school carb with a choke I could see a longer warm up, but this is not right on a fuel injected 2009 bike.

MM

Today I timed my warmup, it took 2 min. 50 sec. to reach one bar. It was 65ºf in my garage. The couple of mornings I timed warmup before, temps were around 30º(when it took at least 4 min., 5 min. might have been a bit exaggerated.) I ride my bikes to work every day unless it's raining, so I ride on some very cold mornings. I never timed a warmup at work after the temps had gone up but it did seem to take forever just waiting to see that first bar pop up.
By the way, this one bar thing came from my dealer. It does not mention it in the manual but the dealer said to let it warm up at least one bar before taking off. It is also documented in Spyder forums that other riders have been told the same thing. I've read some riders warm up to two or three bars. Yes this is a modern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. But the Spyder is one cold blooded machine.

BajaRon
05-21-2009, 07:21 AM
Yes this is a modern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. But the Spyder is one cold blooded machine.

I don't know....Mine runs just fine wide open no matter how many bars (or lack thereof) are showing on the display.

As a matter-of-fact, At full throttle you don't have time to waste looking at the display anyway! :D

NancysToy
05-21-2009, 07:41 AM
Today I timed my warmup, it took 2 min. 50 sec. to reach one bar. It was 65ºf in my garage. The couple of mornings I timed warmup before, temps were around 30º(when it took at least 4 min., 5 min. might have been a bit exaggerated.) I ride my bikes to work every day unless it's raining, so I ride on some very cold mornings. I never timed a warmup at work after the temps had gone up but it did seem to take forever just waiting to see that first bar pop up.
By the way, this one bar thing came from my dealer. It does not mention it in the manual but the dealer said to let it warm up at least one bar before taking off. It is also documented in Spyder forums that other riders have been told the same thing. I've read some riders warm up to two or three bars. Yes this is a modern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. But the Spyder is one cold blooded machine.
That seems about right. I warm up to one bar when I can, too. Helps to start it before you put on your gear. My BMW is much the same, but has the added inconvenience of having to hold the enrichment lever while it warms up. Big pain in the backside, but a necessary evil. The Spyder has no auxiliary enrichment device for cold starting, so a warm up, especially in cold weather, is most helpful.
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

bone crusher
05-21-2009, 08:11 AM
Your long warm up period in NOT normal.

I can start and ride immediately on both our SM5 and SE5, always have been able to new or broke in. Almost everyone I have seen can too.

Mine might (every now and then) have a vey minor spit back when ice cold but never have I had to wait like you do?

Something's not what it should be here.

This is a mordern fuel injected, computer controlled, fuel managment system. If it were an old school carb with a choke I could see a longer warm up, but this is not right on a fuel injected 2009 bike.

MM
:agree: I turn the key, put on my gloves...get on the bike, and go...don't warm up my cars...don't warm up me bike!

baldev
05-21-2009, 09:35 AM
I start bike up give it 15 seconds, put it in first gear, ride about 200 yards to 2nd gear another 300 yards to 3rd and zoooooom. My 3rd Spyder, never need warming up nor that agro. Some backfiring from opened air intake and leo exhaust when cold thats about it.
Look at MM thread read, digest and flow along.

Have fun.

FREDRUTH
05-21-2009, 10:38 AM
I also have no problems when starting...take it easy for first and second gear and it goes..never warmed it up...

Neez
05-21-2009, 12:08 PM
I just use one of those old fashioned sliding stick air guages on the rear tire. Works easily. I haven't had any problems getting the cap off or adding air, but I agree it wasn't well thought out.

DynamoBT
05-21-2009, 12:21 PM
My most accurate tire gauge is digital. I use it on everything. But it has a short neck that makes a nearly 90 degree angle. It's a pain in the neck to check the rear tire pressure with it.

I suffer with it because if I get it placed on the valve just so, I get a much better reading with it than the slider type or an analog gauge.

Neez
05-21-2009, 12:36 PM
My most accurate tire gauge is digital. I use it on everything. But it has a short neck that makes a nearly 90 degree angle. It's a pain in the neck to check the rear tire pressure with it.

I suffer with it because if I get it placed on the valve just so, I get a much better reading with it than the slider type or an analog gauge.
I experimented with the slider, got the same reading 3 times in a row on the rear tire. Then I compared readings on my truck tires and got the same with my slider as I did with my digital gauge. Seems accurate enough for me, and a lot easier to use on the rear tire.