NY is unbelievable

[vided]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of _pistol_magazines.html

[cuznjohn]

here in the city i am only allowed to have 7 rounds in my glock. glock doesn't make a 7 round mag. so i am only allowed to under load it

[vided]

The whole state is like that :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[Chupaca]

And gun crime is way down no doubt...:banghead::banghead:

[vided]

ny is now much safer for the bad guys :yikes:

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

gun crime is down in ny but of course slashing crimes has sky rocketed, maybe because the perps aren't afraid of being shot.
i wonder if i would be allowed to shoot cuomo and tell the judge jesus told me so.

[Bob Denman]

:gaah: Cuomo's "Not-so-Safe" Act, is why I gave up being a Sportsman's Education Instructor... :banghead:
Because I have handguns with higher capacity magazines that I can not sell here in New York: I am now a criminal...
As such: I'm not going to spend my time and efforts teaching for them... nojoke

(Back to the story...)
This idiot got exactly what he deserved. He knew what the law was, and chose to ignore it. :dontknow:

[cuznjohn]

and cuomo is thinking of running for president in 2020

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Well... if it gets that flaming ******* out of New York: I could almost vote for the son of a bitch! nojoke

[Fatcycledaddy]

:gaah: Cuomo's "Not-so-Safe" Act, is why I gave up being a Sportsman's Education Instructor... :banghead:
Because I have handguns with higher capacity magazines that I can not sell here in New York: I am now a criminal...
As such: I'm not going to spend my time and efforts teaching for them... nojoke

(Back to the story...)
This idiot got exactly what he deserved. He knew what the law was, and chose to ignore it. :dontknow:
Let me see if I understand this. Glock doesn't make 7 round mags, he had mags capable of holding more than that, (all that is available), it doesn't say that they were loaded with any round, there was no gun to be found, and he still was convicted. So light loading the mags as mentioned below is still wrong? So Bob if Glock doesn't make a 7 round mag, and only loading 7 rounds isn't acceptable, what was he to do?


here in the city i am only allowed to have 7 rounds in my glock. glock doesn't make a 7 round mag. so i am only allowed to under load it So loading the gun with only 7 rounds still leaves you in possession of an illegal mag and get you prison time?
Man am I glad I don't live there, makes me wonder about even visiting.

[Bob Denman]

As I understand this new mess: you are supposed to block the magazine, so that you can't load more than the proscribed amount of rounds in it.
(Use a wooden dowel that you place inside the spring that is inside the magazine...)

But the simplest thing to do?
Don't leave illegal magazines in your car, and be stupid enough to get caught speeding! :banghead:

[PrairieSpyder]

. . .
Man am I glad I don't live there, makes me wonder about even visiting.

Me, too!

[Fatcycledaddy]

As I understand this new mess: you are supposed to block the magazine, so that you can't load more than the proscribed amount of rounds in it.
(Use a wooden dowel that you place inside the spring that is inside the magazine...) So if you purchased mags you would have to put blocks in them before you transported them home. Transporting them home in a locked box without a gun so blocks can be put in there is not acceptable!

[Bob Denman]

That's just not practical... :shocked:
But they sure would expect you to get right to it; before putting them into service. nojoke

[gkamer]

It sounds to me as if the police went out of their way to do everything possible to be sure this case would not stand a chance in a court of law. If the story depicts the factual and true series of events, any 1st year law school student would have gotten the case thrown out at arraignment. Or maybe I'm missing something.

[TicketBait]

:gaah: Cuomo's "Not-so-Safe" Act, is why I gave up being a Sportsman's Education Instructor... :banghead:
Because I have handguns with higher capacity magazines that I can not sell here in New York: I am now a criminal...
As such: I'm not going to spend my time and efforts teaching for them... nojoke

(Back to the story...)
This idiot got exactly what he deserved. He knew what the law was, and chose to ignore it. :dontknow:

The article I read, says he was pulled over for speeding, given a field sobriety test, (which is stated in the article he had not been drinking) and when he asked them to turn on their body cameras he was arrested. For a traffic stop and then search.:banghead: But this is what Trump wants is stop and frisk, so I guess law enforcement are doing what the president wants. All this coming to a town near you. Now to compound things he had illegal ammunition capacities which everyone is up in arms about. It says there were no firearms, but in a locked container were the 3 17 round clock magazines. Would love to hear how this turns out. Hopefully the NRA steps up and foots the bill for his attorneys.( removed pointless point):dontknow::chat:. There are quite a few NRA, law enforcement figures here, would love to hear their thoughts. Bob, can you not still be a Sportsman's Education Instructor with smaller capacity firearms?

