Best method to ship ECU to Monster Fuel in Canada

[Wildrice]

USPS, UPS, FedX---? I'll have over one week of out of town vacation time. What has been everyone's experience--cost--time frame doing the ECU shipment for performance ECU reflash?
Thank you kindly,
Darrell

[trikermutha]

Someone posted how to send think FedEx was the way to go.

[Dennis in Lodi]

Fed Ex ground gets there in 2 days. About $26 with a box. Ask for a brown box that's 13" X 10" X 3" thick. It's under the counter at my Fed-Ex outlet.
What happens starting at 5,000 rpm to red line is going to blow you away. If your not under warranty or don't care, consider the 8,600 rev limit.
I just traded in my Flash 2015 RT for a 2016 F3 limited. When they hooked up the BUDS as part of the inspection process, not a word was said about my bike having been up to 9,100 rpm.


USPS, UPS, FedX---? I'll have over one week of out of town vacation time. What has been everyone's experience--cost--time frame doing the ECU shipment for performance ECU reflash?
Thank you kindly,
Darrell

[Spyd_Piper]

USPS, UPS, FedX---? I'll have over one week of out of town vacation time. What has been everyone's experience--cost--time frame doing the ECU shipment for performance ECU reflash?
Thank you kindly,
Darrell

Method doesn't matter.
USPS has cheapest options with longest times
FedEx and UPS have next day options but at a cost. And they also have a ground option that can be anywhere from 2 days to 5 days.

With all, you can go online to website and estimate cost and time. Or they can tell you at counter.

Pricing varies per state. And how remote you are from major city.

Some people ship next day both ways and have ecu out/done/back in 3 days. Others just send cheapest option and it can take a week (or more) turn around.

[old Timer]

Aftermarket ECU reflashing is somewhat common with both the Harley Davison and Indian motorcycle community.

You can take a box Stock HD motorcycle, as I have done, had the proper tune (program) for my bike done and the results are a much better running motorcycle, better throttle response, smoother power and a good increase in power with better overall drivability.

The engine in the Spyder is set up to meet EPA requirements, not best performance out of the engine. A properly reflashed ECU will meet best overall performance rather than being strangled to meet EPA requirements.

The ability to get your Spyder's ECU reflashed is a home run in the overall ride ability of your Spyder.

I am glad that these guys are offering their service, generating new and improved Maps is no small task by a long shot.

[Dray]

Call monster up and let them instruct you. They have a specific way to get
your ecu shipped without the border patrols getting involved.

Dray :yes::yes::yes::yes:

[Wildrice]

Call monster up and let them instruct you. They have a specific way to get
your ecu shipped without the border patrols getting involved.

Dray :yes::yes::yes::yes:

Done that--it all varies--some freight is easier to clear customs--some faster-some slower-$$ costs--choices are endless--just wanted experience on the shipment.

[Bob Denman]

Why not just ride your bike to up to them, and have them make some "magic happen", while you wait?

You've got the week off! :thumbup:

[Spyd_Piper]

Border is no issue at all. Either shipping method. Stuff comes back and forth no problem.

The only reason its mentioned is because "our Canadian" government likes to charge 13% tax on anything coming across border.
So by specifying "ecu repair" and $1 value, that tax charge is rightfully avoided.

On items due for tax here, FedEx and UPS charge $75 fee to charge you 13% tax. Whereas Canada Post / US Post only charge $8 fee.
Meaning, if a mistake is made for import description and value, the fees through USPS are way lower than UPS or FedEx.

Follow shipping instructions abput value and item description and ALL shipping vendors work great. Even DHL etc.

