Heads up from Canada

[punji]

Stayed in the Sandman Hotel across the river from Montreal last night. This morning a hotel employee tells me that he interrupted what he believed to be the theft of my new F3. He said six "muscle bound" young guys had surrounded the bike. Behind them was a pickup with a long trailer. His impression was that they were about to pick up the F3 and load it up. They saw him watching and stopped what they were doing. I'll refrain from saying anything about the freedom of thieves in a gun-free zone.

Tonight the F3 and the RT Limited are locked up in secure underground storage in a Sherbrooke hotel.

Brand new F3 ran flawlessly from western NC. So did Margie's 2015 RT Limited. Can't say the same for the new 3K trailer from USA Trailers in Greenville SC. Nothing but trouble the entire ride. Potential buyers beware!

See ya'll tomorrow.

Punji

[ARtraveler]

Stayed in the Sandman Hotel across the river from Montreal last night. This morning a hotel employee tells me that he interrupted what he believed to be the theft of my new F3. He said six "muscle bound" young guys had surrounded the bike. Behind them was a pickup with a long trailer. His impression was that they were about to pick up the F3 and load it up. They saw him watching and stopped what they were doing. I'll refrain from saying anything about the freedom of thieves in a gun-free zone.

Tonight the F3 and the RT Limited are locked up in secure underground storage in a Sherbrooke hotel.

Brand new F3 ran flawlessly from western NC. So did Margie's 2015 RT Limited. Can't say the same for the new 3K trailer from USA Trailers in Greenville SC. Nothing but trouble the entire ride. Potential buyers beware!

See ya'll tomorrow.

Punji

Now that's a good heads up. Sounds like they may be cruising around the various hotels to snarf a :ani29: or two. Glad their try on yours was a fail. :yes:

[safecracker]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Deanna777]

Thanks for the heads up.

I hope the hotels/motels have security camera's in there parking lots. Also, I hope that the local police do extra patrols thru the parking lots.

I am glad that yours are safe.
Deanna

[BoilerAnimal]

I had a buddy who's Fat Boy was stolen at H-D's 100th? anniversary in Milwaukee back in the nineties. He said several were stolen by backing a tow truck up to them, picking them up and driving off. Very quick.........and profitable!

[nealperkins]

What kind(s) of trouble did you have with the trailer?

[Chupaca]

Deanna
:agree: you think they would with the amount of added tourisum in town...

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Now that it has happened: I guess that I should say something... nojoke
I insure a lot of snowmobiles that end up in Canada each Winter.
And each Winter: we lose a couple of them to the locals up there. :banghead:
They target out of Country visitors, and take whatever isn't nailed down and guarded.
:lecturef_smilie: KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN, and watch out for your friends also! nojoke
Lock stuff down, and then lock down the thing that you locked it down to...

[oldgoat]

I sincerely apologize for the actions of a few of my fellow Quebecers.

There are *******s everywhere.

in 2012, I think, there was a large Spyder rally in the same area & a US visitor had his enclosed trailer containing 1 or 2 Spyders stolen overnight.

I was mortified then & am again today.

[Bob Denman]

I sincerely apologize for the actions of a few of my fellow Quebecers.
There are *******s everywhere.

There's no need for you to apologize for the actions of these :shocked:... individuals!
You are correct: they are everywhere! :gaah:

And I sure didn't mean to make anyone think that everyone from Quebec likes to steal stuff either! nojoke
There are LOTS of good folks everywhere also! :thumbup:

[oldgoat]

There's no need for you to apologize for the actions of these :shocked:... individuals!
You are correct: they are everywhere! :gaah:

And I sure didn't mean to make anyone think that everyone from Quebec likes to steal stuff either! nojoke
There are LOTS of good folks everywhere also! :thumbup:


No problem, I never for one moment thought you did.

[Deanna777]

Deanna
:agree: you think they would with the amount of added tourisum in town...Gene, I hope nobody's Spyders get stolen. I hope that the hotels/motels hired extra Security for the added tourism in town. Deanna

[Yazz]

For RT owners and others that have console pockets (whatever you call those handy storage places.)

Thieves have figured out how to get into the RT glove-boxes. If you lock your handlebars which locks the glove box, it's not that hard to break it open and take the contents. It doesn't matter if you have a cover on or not.

Please take all valuables off your Spyder when not riding it...

[Bob Denman]

:gaah: This is sounding pretty annoying... :banghead:

[UtahPete]

For RT owners and others that have console pockets (whatever you call those handy storage places.)

Thieves have figured out how to get into the RT glove-boxes. If you lock your handlebars which locks the glove box, it's not that hard to break it open and take the contents. It doesn't matter if you have a cover on or not.