[Bob Denman]

I could have... but I chose my "line in the sand", and stuck to it. nojoke
Bazookas can't legally be owned by private citizens anyway; your mention of them is pointless...

[TicketBait]

I could have... but I chose my "line in the sand", and stuck to it. nojoke
Bazookas can't legally be owned by private citizens anyway; your mention of them is pointless... removed pointless point. :gaah:


Because I have handguns with higher capacity magazines that I can not sell here in New York: I am now a criminal...

BTW, now that you are a self professed criminal, is there any award for turning you in?:D

[Bob Denman]

BTW, now that you are a self professed criminal, is there any award for turning you in?:D
:D You'd be doing me a favor: please feel free to make the call! :thumbup:
I'd get:
Three meals a day
A free College Education
Free Medical Care
Free Cable TV
A Weight Room
All of the Counselors that I could ever want to confide in
And conjugal visits!!!! :yes::yes::yes::yes:

[cuznjohn]

they sent us letters to only load 7 rounds in the mag. so i guess that makes the mag. legal lol

[Bob Denman]

You just have to be ready to drop the magazine out of it's well, and strip a few out of it... :D :clap: :thumbup:

[Kwalsh]

the law used to be you could posses mags that held more than 10 rds if they were manufactured before a certain date, now with the safe act you are only allowed 7 rounds although that ruling was overturned as the judge ruled 7 is to arbitrary and now you can load 10+1.

so its entirely possible those mags have always been illegal in ny and if he was carrying them around in his car and not stashed under his house for when SHTF then that is on him

oh and by the way FUAC

[Bob Denman]

The Glock 17 was designed around a magazine having a 17 round capacity. :thumbup:
But I've seen 30 rounders that'll fit them! :D

[Fatcycledaddy]

The Glock 17 was designed around a magazine having a 17 round capacity. :thumbup:
But I've seen 30 rounders that'll fit them! :D Can you imagine getting busted with one of those?

[Bob Denman]

They'd throw you in jail...



...and throw away the jail! :yikes:

[vided]

Only if you you were a registered and licensed :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[cuznjohn]

once again, here in the city, you can not own a pistol with a mag. larger then the so called 7 rounds. the double stack 15 or 16 round mags are for police only

[Bob Denman]

Do you know how that 7 round capacity came to be? :D
Cuomo knew that revolvers hold 6 rounds...
(Which is incorrect; but that's his ignorance, and our little secret! :roflblack:)
So in his own little tiny mindset: he figured that semi-automatics should also be limited to 6 rounds.
Everything was going along nicely... right up until one of his hirelings realized that this statute would ban the fabled Colt 1911: it held 7 rounds! :yikes:
If this happened: none of them would ever get elected to anything again... EVER!!!
So they did what Politicians do best: they just changed the number! :thumbup:


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[Cavman]

I would like to go to Stowe, VT to visit the von Trapp Family Lodge. I will have to travel thru the state of NY. Guess I should only carry my Glock 42 locked up and unloaded as the mags hold only 6 rounds each?

[mowin]

Well, it's up to you, but I wouldn't want to get caught while traveling through NY. nojoke

[vided]

Well, it's up to you, but I wouldn't want to get caught while traveling through NY. nojoke


:agree: What he said. It's not worth the BS:banghead::banghead:

[Bob Denman]

I would like to go to Stowe, VT to visit the von Trapp Family Lodge. I will have to travel thru the state of NY. Guess I should only carry my Glock 42 locked up and unloaded as the mags hold only 6 rounds each?

:shocked: Don't do it... nojoke
How would you like to be the one that they decide to turn into the "Bad example"? :yikes:

[Kwalsh]

I would like to go to Stowe, VT to visit the von Trapp Family Lodge. I will have to travel thru the state of NY. Guess I should only carry my Glock 42 locked up and unloaded as the mags hold only 6 rounds each?



What they said!!!! unless you have a valid NYS pistol permit you are not allowed to handle or hold or look at or even think about a pistol !!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghe ad:

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Sux; doesn't it? :gaah:

[cuznjohn]

going hunting one year we were traveling at night, i always brought my 357 mag with me. i had a target license amended for hunting in NY, and had the gun in the trunk buried under all our stuff. like we always did, we were dressed in some of our hunting red, and traveling on the Palisades parkway when a new jersey trooper pulled us over. he questioned us about what we were doing, and where we were going. we told him ellenvile NY and he asked if we had guns in the car. we said yes they are in the trunk, and he asked to open the trunk. i never said the pistol was in there, and he just opened two cases to see if the rifles were unloaded. at that point he told us we should not be traveling through NJ with guns in the car unless we had permission. but it turned out he was a pretty good guy and let us off with a warning. my guess is that if he found out i had a pistol in the trunk, he might of not been so nice. so just be careful.
i think someone is trying to pass a bill where NY honors other states carry permits, but i doubt that will happen

[Bob Denman]

You're right: there is talk of National right to carry reciprocity among all of the States...