[Sweetwater]

I had my 2016 f3s done by monster..... it was well worth it. More power everywhere but oddly I noticed it most in neutral! Just MUCH more crisp and quicker revving. I can hear the intake honking and it just pulls better. Actually kinda hard getting used to being smooth off the line after getting accostumed to the old power delivery. I’m a happy camper

[hypurone]

I had my 2016 f3s done by monster..... it was well worth it. More power everywhere but oddly I noticed it most in neutral! Just MUCH more crisp and quicker revving. I can hear the intake honking and it just pulls better. Actually kinda hard getting used to being smooth off the line after getting accostumed to the old power delivery. I’m a happy camper
Interesting, my F3-S was a dismal failure as well as Dennis's F3T.... When did you have yours flashed exactly? We were both early adopters, Dennis well before me. His RT was spectacular but when he traded in for the F3T it was awful. I am still waiting to hear from Steve as to when he feels he has sorted out the issues and a troublesome P0172 code that Dennis keeps getting, before I send mine back for another attempt. :banghead:

[one2doo]

Mine popped a code when I first got it done. Sent it back in September for a fix and is fine now.

[Sweetwater]

I had the reflash done 2 weeks ago. It’s not a rocket, but like I said... it’s a pretty impressive difference. So far.. no codes... but u have me worried!

[hypurone]

I had the reflash done 2 weeks ago. It’s not a rocket, but like I said... it’s a pretty impressive difference. So far.. no codes... but u have me worried!

What model do you have? Just so I can keep track of who has what and their results.....

[Sweetwater]

I have the f3s semi auto. Cat delete (with small muffler welded in) and voodoo exhaust

[hypurone]

I had the reflash done 2 weeks ago. It’s not a rocket, but like I said... it’s a pretty impressive difference. So far.. no codes... but u have me worried!

Well, after all the work put in by Dennis in Lodi, I would hope that Steve has it sorted out by now!


I have the f3s semi auto. Cat delete (with small muffler welded in) and voodoo exhaust

Thanks, sounds like he has made good progress then. I am gonna wait to send mine back until he has developed and dyno'ed a specific 89tooth tune from a Daytona he has use of now. He is supposedly doing this in the spring of this year, so we are getting close!

[Sweetwater]

Will I need to send it back? What’ll the difference be??

[hypurone]

Will I need to send it back? What’ll the difference be?? My understanding is he will work on a more specific 89 tooth flash and incorporate any new features that can be made available. Like top speed limiter removal and some other items I don't recall from the myriad of emails exchanged with him.

For any of these new features or to have the latest and greatest tune you would have to send it back. But he has 2 locations in the US now for faster service....

[Sweetwater]

I wish he said something, I woulda waited. I sent mine to Canada. How will we know it’s available? Do you know where in the US?

[hypurone]

I wish he said something, I woulda waited. I sent mine to Canada. How will we know it’s available? Do you know where in the US?

I looked in my emails and he said there is one in Louisiana and North Carolina but I don't have the addresses. Just call him and get them and give him a heads up that you are sending it back to make sure that whatever place you send it knows it is for a "re-program" and is supposed to be no cost.....

[Sweetwater]

Thank you so much... will do in the spring. So far... about 500 miles on the flash and I love it.

[hypurone]

Thank you so much... will do in the spring. So far... about 500 miles on the flash and I love it. What exactly are you loving about it? Has the speed limiter been removed? Do you no longer feel it starting to shut down around 100-105 (some were feeling it as early as 96 on their F3, me included, which is the RT shutdown window)? Mine has always been a rocket up to about 100 but now it is more pronounced AFTER the flash! Do you feel yours accelerates better/pulls harder etc throughout the range?

Just curious....

[Sweetwater]

I’m mostly... oddly enough, feeling improved low end and throttle response. It pulls better everywhere, but not really past 105.... it still creeps up to 119 or so. But on the way there it pulls harder and I can hear the intake sucking air now. On the bottom end it’s hard not to break the tire loose... it used to be a dog there. I hope the next phase improves the limiter. I am on Long Island and will be at americade if you want to take it for a spin to compare.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I’m mostly... oddly enough, feeling improved low end and throttle response. It pulls better everywhere, but not really past 105.... it still creeps up to 119 or so. But on the way there it pulls harder and I can hear the intake sucking air now. On the bottom end it’s hard not to break the tire loose... it used to be a dog there. I hope the next phase improves the limiter. I am on Long Island and will be at americade if you want to take it for a spin to compare.
I hope you have an Auto tire on your Spyder and if you do ....at 17-18 psi in the rear tire you will have a lot more traction ........... try it - you'll love it .. :dg2:...... Mike :2excited:

