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ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 10:30 AM
I'm getting ready to start me retirement in my RV and I would like to tow my 2012 RT behind it.
Is it possible to tow the RT 3 wheels down?
I can make a bracket, I just want to make sure I will not hurt the engine and transmission

fjray
02-18-2017, 10:45 AM
The transmission needs engine oil pressure for proper lubrication. Get a trailer.

HughT
02-18-2017, 11:03 AM
I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-18-2017, 11:04 AM
After advising DO NOT DO THIS ....... could you - yes if you removed the DRIVE BELT ..... But I can not think of any type of towing set-up you ( or someone ) could devise that wouldn't do something BAD to the front suspension ..... other than a front wheel DOLLY set-up !!!!! ..... But that would have to be custom made ..... so cost wise getting a small aluminum trailer is easier and cheaper in the long run............ Mike :thumbup:

Chupaca
02-18-2017, 11:04 AM
You can tow them to safety but if you are going to travel I would trailer it. I did see a lift (like motorized wheel chairs) on the back of a motorhome with a spyder on it but not sure how well that would work. I know there has been mention of towing but removing the belt so there is not drive to the engine but not an easy task to do each time you want to ryde....:dontknow: Toy hauler or trailer would be best....

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 11:12 AM
You can tow them to safety but if you are going to travel I would trailer it. I did see a lift (like motorized wheel chairs) on the back of a motorhome with a spyder on it but not sure how well that would work.
I was thinking of this setup and I even saw one once. The problem I have is that I have a 10,000 pound hitch that would support 1,000 pound tongue weight. The bike weighs almost 1,100 pounds. which is not a problem. The problem I see is that the bike is hanging very aft of the ball and bouncing up and down.

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 11:17 AM
I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

I actually like that.
Would I have to remove the windscreen ever time I tow it?
What about the front wheels, would I have to lock the handlebars?

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 11:26 AM
The front tires on the scale are 650 pounds and the rear tire was 450 pounds.

HughT
02-18-2017, 01:07 PM
I know that has been a lot of discussion about trailer size, what size is recommended for a RT?

Bob Denman
02-18-2017, 01:20 PM
Consider a 6x10 trailer as about the minimum. :thumbup:

Highwayman2013
02-18-2017, 02:32 PM
I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

Looks like the nose would be very close to the ground. I would get a nice trailer and be done with it.

Highwayman2013
02-18-2017, 02:35 PM
I know that has been a lot of discussion about trailer size, what size is recommended for a RT?

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ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 02:41 PM
I was building a nice aluminum trailer with a tilt bed. Since I don't weld aluminum I was having the shop teacher weld it. I don't think it will be finished in the next two weeks. I will be back next January and finish it then

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 02:43 PM
Looks like the nose would be very close to the ground. I would get a nice trailer and be done with it.
I'm going to make it with the back wheel a little lower. My front wheels are 2-3" higher than a normal RT since I changed the springs

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 02:46 PM
I know that has been a lot of discussion about trailer size, what size is recommended for a RT?

The one that I'm building has a bed 6' X 10" which tilts, and then 3' upfront for an enclosed area (3X6').
Very similar to the Aluma trailer

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-18-2017, 03:49 PM
I'm going to make it with the back wheel a little lower. My front wheels are 2-3" higher than a normal RT since I changed the springs
Really :yikes: ..... so your ground clearance is now 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 inches :gaah:........ The people who did your front alignment must have been talented .............. jmho ...... Mike :thumbup:

fjray
02-18-2017, 05:48 PM
Really :yikes: ..... so you ground clearance is now 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 inches :gaah:........ The people who did your front alignment must have been talented .............. jmho ...... Mike :thumbup:


Setting the toe in with the laser will be the same but I'll bet there is more than a little negative camber. Negative camber will stick good in the corners but raise hell on tire wear. That much change in ride height can't be good for suspension parts. just another opinion.

Questions
02-18-2017, 05:57 PM
Min. trailer size is 6ft. X 10fyt. I know because I have a 5 X 10 trailer and it is 3" too narrow. Good thing I have a neighbor who has one the right size that I am borrowing next week to get my new RT Limited. Always a two wheel rider until this year.