Will it happen? :dontknow:
But I hope that it does! :D

[vided]

That would make way to much sense, after all, can you drive from state to state:banghead::banghead::banghead:

[PCBeachBum]

CT is no better and registration is the law for guns and magazines. I have family and friends that joined the other 100k who didn't register and became instant criminals when they refused to register. Only about 40k law abiding gun owners in CT registered their guns and mags. As for me? I moved out of CT in 2001 and have yet to regret it.

[PCBeachBum]

About 10 years ago my cousin who lives in the Berkshires of MA, was heading to a gun show in PA and his truck broke down with a bad bearing in one of his front wheels on Rt 95 in Greenwich CT. A CT state trooper pulled in behind him and asked what the problem was. My cousin told him and the trooper asked him where he was heading. My cousin told him to a gun show in PA and the trooper asked if he had any guns? My cousin said he had several locked up in a safe in the back of his truck and handing him his CT permit, he told the trooper he had Colt .45 in my shoulder holster. The CT state trooper freaked out and after removing the Colt from my cousin, the trooper asked if he had a CT permit. My cousin told him yes, I just gave it to you along with my drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. The trooper asked if he had any other gun permits my cousin told him he has permits for every state he needs to for traveling and the trooper told him, its against the law to have more than one permit and being from MA, he was in violation of CT law. My cousin told him he could have a permit for every state and its not against the law to have more than one permit. The trooper took them all and went back to his cruiser. While waiting two more troopers pulled up and talking to my cousin, they wanted permission to search his truck. My cousin refused their request.

About 5 minutes later the first trooper said he was wrong and my cousin was right and he stopped the other troopers from any further actions and asked my cousin what his plan was? He said it looks like the gun show is out and I'll be heading home. My cousin turned around and headed back to MA, taking 95 to Rt 8 and the whole way from Greenwich to Winsted CT exit, this trooper followed my cousin.

A Florida permit is good for 19 other states and unlike the northeast, MA, CT, NY, NJ, PA and other states, these 19 states are all connected by state lines. If I were to travel back to CT to see my brothers, I'd leave my preferred carry gun at home here locked up with the others. Last I heard my brother told me Gov Malloy wants to raise the price of a gun permit in CT to $300.00. Here in FL a first time permit cost $117.00 and no course is needed if the person is a veteran. If not a veteran a course is needed and one can take the course at any gun show in Florida. The cost of the course is around $250.00 and this includes all pictures and fingerprints, that are submitted electronically. If you hold a permit from another state, the course is needed. I am a veteran, but took the course and every year they hold seminars at a hotel here that can be taken to keep up with laws that change. To renew a Florida permit, two passport pictures are needed and it costs $65.00 and is good for 7 years. I renewed 2 years ago and within two weeks, I received my new permit in the mail.

[kep-up]

About 10 years ago my cousin who lives in the Berkshires of MA, was heading to a gun show in PA and his truck broke down with a bad bearing in one of his front wheels on Rt 95 in Greenwich CT. A CT state trooper pulled in behind him and asked what the problem was. My cousin told him and the trooper asked him where he was heading. My cousin told him to a gun show in PA and the trooper asked if he had any guns? My cousin said he had several locked up in a safe in the back of his truck and handing him his CT permit, he told the trooper he had Colt .45 in my shoulder holster. The CT state trooper freaked out and after removing the Colt from my cousin, the trooper asked if he had a CT permit. My cousin told him yes, I just gave it to you along with my drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. The trooper asked if he had any other gun permits my cousin told him he has permits for every state he needs to for traveling and the trooper told him, its against the law to have more than one permit and being from MA, he was in violation of CT law. My cousin told him he could have a permit for every state and its not against the law to have more than one permit. The trooper took them all and went back to his cruiser. While waiting two more troopers pulled up and talking to my cousin, they wanted permission to search his truck. My cousin refused their request.

About 5 minutes later the first trooper said he was wrong and my cousin was right and he stopped the other troopers from any further actions and asked my cousin what his plan was? He said it looks like the gun show is out and I'll be heading home. My cousin turned around and headed back to MA, taking 95 to Rt 8 and the whole way from Greenwich to Winsted CT exit, this trooper followed my cousin.