[Sweetwater]

The rear tire is original with 12,000 miles on it. Still on a quest for a slightly wider car tire that'll fit.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

The rear tire is original with 12,000 miles on it. Still on a quest for a slightly wider car tire that'll fit. The Kenda un-fortunately must have 28 or so psi for it to be stable ...... As far as the want / need for a wider tire. In real world testing , a Hayabusa would benefit from it .....but not your Spyder ...... But if your really Hot for a wider tire it's going to cost you Big Bucks ..... You will need the following custom parts, a wider swing arm, a wider wheel and all the associated parts , plus the chain drive conversion and of course the Wider tire. $ 3000.00 or should get that for you ....... jmho ..... Mike :thumbup:

[Sweetwater]

I don’t think that’s in the cards. I was just looking to step up one width or so when replacing, provided there is clearance.

[hypurone]

The rear tire is original with 12,000 miles on it. Still on a quest for a slightly wider car tire that'll fit.

A word of caution about that. If you widen the tire to something like a 235 or 245. the cross section width increases and you will be "squeezing" it on to the rim more. This pulls the sidewalls inward and bows the center of the tire upward/outward in the middle, which can actually REDUCE traction! Something with a grippier compound would be a better choice and is what I am trying to find for my next change. The OE tire is an H rated and I am running the Kuhmo Ecsta AST which is also H rated. Was able to overcome both tires traction limits easily even before the flash. Something in a V or Z or higher would be built with grippier compounds to handle higher speed operation. But the choices are slim to none. You can find V and Z rated tires in a 215/60-15 which is actually narrower but might be worth the trade-off for higher grip....

I am running my tire at 16 right now and am prob gonna drop it to 15 or 14 and test it.

[papasmurf1958]

I wish he said something, I woulda waited. I sent mine to Canada. How will we know it’s available? Do you know where in the US?
Sending mine here next week

1725D N Hearne Ave
Shreveport, LA 71107

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

A word of caution about that. If you widen the tire to something like a 235 or 245. the cross section width increases and you will be "squeezing" it on to the rim more. This pulls the sidewalls inward and bows the center of the tire upward/outward in the middle, which can actually REDUCE traction! Something with a grippier compound would be a better choice and is what I am trying to find for my next change. The OE tire is an H rated and I am running the Kuhmo Ecsta AST which is also H rated. Was able to overcome both tires traction limits easily even before the flash. Something in a V or Z or higher would be built with grippier compounds to handle higher speed operation. But the choices are slim to none. You can find V and Z rated tires in a 215/60-15 which is actually narrower but might be worth the trade-off for higher grip....

I am running my tire at 16 right now and am prob gonna drop it to 15 or 14 and test it.
:agree: .... and you need to consider if there is enough room because of the inside width of the Swing-arm ....... I think a wider tire might rub .......... and your only benefit from a wider tire is going to be " LOOKS " ... The Spyder is not a Hayabusa , which might benefit from a wider tire( but not much either ) ......... Mike :thumbup:

[Thrashb12]

I just got my F3s last August and am contemplating pipe and ecu flash. I have no idea what to expect as my bike doesnt seem to be sluggish at all from a stop as many have complained here. I have trouble NOT spinning the tire if I do more than casual acceleration. Bike is a 2015 leftover from the dealers floor, maybe a few test rides as it had 75 miles on it but no changes as far as I know. Is there a fuel curve difference with the manual transmission. When I see problems people are having with the reflash I think I should wait, but more power and better driveability is always a plus. Any comments appreciated.

[AllanSpyder]

I just got my F3s last August and am contemplating pipe and ecu flash. I have no idea what to expect as my bike doesnt seem to be sluggish at all from a stop as many have complained here. I have trouble NOT spinning the tire if I do more than casual acceleration. Bike is a 2015 leftover from the dealers floor, maybe a few test rides as it had 75 miles on it but no changes as far as I know. Is there a fuel curve difference with the manual transmission. When I see problems people are having with the reflash I think I should wait, but more power and better driveability is always a plus. Any comments appreciated.

