FYI: Top Case Kit for 2016-2017 F3T

[TomG]

I just installed the BRP top case on my 2016 F3T, and found out that the side panel kit is not exactly "Optional".

Specifically, When I discovered that there were no side panels in the box, I called my dealer and they opened a incident with BRP for me, and were told that the top case comes without any side panes included. This is really pretty crazy in my opinion, since not only is the top case much less attractive without the side panels, due to the contour the the case without them, but the wiring harness for the tail light and radio antenna are exposed to the weather. Even if this were not enough. the installation of the radio antenna uses the left (non-existent) as the mounting point.

I had expected that a funky set of panels would be included, thus allowing a compete install, but at the same time encourage the ordering of a nicer looking panels, but I was, and remain blown away that no panels are included with the base price AND the side panels are described in the catalog as being "Optional".

One last note. Though BRP describes the case as "Quick Installation and Removal" this is also a bit misleading. while neither the install nor removal is difficult, it is not something most would want to do in a motel parking lot. Removal is essentially an uninstall. It involves two mounting Torx screws, and I believe 4 electrical connections (one of which requires a wrench/socket). Plus, since the top case replaces the panel that covers the area behind the passenger, unless one want to leave that area exposed to the weather, and passersby, then the pedestal to which the case mounts must also be removed (4 more Torx screws) and the stock rear panel reinstalled (consider how to carry that panel with you on a road trip).

I do not plan to remove/install case more than a few times a year, and even then it will be done at home, so it becomes almost a non-issue for me.

Now, just to be clear, I love the top case, even though I had to order the side panels and the Inner bag (MSRP $200 and $130). For me personally, I could not be happier with the case, but do feel that I was mislead.

[armyspydervet]

I didn't even realize it was released yet. Could you provide some photo's to see what it looks like? Also, did you install the optional speakers?

[Chupaca]

that is misleading and if it were more to the point one could order the missing parts. :banghead: but then if you already have half your more apt to buy the rest....:banghead:

[Copperman]

I still say that if I wanted a top case for my F3L, I would have kept my RT Limited.

[SpyderF3]

I didn't even realize it was released yet. Could you provide some photo's to see what it looks like? Also, did you install the optional speakers?

The speakers are included with the top case, however the amplifier is another option to activate the speakers, you will also need a USB key with the upload program to activate the speakers. I like the look and the additional storage, it has 2USB ports inside along with a LED light, the 3rd brake light and a heads up on the dash if the lid is not closed. When I ordered mine the dealer did tell me that I would need the side panels and asked what color I wanted them in.

[Gsebring]

Could you share with us the cost of all the bits and pieces?

[Highwayman2013]

I think I will just go with a Baker Built luggage rack and a generic top box. Only need the trunk for trips.
Probably $350 all in.

[armyspydervet]

The speakers are included with the top case, however the amplifier is another option to activate the speakers, you will also need a USB key with the upload program to activate the speakers. I like the look and the additional storage, it has 2USB ports inside along with a LED light, the 3rd brake light and a heads up on the dash if the lid is not closed. When I ordered mine the dealer did tell me that I would need the side panels and asked what color I wanted them in.

I'm torn. It's a lot of money for what you get. You could almost buy a trailer for the price. But my kids would love to have the back rest, arm rests and extra space. I'm going to have to think on this one for awhile.

[Al Gully]

I hummed and hawed when I was looking at the 2016 F3L and the 2017's with the top box.
Like it has been posted, if I wanted a top box, I would of stepped up to an RT.

[SpyderF3]

Could you share with us the cost of all the bits and pieces?

I had in all figured in on the purchase price but I'm going to say with the arm rest, cargo, side panels, wiring harness and amplifier it was close to 2K. 99% of my riding is with the wife and she wanted the back rest and arm rest's and the cost of those are getting close to half the total cost without the speaker option, so I figured what the heck.:yes:

[armyspydervet]

I hummed and hawed when I was looking at the 2016 F3L and the 2017's with the top box.
Like it has been posted, if I wanted a top box, I would of stepped up to an RT.
If the RT sat and handled like an F3, I would have gotten that too.

[SpyderF3]

If the RT sat and handled like an F3, I would have gotten that too.

I was dead set on getting a RT until I drove one, when I came back to the dealer after the test ride I told him I didn't like it and said I wasn't interested in it. The first time I had to lift my leg to break in an emergency I was dead. And I felt like I sat way to high, I was used to a seat height of 24" on my motorcycle with forward controls, I was going to leave until he asked me if I tried an F3, they adjusted the foot pegs on one set up for u-fit and I was sold. To me it feels really close to the seating position on my bike and it sold me. My wife loves the air ride:yes:

[MagYukon]

Hi TomG,

Can you tell me how is it really ?

I went to a show last week-end and I saw the top case on a few F3L. For what I can tell, what I saw, was pretty cheap. The representant told me that it was not a production case (just a prototype) and that the real one must be a little different.