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 06:01 PM
Really :yikes: ..... so you ground clearance is now 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 inches :gaah:........ The people who did your front alignment must have been talented .............. jmho ...... Mike :thumbup:

I don't get it??
They laser aligned it. I also raised the rear.
It handles so much better. In a roundabout I can turn the wheel with one hand. I used to fight to do that

ahh-cool
02-18-2017, 06:02 PM
Setting the toe in with the laser will be the same but I'll bet there is more than a little negative camber. Negative camber will stick good in the corners but raise hell on tire wear. That much change in ride height can't be good for suspension parts. just another opinion.

It's a much smoother ride.

bmccaffrey
02-18-2017, 08:03 PM
The transmission needs engine oil pressure for proper lubrication. Get a trailer.

yep that's what u need to do

Deanna777
02-18-2017, 08:36 PM
Tow your 2012RT spyder on a trailer, behind your RV, tie your spyder down with a strap.

Run the strap underneath the spyder ( so it wont scratch your tupperware) and on top of the center of the rear tire, secure it on the front of the trailer.


Send a pm to Mike,( Blueknight911) he can help you. Deanna

CA Railwhale
02-19-2017, 01:32 AM
Whatever you do, DON'T buy a trailer with siderails. Unless you have a lot of clearance, it's miserable to load the bike. My trailer was four inches wider than my F-3 and it would take a half hour or more to load because you have NO room to turn the front wheels. I just removed everything above the load bed with a bandsaw except for the front bulkhead and the rear eight inches which support the tailgate and the lights. Things are much easier now. You also need at least a five to six foot ramp in order to keep from high centering as you load the bike.

Jim&Teresa
02-19-2017, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE=HughT;1227041]I know that has been a lot of discussion about trailer size, what size is recommended for a RT?QUOTE]

From an earlier post of mine:

Get the dimensions and literature: http://www.droptailtrailers.com/ (http://www.droptailtrailers.com/)

I use it for EITHER the Spyder or the Gold Wing. I must use the center position for the Gold Wing as it will not fit on the left or right side of the trailer due to length. We trailer our 2014 RT Limited with no problem with this trailer and it "noses" up in the V part of the trailer against our 20" stone guard (which is optional). The 4 pictures added at bottom were just a couple months ago....note that I do NOT transport with the cover on it. I only cover the Spyder when leaving it out overnight! Also, all the tie down straps were removed at this time as it was parked.

We use a Droptail trailer. I really like that it folds and stores upright in the garage and NO ramps needed - built in. Works well for the Spyder with the low clearance. The back of the trailer hydraulically lowers and the built in rear gate folds down to extend the ramp portion. Easy to use. Our Spyder RT just fits and the nose of the Spyder fits in the V part of the front of the trailer. Not a lot of spare room, but works well. The Spyder fills the whole trailer even though this is a "two up" motorcycle trailer. A bonus for us is that our Gold Wing can be hauled on this trailer (with the use of the wheel chock that is included with the trailer) as well - however, only one bike at a time (unless you have two - 2 wheel motorcycles that are "short" enough). There is a standard 8 inch stone guard and an optional 20" stone guard. I did add the 20" stone guard on our trailer. Also, we purchased an optional spare tire which bolts to the bottom of the trailer. It has a steel frame with an aluminum deck with lots of tie down points!

Here's some info on the model number and a few pics: Drop - Tail "Two - Up" Cruiser / Sport Bike Trailer, model number: 03-DCT2200-02

Good luck on your choice of trailers - there are a lot of good trailers out there that work!! :thumbup:


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Igofshn
02-19-2017, 09:37 AM
What brand trailer does everyone use?? Looking at Carry on 6x12 wood deck.

wanderingman
02-19-2017, 10:33 AM
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I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

I just looked at this towing system on the company web site. My question is what keeps the front wheels from trying or succeeding from turning (trying to steer) while being towed. When a car is towed with the front wheels down, the steering wheel has to be locked in place.