I have also 2015 F3 (SM6) and 79T rear sprocket. Before the flash, I had also good off the line acceleration and solid pull in the lower rpm range. I was not satisfied with the bike`s performance in the higher rpm range where my Spyder felt lazy. After the flash, it has awesome acceleration from 5000-8600 rpm and also increases in lower range. It is really fun to ride it now. The throttle response is much better and for me, it worked really well. That is my experience with the flash.

Allan

[hypurone]

I just got my F3s last August and am contemplating pipe and ecu flash. I have no idea what to expect as my bike doesnt seem to be sluggish at all from a stop as many have complained here. I have trouble NOT spinning the tire if I do more than casual acceleration. Bike is a 2015 leftover from the dealers floor, maybe a few test rides as it had 75 miles on it but no changes as far as I know. Is there a fuel curve difference with the manual transmission. When I see problems people are having with the reflash I think I should wait, but more power and better driveability is always a plus. Any comments appreciated.

Mine is exactly the same as you describe. I was looking to the flash to fix how it dropped off at higher vehicle speeds and in 6th gear pretty much anytime....


I have also 2015 F3 (SM6) and 79T rear sprocket. Before the flash, I had also good off the line acceleration and solid pull in the lower rpm range. I was not satisfied with the bike`s performance in the higher rpm range where my Spyder felt lazy. After the flash, it has awesome acceleration from 5000-8600 rpm and also increases in lower range. It is really fun to ride it now. The throttle response is much better and for me, it worked really well. That is my experience with the flash.

Allan

This was what I was after when I started this... Just sent mine back again to attempt to get what I was supposed to get! Steve has supposedly reworked everything with the 89t setup in mind. We'll see in a few days... The difference here is that you have a 79t sprocket and I have the 89t. In the beginning the flash was developed from data supplied by Dennis on his RT with the 79t and the results were stellar. Not so much when that flash was then applied to an 89t ryde! Which is where I am right now....

[AllanSpyder]

This was what I was after when I started this... Just sent mine back again to attempt to get what I was supposed to get! Steve has supposedly reworked everything with the 89t setup in mind. We'll see in a few days... The difference here is that you have a 79t sprocket and I have the 89t. In the beginning the flash was developed from data supplied by Dennis on his RT with the 79t and the results were stellar. Not so much when that flash was then applied to an 89t ryde! Which is where I am right now....

I hope that the new 89t flash setup will give better results and performance for your F3.

Allan

[z_light11]

So it seems the guys from North America might want to wait until the re-flash tune is worked with a little more to be better developed for our 89 tooth rear sprockets.

[hypurone]

So it seems the guys from North America might want to wait until the re-flash tune is worked with a little more to be better developed for our 89 tooth rear sprockets.

Well, I was an early adopter and that seems to have bitten me. There are a few others that have done it way more recently than I and have reported good results. Steve swears to me that he has it sorted out, and can even modify how much I have to twist my wrist so I can get to the fun stuff sooner! He said that there will be even more made available later on when he starts tuning with a donor F3 Daytona with an 89t. Supposedly going to be able to crack open the speed limiter and will be building the flash using a dyno/EGA setup!

Remember, you can do the flash anytime AND then if you want you can send it back for FREE updates. Which is what I am doing now as I don't want to wait any longer (he won't be doing the Daytona tuning until April/May) and I ride pretty much year round here. So I figured I would do it while I'm laid up from surgery....

[papasmurf1958]

Finally got the Spyder back together. Gassed it up with 91 octane non ethanol fuel. Very responsive especially in high higher rpms. 0-100 mph very smooth without flat spots above 4000 rpm. Less popping during deceleration. Power fades out above 7000 rpm in 6th. It’s hitting a little north of 110mph at that point. I won’t see that too often unless I’m running away from Tornadoes, lol! Overall I’m impressed with the present tuning. Steve said he is working on the upper rpm power issue and speed limiter and should have something shortly.
For inquiring minds I’m running a K&N air filter, primary muffler bypass without a baffle and Akropovic Sinister silencer.