Please take all valuables off your Spyder when not riding it...

This issue is probably a non-starter for urban-dwellers; you just don't trust anyone you don't know with your valuable possessions and you assume and prepare for the worst in human behavior. Since moving to the rural area of Utah, I've come to understand how close-knit and trusting communities can be and why many riders on long trips might assume they can continue to be cavalier about the risks of theft or vandalism.

This isn't about Canada vs. the US. God knows, we have plenty of problems here with people looking for a quick buck for drugs or whatever. This is about using common sense, understanding the risk involved in going to events such as these, and accepting responsibility for that risk.

[Bob Denman]

:agree: :2thumbs:
When you and Toto "aren't in Kansas anymore": you can't expect to act as if you are... nojoke

[bscrive]

Stayed in the Sandman Hotel across the river from Montreal last night. This morning a hotel employee tells me that he interrupted what he believed to be the theft of my new F3. He said six "muscle bound" young guys had surrounded the bike. Behind them was a pickup with a long trailer. His impression was that they were about to pick up the F3 and load it up. They saw him watching and stopped what they were doing. I'll refrain from saying anything about the freedom of thieves in a gun-free zone.

Tonight the F3 and the RT Limited are locked up in secure underground storage in a Sherbrooke hotel.

Brand new F3 ran flawlessly from western NC. So did Margie's 2015 RT Limited. Can't say the same for the new 3K trailer from USA Trailers in Greenville SC. Nothing but trouble the entire ride. Potential buyers beware!

See ya'll tomorrow.

Punji


I won't say that this story is bull*****, but someone is lying. You, or the 'employee'.

Really!!!!..Six 'muscle bound guys' trying to steal your Spyder and get frightened off by a lone employee?????? Especially when there was a recent post on how many people it would take to steal a Spyder and the consensus was six strong guys.....And then...a comment about thieves in a 'gun free zone'????

Buddy, if you are that scared without your guns then please stay home next time, so that you don't have to come up with stories to try to justify having a gun on you all the time.

I will tell you something. If someone tried to steal your Spyder in Montreal, when there are Harleys everywhere ripe for the picking, then would have wanted it so bad that it would have been gone. Why would someone want to steal it? It's not like they would make a fortune off the 'desirable' parts.

Give me a break!!!!!!

[ARtraveler]

Huh? I looked at the OP as public service oriented. :bowdown::bowdown: It has happened there before. A trailer with two was taken from a motel parking lot.

[SteveP]

I won't say that this story is bull*****, but someone is lying. You, or the 'employee'.

Really!!!!..Six 'muscle bound guys' trying to steal your Spyder and get frightened off by a lone employee?????? Especially when there was a recent post on how many people it would take to steal a Spyder and the consensus was six strong guys.....And then...a comment about thieves in a 'gun free zone'????

Buddy, if you are that scared without your guns then please stay home next time, so that you don't have to come up with stories to try to justify having a gun on you all the time.

I will tell you something. If someone tried to steal your Spyder in Montreal, when there are Harleys everywhere ripe for the picking, then would have wanted it so bad that it would have been gone. Why would someone want to steal it? It's not like they would make a fortune off the 'desirable' parts.

Give me a break!!!!!!

After saying " I will refrain" .... but he didn't did he ? I will refrain from posting a comparison of crime stats showing U. S. compared to Canada per capita ... because I'm not on a Spyder forum to post or read that crap . Next time you are making a " public service announcement " on here please do refrain from sharing your passion for guns or your displeasure for the country who has received you as a guest

[PrairieSpyder]

Now that I'm back in the States, I'll say it. I was treated as a guest by BRP employees and by people in the hospitality industry. I don't remember any other Quebecer being polite, kind or gracious in any way. It just goes to show rudeness can be in French as well as English, Canada as well as the USA.

[ARtraveler]

Now that I'm back in the States, I'll say it. I was treated as a guest by BRP employees and by people in the hospitality industry. I don't remember any other Quebecer being polite, kind or gracious in any way. It just goes to show rudeness can be in French as well as English, Canada as well as the USA.

I think it is a Quebec thing. If you don't speak French, you are not welcome. I noted the same thing when we visited in 1997. The police even dissed us when I tried to get directions to the Old City, where we had reservations at a quaint hotel, across from the square of the big famous one. And the first question we were asked when we went into the hotel: In his best Inspector Clousseau voice: Do you have zee reservation? Glad we did. :roflblack:

[geoshmo]

My wife and I were at the Homecoming and we're treated very well by everyone we encountered. Some of the staff in restaurants and gas stations knew little English but we found that they tried to understand us and I really felt welcome. This is not what I was expecting. I had never been to Quebec before but I look forward to returning.