Bob Denman
02-19-2017, 10:36 AM
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I just looked at this towing system on the company web site. My question is what keeps the front wheels from trying or succeeding from turning (trying to steer) while being towed. When a car is towed with the front wheels down, the steering wheel has to be locked in place.
The natural tendency should be for the tires to track straight. :thumbup:

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-19-2017, 11:00 AM
Whatever you do, DON'T buy a trailer with siderails. Unless you have a lot of clearance, it's miserable to load the bike. My trailer was four inches wider than my F-3 and it would take a half hour or more to load because you have NO room to turn the front wheels. I just removed everything above the load bed with a bandsaw except for the front bulkhead and the rear eight inches which support the tailgate and the lights. Things are much easier now. You also need at least a five to six foot ramp in order to keep from high centering as you load the bike.
Hopefully you didn't substantially WEAKEN the structure ...... If those top rails were part of the estimated load carrying capacity ........ Your trailer could have a Major frame break at some point down the road ...... JMHO ..... Mike :thumbup:

duke50
02-19-2017, 12:56 PM
Get a trailer!!!! What are u thinking!!!

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CA Railwhale
02-19-2017, 02:00 PM
Hopefully you didn't substantially WEAKEN the structure ...... If those top rails were part of the estimated load carrying capacity ........ Your trailer could have a Major frame break at some point down the road ...... JMHO ..... Mike :thumbup:

No, the rails were just superstructure, there is still a solid frame as well as perimeter railing at the under deck level. Plus the rated capacity of the trailer is over twice the weight of my F-3. If I see evidence of failure, I'll have it reinforced.

Deanna777
02-19-2017, 03:11 PM
Get a trailer!!!! What are u thinking!!!

Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk:agree: Deanna

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-19-2017, 03:33 PM
No, the rails were just superstructure, there is still a solid frame as well as perimeter railing at the under deck level. Plus the rated capacity of the trailer is over twice the weight of my F-3. If I see evidence of failure, I'll have it reinforced.
Thanks for checking and reporting back :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:..... ...... Mike :ohyea:

WEB-WVR
02-19-2017, 05:56 PM
Like Bob said, get a 6'x10' enclosed trailer with a rear load door-ramp. You can put some shelves in there for more of your camping/travel gear too. I got a real nice one for $3,200.00 new. :bowdown:

ahh-cool
02-19-2017, 08:42 PM
Thanks, I'm going to see if I can get my trailer welded before I take off for my trip

Rawhide kid
02-19-2017, 09:23 PM
?......
I would NEVER flat tow anything. My uncle has had 2 flat tires on his towed vehicles which caused thousands of dollars in damage. By the time you realize the towed vehicle has a flat tire, its too late.

Another very good reason to use fobo tpm imho. Or some other tpm.

draboo
02-19-2017, 10:56 PM
It sounds like you have a good sized motorhome if you have a 1000# tongue weight with a 10,000 capacity. I would use an enclosed trailer. We towed a motorcycle across the country on an unenclosed trailer. I was not pleased on how dirty it got. Plus, you can use the extra room for storing other items. I guess it would also depend on how far and how long you would be on the road.

We now tow a 6X12 enclosed trailer that contains my Scout plus all sorts of various tools and stuff for our 4 month stint as campground hosts in the Upper Peninsula of Mich. You can find a 6X12 for around $4K or less, if used.

EricSuz
02-19-2017, 11:25 PM
Check out the Ironhorse trailer. Expensive but a joy to use. I used it last year a spyderfest. Plan to use it again at this year's spyderfest. It would be great to tow behind a motorhome.

JFD
02-20-2017, 12:09 AM
Cargo mate will make you a 6.5 x 10 or 12 trailer. I got a 6.5 x 10 for $2400 purchased in Elkhart IN. so no shipping etc. Had to pay registration and sales tax in Illinois, but it wasn't much. Perfect size. Notice how the ramp goes all the way out to the outer edges and gives more room to get in.

spydercruza
02-20-2017, 02:50 PM
I just bought a 7+12 ft v-nose trailer for $2995.00 from Patriot perfect size with room to spare at front wheels