If I compare the same F3 with the top case or with a standard passenger back rest, the top case seems to be at least 2 to 3 inches closer to the driver. So the passenger is really to close to me. On the one that you have, is it the same or is the back rest at the same place ?

Also, on those that i saw, the back rest doesn't have a confortable angle. When on the seat, the back rest was too inclined toward the front.

I really hope that the production ones are not the same. I won't even give 500$ for what I saw. So, I'm really far of the 2K$ that BRP are asking for them.

Thanks !

[TomG]

Hi TomG,

Can you tell me how is it really ?

I went to a show last week-end and I saw the top case on a few F3L. For what I can tell, what I saw, was pretty cheap. The representant told me that it was not a production case (just a prototype) and that the real one must be a little different.

If I compare the same F3 with the top case or with a standard passenger back rest, the top case seems to be at least 2 to 3 inches closer to the driver. So the passenger is really to close to me. On the one that you have, is it the same or is the back rest at the same place ?

Also, on those that i saw, the back rest doesn't have a confortable angle. When on the seat, the back rest was too inclined toward the front.

I really hope that the production ones are not the same. I won't even give 500$ for what I saw. So, I'm really far of the 2K$ that BRP are asking for them.

Thanks !

The builtin backrest is within a small fraction of an inch of being the same distance to my drivers backrest as my, now old, detachable backrest. Nor does it have any noticeable forward lean when l look at it, or when i sit in the passengers seat.

you might find a dealer near you that has one on display

Hope this helps.

[Pirate looks at --]

Can someone tell me where to find the top case. I can find it on line anywhere!

[SpyderF3]

Can someone tell me where to find the top case. I can find it on line anywhere!

Did you try your dealer?

[Air Wing Guy]

Check out some of the luggage/ top cases we have on our discontinued page on our website. We have some real nice GIVI trunks that will also mount to our Luggage Rack at a great low price. If you have any questions on any of this luggage feel free to email us at sales@bakerbuiltairwings.com or find us online at www.bakerbuiltairwings.com.


I think I will just go with a Baker Built luggage rack and a generic top box. Only need the trunk for trips.
Probably $350 all in.

[Air Wing Guy]

I am not sure if we have what your looking for but if not you can check out our discontinued page on our website and see if there is something there you like. All of the luggage we have in stock is marked down to sell. We will be working only with GIVI drop shipping once this luggage is gone. We want to sell this because storage is limited. You can find us online at www.bakerbuiltairwings.com if you have any questions please feel free to email us at sales@bakerbuiltairwings.com


Can someone tell me where to find the top case. I can find it on line anywhere!

[hdmike58]

The speakers are included with the top case, however the amplifier is another option to activate the speakers, you will also need a USB key with the upload program to activate the speakers. I like the look and the additional storage, it has 2USB ports inside along with a LED light, the 3rd brake light and a heads up on the dash if the lid is not closed. When I ordered mine the dealer did tell me that I would need the side panels and asked what color I wanted them in.

Were you able to order the USB Key from your dealer? I just installed mine on my 2016 F3 LTD and when I turned it on to check the lighting, I only had rear speakers. Very loud rear speakers. My dealer is checking with BRP about the USB Key. I also had a dealer tell me this afternoon that they opened a case with BRP because the USB ports in the top case didn't work. They were told the 2016 harness doesn't run power to the rear USB ports. Neither one of mine are powered.

[SpyderF3]

Were you able to order the USB Key from your dealer? I just installed mine on my 2016 F3 LTD and when I turned it on to check the lighting, I only had rear speakers. Very loud rear speakers. My dealer is checking with BRP about the USB Key. I also had a dealer tell me this afternoon that they opened a case with BRP because the USB ports in the top case didn't work. They were told the 2016 harness doesn't run power to the rear USB ports. Neither one of mine are powered.

I took a virgin flash drive to the dealer and he down loaded the program to up date the radio, it has to be a brand new flash drive, not one you erased the info from, ask me how I know. Then you just follow the instructions and plug it in and it takes about 25 seconds to download and update the radio.
As far as the USB in the case, mine work only when the engine is running. My harness works fine, I was surprised also to see a warning on the heads up display when the rear cargo lid is not closed.

[hdmike58]

I took a virgin flash drive to the dealer and he down loaded the program to up date the radio, it has to be a brand new flash drive, not one you erased the info from, ask me how I know. Then you just follow the instructions and plug it in and it takes about 25 seconds to download and update the radio.
As far as the USB in the case, mine work only when the engine is running. My harness works fine, I was surprised also to see a warning on the heads up display when the rear cargo lid is not closed.

Thanks so much. I will check the USB's while running. The cargo lid warning was a nice surprise.

[armyspydervet]

Thanks so much. I will check the USB's while running. The cargo lid warning was a nice surprise.
Do your USB plugs work?

[hdmike58]

Do your USB plugs work?

No, they don't. The dealer told me BRP said the 2017 F3T would be ok but the 2016 F3T and F3LTD wouldn't have power to the USB's. He said separate wiring would need run to power the USB's.