[Pirate looks at --]

Patti,

sorry T your experience was not the best, but I have to say that we were treated great by everyone. The people at BRP were exceptional, as were the hotel staff, but so was everyone. t gas stations, grocery stores, and even the laundry Matt. When you ryde a Spyder 3500 miles, you can't carry enough clothes for the trip. My wife and I had one resident give us the detergent for the wash, and others gave us change for the Washer. Of course we also met a nice couple from Arkansas that also assisted with change! Great people everywhere, if you have a smile on your face and treat them with respect!

[Av8er]

Still hasn't said what kind of problems he had with the trailer!!!!
I am sure everyone would like to know.

[MikeT]

I hope the hotels/motels have security camera's in there parking lots. Also, I hope that the local police do extra patrols thru the parking lots.
Deanna
Security cameras in the parking lots and extra patrols by local LEOs, or hired hotel security, is the ideal situation when any large gathering(rally, fest, homecoming, anniversary) of bikes/trikes rolls into a town near you. However, this is not the reality that many of us face when we attend these events. More than likely:
a. the security cameras are focused on the lobby area only, for obvious reasons.
b. hotel chains have budgets, and most times they choose to not have full security camera coverage, private security, or they have one person/car that covers multiple venues.
c. if vandalism/break-ins happen @a hotel, there is:
1. an absence of transparency regarding getting the information out @the hotel, other rally hotels, or by event organizers, if they were made aware.
2. don't expect the hotel to call the police/file a report because "they" don't want a "black eye" associated with them. That's an initiative to be taken by the individual(s) involved.
Now that Spyders have gotten more and more popular, this is the price owners pay. As many have said, safety and security is up to the individual.

[Trbayth]

Security cameras in the parking lots and extra patrols by local LEOs, or hired hotel security, is the ideal situation when any large gathering(rally, fest, homecoming, anniversary) of bikes/trikes rolls into a town near you. However, this is not the reality that many of us face when we attend these events. More than likely:
a. the security cameras are focused on the lobby area only, for obvious reasons.
b. hotel chains have budgets, and most times they choose to not have full security camera coverage, private security, or they have one person/car that covers multiple venues.
c. if vandalism/break-ins happen @a hotel, there is:
1. an absence of transparency regarding getting the information out @the hotel, other rally hotels, or by event organizers, if they were made aware.
2. don't expect the hotel to call the police/file a report because "they" don't want a "black eye" associated with them. That's an initiative to be taken by the individual(s) involved.
Now that Spyders have gotten more and more popular, this is the price owners pay. As many have said, safety and security is up to the individual.

When I made my reservation last year for the Comfort Inn in Drummondville, the hotel manager specifically told me there would be a security guard in the parking lot. When we arrived, the desk clerk repeated that and said they would be there from 10:00 PM to some time in the AM that I've forgotten. And there was.

[Netminder]

[QUOTE=akspyderman;1265842]I think it is a Quebec thing. If you don't speak French, you are not welcome. I noted the same thing when we visited in 1997. The police even dissed us when I tried to get directions to the Old City, where we had reservations at a quaint hotel, across from the square of the big famous one. And the first question we were asked when we went into the hotel: In his best Inspector Clousseau voice: Do you have zee reservation? Glad we did. :roflblack:[/QUOTE

i do not think this is true, and depends on the area you are in. As for the police don't worry they diss us locals as well!:roflblack: As for Old Quebec, I have never had an issue being dealt with in my language (English) (except by as mention above the QPP) as it is a tourist area and it is to their benefit. I think it is an "everywhere thing" and depends on people more then any province or state.:thumbup:

[bscrive]

You are correct Netminder.

I have traveled all over Quebec and I have met some butt heads in my travels because I don't speak French, but I have met many more Quebecers that have welcomed us with open arms. The French people are very passionate and welcoming, but if you upset them they will not be nice back.

I think PrairieSpyder just happened to find some of the not so nice Quebecers, or maybe they were having a bad day.

[JKMSPYDER]

My experience was totally opposite from Patti's. I found the locals to be very friendly from the hotel clerks, gas station attendants, and restaurant waiters/waitresses. They would normally begin speaking in French, but when I spoke English they would quickly switch over. I also noticed that the locals in cars were very cordial if I had to change lanes. Most of the time they would stop and let me in. Certainly not like some of the drivers in NY, MA, CT and NJ!:yikes: All in all, I had a most pleasant experience and would love to go back.