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ahh-cool
02-20-2017, 08:06 PM
I have a 45' RV with a 400HP Cummins on a freightliner chassis.
I'm trying not to be too much longer than I am right now. We already have a problem getting into an RV park.
I either need to build one or buy one locally because once I leave we will not be back here till January. We are leaving in 2 weeks and we can't stay in South Florida any longer. The city is forcing me to leave by March 7, or pay a fine of $150. per day.
I think I just found a trailer. Aluminum 8.5X10' bed. Used he said he bought it about 5 years ago used so he doesn't know how old it is. The tires are original so I will replace them before I leave. I'm going to look at it this weekend or before

burg650
02-21-2017, 04:20 AM
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In my opinion this is one of the best trailers for the spyder, so many reason why but for one the bug shields will complete keep your spyder clean and rock chip free that is if you have the open model and of course the enclosed will do a better job protecting. It was also the easiest trailer to use, without a doubt money well spend on this trailer.

Zip
02-21-2017, 08:13 AM
I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

I can envision the nose getting trashed. I would not recommend this.

Zip
02-21-2017, 08:16 AM
In my opinion this is one of the best trailers for the spyder, so many reason why but for one the bug shields will complete keep your spyder clean and rock chip free that is if you have the open model and of course the enclosed will do a better job protecting. It was also the easiest trailer to use, without a doubt money well spend on this trailer.

Looks similar to mine which I really like.

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/product/2-bike-fliptop-motorcycle-trailer/

(http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/product/2-bike-fliptop-motorcycle-trailer/)

PapaHotel
02-21-2017, 10:02 AM
I bought a used boat trailer. I haven't modified it yet, but I am sure I can make it work. My only concern is the Spyderpops front LED lights. Don't want to scrape them when loading/unloading, they are low to the ground and are too pretty to mess up.

RussRT
02-21-2017, 10:13 AM
I purchased a 7x12 enclosed trailer with a drop down rear door. I painted the inside with 2 coats of paint. Then I put. 3/4 plywood floor over the existing floor. I use it as a Spyder garage during the winter. I will tow the Spyder in it when needed. The 7x12 allows good clearance when loading and unloading. Also it has electric brakes. I tow with a F-150 with Ecoboost and the trailer package.
I also have a 7x12 open landscaping trailer that I used to pickup my Spyder in Chicago at IMotorsports. I live in Akron Ohio. Tied it down good and no problems.good luck!!

Bob Denman
02-21-2017, 10:40 AM
Russ,
Have you ever put your new trailer and RT onto a set of scales?
(I wonder what it weighs?)

james danny
02-21-2017, 11:10 AM
I tow with a aluma tk1 .Build for trikes . Best' trailer I even towed. Has box for extra items.

ahh-cool
02-21-2017, 11:55 AM
Looks similar to mine which I really like.

http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/product/2-bike-fliptop-motorcycle-trailer/

(http://www.ironhorsetrailers.com/product/2-bike-fliptop-motorcycle-trailer/)
I really like that trailer, just not willing to spend $7,700

ahh-cool
02-21-2017, 11:59 AM
I'm probably going to buy that trailer I found last night.

ahh-cool
02-21-2017, 04:18 PM
The guy with the trailer just texted me and told me the size of the tire is 20.5X8X10. Her said there is about 4" between the top of the tire and the bottom of the trailer. The tires are under the bed of the trailer. I will probably drive close to 7,000 miles this year. Do you think they will hold up? Is there a way to lower the axle and put a bigger tire on it. I would feel better with a 14" or 15" tire

Buckeye Bleau
02-21-2017, 04:51 PM
I don't know if anyone has tried this system. Take a look at http://www.motorcycle-rack.com/CanAm_Tow_System.html

It might be what you are looking for. If anyone out there has tried this, please let me know.

Did you notice or can you imagine how close that nose is to the pavement, yowza!:yikes:

Joe

rutger
02-21-2017, 06:28 PM
https://www.stingertrailer.com/product/stinger-can-am-spyder-trailer/

ahh-cool
02-22-2017, 09:39 AM
Did you notice or can you imagine how close that nose is to the pavement, yowza!:yikes:

Joe

I don't think I need that system. If I was I was going to drop the rear which would raise the nose