A Florida permit is good for 19 other states and unlike the northeast, MA, CT, NY, NJ, PA and other states, these 19 states are all connected by state lines. If I were to travel back to CT to see my brothers, I'd leave my preferred carry gun at home here locked up with the others. Last I heard my brother told me Gov Malloy wants to raise the price of a gun permit in CT to $300.00. Here in FL a first time permit cost $117.00 and no course is needed if the person is a veteran. If not a veteran a course is needed and one can take the course at any gun show in Florida. The cost of the course is around $250.00 and this includes all pictures and fingerprints, that are submitted electronically. If you hold a permit from another state, the course is needed. I am a veteran, but took the course and every year they hold seminars at a hotel here that can be taken to keep up with laws that change. To renew a Florida permit, two passport pictures are needed and it costs $65.00 and is good for 7 years. I renewed 2 years ago and within two weeks, I received my new permit in the mail.

You do realize, don't you, that your Florida permit is welcome here in PA? You simply have to enter PA via WV or OH. If you are planning to go on to VT NH or ME, you won't be welcome in any of the other states surrounding PA.

[Bob Denman]

PC,
I'm glad to hear that the Trooper admitted that he was wrong, and called off the search. :thumbup:
I understand caution on his part...
And also the common sense! :D

[d.o.spyder-rts]

:D You'd be doing me a favor: please feel free to make the call! :thumbup:
I'd get:
Three meals a day
A free College Education
Free Medical Care
Free Cable TV
A Weight Room
All of the Counselors that I could ever want to confide in
And conjugal visits!!!! :yes::yes::yes::yes:

But Bob, you would be spyderless!! :D Dale

[Bob Denman]

:yikes: I hadn't thought of that... 147092

[cuznjohn]

here in NYC proper, they will do anything they can to catch you doing something wrong, just to pull your permit. once i went down for a gun inspection. it was funny now, bit really stupid at the time. i show up at one police plaza with a brief case, locked, inside that was a locked gun case, in the gun case was my gun with a trigger lock on it.

now to get into the building, you have to go through a metal detector, and all bags have to be x raided. so a woman cop is manning the metal detector, and x ray machine, and i produce my license, the letter telling me to report to room 152 for a gun inspection. i empty all my pockets, take off my belt, and put my brief case in the x ray machine. all of a sudden the woman cop yells, cops surround me, and she is screaming at me that i had a gun.

i said yes, it is in the case. the other cops look at her like she is nuts, a sergeant comes over and asks what is going on, looks at me and says, do you have a gun on you. i said no it is in the case locked up. he looks at my paper work, gives me all my stuff, and tells me to go into room 152. what a bunch of jerks. it used to be so easy to do gun transactions, but since 9/11, things have changed so much. they used to have parking under the building, but they closed that. now you need someone to drive you into downtown Manhattan, or take a train with a gun in a locked box. it also used to be that if you went to a licensed gun dealer, you could sell them your gun, and mail them the receipt, and they would remove the gun from your permit. now you need to write them asking permission to sell a gun, when they approve it, you have to go down to pick up the approval letter, then you have to go back and bring them the proof that you sold it to a license dealer or person.

if you want to buy a gun, you need to write them, if you are approved, it can take up to about 3 months, i think you have 30 days to go down there and pick up the order to by a new gun. then you have so many day to buy the gun, and bring it back to them for a inspection. so NY suck when it comes to guns

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Your story reminds me of why I'm not spending a SECOND longer in this ****ing place, than I absolutely have to!!nojoke

[Cavman]

147102My GA permit is good where indicated. My FL & UT permits cover some of same states BUT only if I'm a resident of the state the permits are issued from.

[cuznjohn]

147102My GA permit is good where indicated. My FL & UT permits cover some of same states BUT only if I'm a resident of the state the permits are issued from.

we can only have one permit, we can't have permits from multiple states

[Bob Denman]

John,
I know about thirty New York Residents, that have multiple permits. nojoke
:D You just have to know what you should, and shouldn't: show the Officer! :D
I used to have a permit for Pennsylvania. I was going down there to shoot in outdoor 2700 matches about five times each Summer.
Once I quit shooting in them: I let it lapse... :banghead:
(BIG mistake on my part!)