[hypurone]

For anyone following my journey with the Monster Fuel Flash I have mentioned here and other places on the forum, I would like to report that I have just completed a 160 mile thrashing of my recently re-flashed ECU from Steve. It is finally the way it should have been from the start of this endeavor. It runs like a machine possessed! I had him tweak the throttle control settings and now I don't have to twist as far to get thru the range to WOT. 'Tis a thing of beauty! The throttle feels like it used to on my motorcycles. Crisp, reduced rotation needed and much more sensitive/responsive. This flash works very well!

Now it's all shenanigans all the time! :yes:

For those on the fence about the flash this should remove any doubts I hope....

[AllanSpyder]

I am glad to hear that your ECU re-flash was finally successful. Did you also raised the rev limiter to 8600 rpm or left it to 8100?

Enjoy your new alive Spyder! I miss the shenanigans with my mean machine, but only 4 weeks to go and then I am back on the road :clap:

Allan



For anyone following my journey with the Monster Fuel Flash I have mentioned here and other places on the forum, I would like to report that I have just completed a 160 mile thrashing of my recently re-flashed ECU from Steve. It is finally the way it should have been from the start of this endeavor. It runs like a machine possessed! I had him tweak the throttle control settings and now I don't have to twist as far to get thru the range to WOT. 'Tis a thing of beauty! The throttle feels like it used to on my motorcycles. Crisp, reduced rotation needed and much more sensitive/responsive. This flash works very well!

Now it's all shenanigans all the time! :yes:

For those on the fence about the flash this should remove any doubts I hope....

[Dray]

May want to google Wick-It.com here in the states. They are the Monster Fuel reps here in the states.

Dray:yes::yes::yes::yes:

[hypurone]

I am glad to hear that your ECU re-flash was finally successful. Did you also raised the rev limiter to 8600 rpm or left it to 8100?

Enjoy your new alive Spyder! I miss the shenanigans with my mean machine, but only 4 weeks to go and then I am back on the road :clap:

Allan

Ya know, I don't even remember at this point. I had been ironing out the details of the throttle and other specifics with him that it completely slipped my mind. But it is a moot point at this stage since it pulls the way it does! I don't see the need for the additional 500 rpm to be honest! :bowdown:

[NVERLAST1]

Do you know where in NC? I live in NC......



I looked in my emails and he said there is one in Louisiana and North Carolina but I don't have the addresses. Just call him and get them and give him a heads up that you are sending it back to make sure that whatever place you send it knows it is for a "re-program" and is supposed to be no cost.....

[hypurone]

Do you know where in NC? I live in NC...... I found an old email where he stated New Bern... but no address was given or the company name... I only have complete info for Louisiana....

[malibu_dan]

For those of us Google challenged >>>

https://wick-itperformance.com/

[AY4B]

The site has 3 options, Can Am gen 1, Can Am gen 2, and Can Am Spyder, What is the difference?
https://wick-itperformance.com/shop?olsPage=t%2Fmonster-fuel-injection

[DGoebel]

The site has 3 options, Can Am gen 1, Can Am gen 2, and Can Am Spyder, What is the difference?
https://wick-itperformance.com/shop?olsPage=t%2Fmonster-fuel-injection

We would only use the Spyder option, the others are for other Can-Am products (side bys, etc)
If you click on the Spyder graphic placeholder you'll see what they're modding.

[stmike 1800]

For anyone following my journey with the Monster Fuel Flash I have mentioned here and other places on the forum, I would like to report that I have just completed a 160 mile thrashing of my recently re-flashed ECU from Steve. It is finally the way it should have been from the start of this endeavor. It runs like a machine possessed! I had him tweak the throttle control settings and now I don't have to twist as far to get thru the range to WOT. 'Tis a thing of beauty! The throttle feels like it used to on my motorcycles. Crisp, reduced rotation needed and much more sensitive/responsive. This flash works very well!

Now it's all shenanigans all the time! :yes:

For those on the fence about the flash this should remove any doubts I hope....

Mine is a 2018 RTL ,you say tweak the throttle ,now you do not have to twist as far .Can the dealer do this ,as of now you need to grab the throttle twice to get to the end .