[cuznjohn]

John,
I know about thirty New York Residents, that have multiple permits. nojoke
:D You just have to know what you should, and shouldn't: show the Officer! :D
I used to have a permit for Pennsylvania. I was going down there to shoot in outdoor 2700 matches about five times each Summer.
Once I quit shooting in them: I let it lapse... :banghead:
(BIG mistake on my part!)

every 3 years when you renew, one of the questions is, do you have any other licenses, i am guessing if you say yes, you will have a problem or they wouldn't ask. and if you say no, and they find out you do, you lied on the application

[Bob Denman]

:D You're talking about a New York City permit...

That's even worse than ours from up here! :shocked:


If it was me: I wouldn't tell them anything about any other permits! nojoke
(They have no way of checking anyway! :D)

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

this is why the only gun i carry is between my legs and i don't need a license or permit to carry or use in any state, i just need
my wifes permission. and don't ask how many rounds it can shoot unless you want to find out.

[Bob Denman]

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[cuznjohn]

this is why the only gun i carry is between my legs and i don't need a license or permit to carry or use in any state, i just need
my wifes permission. and don't ask how many rounds it can shoot unless you want to find out.

but al with a barrel that short, you will never hit anything

[Bob Denman]

147106

[vided]

So, the title of this thread needs 1 word add,
and that word is :cus: :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[Bob Denman]

:agree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLDnPiXyME0

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

now john, bob, can i ask how you know and why you would care? i think you guys have been peeping in on me when
i am in the bathroom. :gaah:

[cuznjohn]

we have been using a drone with a hubble telescope on it. only thing that would spot it

[Bob Denman]

147125

[cuznjohn]

bob when i met you and the wife, you seemed pretty normal. but you sometimes think like i do, and that is pretty scary. i have always been told i am one of a kind

[d.o.spyder-rts]

Makes me happy I no longer live in NYS!! nojoke Dale

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Makes me happy I no longer live in NYS!! nojoke Dale

Wish i could say that

[Bob Denman]

Al,
How far away from retirement are you? :dontknow:
I'm planning on cashing my "Social In-Security" checks a LOOOOONG way from here! :thumbup:

[cuznjohn]

i only have my sister and she lives 35 minutes from me. so if she ever moved i would think about it. but other then that i am here to stay. al looks pretty young to me, plus he has his business, so i don't think he is going to retire soon.

[Bob Denman]

Would she stay put; or move if you did? :dontknow:
Ask her... :D

[cuznjohn]

she is set. loves her house on the water, her boyfriend is a brick contractor in that area, so they are happy there

[Bob Denman]

:clap: It sounds like the PERFECT setup for her! :D
(That means that she doesn't need you :shocked:...)
Live your own life, and you can always visit each other whenever the mood strikes! :2thumbs:

By the way: I mean absolutely no offense to either of you! nojoke

[cuznjohn]

none taken, only way you can hurt my feelings is to take food away from me, or with a 2x4.

[Bob Denman]

:D I wouldn't dare try to do either of those things to you... :2thumbs:

[mowin]

8 more yrs in this socialist state. Unless we hit the lottery.

[Bob Denman]

:D We've got less than six.
That's gives us a two year head-start, in the biggest game of "hind and go seek", that has ever been played!!! :yes::yes::yes:

[PCBeachBum]

You do realize, don't you, that your Florida permit is welcome here in PA? You simply have to enter PA via WV or OH. If you are planning to go on to VT NH or ME, you won't be welcome in any of the other states surrounding PA.


I did look up the other states my Florida permit is good in and PA is one of them. If I head up that way, I would be going to CT to see my brothers and than up to My cousins house in the Berkshires to do some shooting with his guns. He has 45 acres of land and no one around him with only 5 people living in the town. He is always out shooting and has a picnic table outside his front door where he sits and sights in a new rifle and scope. He also collects military hardware and one of his toys is a small howitzer, he tows behind his truck on his property to thin out dead or dying trees. He uses cue balls for cannon balls. Later he goes back with an old chainsaw to cut up the tree and splits it when he gets it back to the house. He has piles of wood to burn in the winter for heat. He also gives a lot of wood away to neighbors who live in his town. He lives about 20 to 30 minutes out of town. He had a Gamma Goat he paid $4000. for and drove that to town few times to get his mail in the winter and used it in Parades on Memorial day and Veterans Day. Because it wasn't registered, he just wore his old Army uniform and with just two sheriff in town, they never bothered him. It kind of reminds me of Mayberry from Andy Griffith Show and the only thing missing was a Barney.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

i've got 7 years to go & i run south, wilmington nc is what i am looking at. cut property taxes by 75% and living expenses by 40%.

[mowin]

Were thinking Virginia. It going to be a long 8 yrs in NYastan