[SpyderF3]

No, they don't. The dealer told me BRP said the 2017 F3T would be ok but the 2016 F3T and F3LTD wouldn't have power to the USB's. He said separate wiring would need run to power the USB's.

The wiring for the USB's is not part of the upgraded harness for the cargo box. It is in a black boot with 2-1/4" faston terminals and its labeled "customer accessory circuit". Its under the passenger seat.
I have the 2016F3T and its there143536143535

[hdmike58]

The wiring for the USB's is not part of the upgraded harness for the cargo box. It is in a black boot with 2-1/4" faston terminals and its labeled "customer accessory circuit". Its under the passenger seat.
I have the 2016F3T and its there143536143535

Thanks, again for the information. I have the wire. I must have missed that part in the installation instructions. I will reply with an update when I get it working.

[hdmike58]

The wiring for the USB's is not part of the upgraded harness for the cargo box. It is in a black boot with 2-1/4" faston terminals and its labeled "customer accessory circuit". Its under the passenger seat.
I have the 2016F3T and its there143536143535

SpyderF3 I can't thank you enough for the information. I should never assume anything. If I would have looked under the box I would have seen the pins. I assumed the USB's were powered by the new harness as there were no instructions to attach additional wires. Nice blue light when the USB's work. Thanks again.

[SpyderF3]

SpyderF3 I can't thank you enough for the information. I should never assume anything. If I would have looked under the box I would have seen the pins. I assumed the USB's were powered by the new harness as there were no instructions to attach additional wires. Nice blue light when the USB's work. Thanks again.

Glad I could help, this is a great site:2thumbs:

Now all ya need is a new flash drive and your dealer can download the radio update on it for you on it and take it home and you can do the update:yes:

[T.P.]

This is from a post Lamont made last Fall. It may help some people figure it out better.

http://www.lamonstergarage.com/news/spyder-2017-limited-top-case-information-and-removal-video/

T.P.

[spyder-dude]

Just got mine delivered today from Pitbull Powersports who had like 14 of them instock. My local dealer said it would be not available until April. My project for the next rainy day to install it!

Yes it is an expensive box but it is very nice and like it so much better than my 2014 RTS. :thumbup:

[hdmike58]

Received email from my dealer with the radio update file attached. Downloaded to USB drive and updated radio. Installed Lamonster's Big Bike shorty antenna. Swapped out black lid for a color matched lid. I think I finally have it the way I wanted...

[Peteoz]

Received email from my dealer with the radio update file attached. Downloaded to USB drive and updated radio. Installed Lamonster's Big Bike shorty antenna. Swapped out black lid for a color matched lid. I think I finally have it the way I wanted...

Looks good, Mike :thumbup: ......are you saying that the trunk lid comes in black when you order a white trunk, or have I misinterpreted that?

Pete

[hdmike58]

Looks good, Mike :thumbup: ......are you saying that the trunk lid comes in black when you order a white trunk, or have I misinterpreted that?

Pete

Yes, Pete, the trunk lid is gloss black. The trunk doesn't come with side panels.
You have to order the color
you want as an accessory ($200. USD). The lid is a replacement part of a 2017 F3 LTD
in white.

[Pirate looks at --]

Yes, Pete, the trunk lid is gloss black. The trunk doesn't come with side panels.
You have to order the color
you want as an accessory ($200. USD). The lid is a replacement part of a 2017 F3 LTD
in white.

All in what did the trunk cost you? And how easy is it to remove and add?

Thanks,

[hdmike58]

All in what did the trunk cost you? And how easy is it to remove and add?

Thanks,

The MSRP for the trunk ($1499.99),side panels ($199.99), amp ($299.99) and the matched lid ($235.) is $2,235. I got everything for just over $2000. The removal takes about 15 mins or so. It's 6 bolts, 3 electrical connections, and replacing the original tail panel. Not something I plan to do very often if at all. I wanted the extra storage.

[armyspydervet]

The MSRP for the trunk ($1499.99),side panels ($199.99), amp ($299.99) and the matched lid ($235.) is $2,235. I got everything for just over $2000. The removal takes about 15 mins or so. It's 6 bolts, 3 electrical connections, and replacing the original tail panel. Not something I plan to do very often if at all. I wanted the extra storage.

I just went online to order it and BRP wants $1625 on their site? Did they just up the price, or did I click something wrong? If they upped the price, that is some SHADY "shtuff." :mad::banghead:

[hdmike58]

I just went online to order it and BRP wants $1625 on their site? Did they just up the price, or did I click something wrong? If they upped the price, that is some SHADY "shtuff." :mad::banghead:

I agree. The price i used is from the BRP 2017 published accessory catalog. I have no idea where the $125 dollar difference came from. They raised the panel kit $15. and the amp kit $25 on the website also.

[spyder-dude]

I need help with this installation as these instructions are the absolute worst! Trying to figure out where the Subframe brace goes in the first step :banghead:

Can someone post a picture or video of this????? Or you can email to me at spyderdude@me.com

[hdmike58]

I need help with this installation as these instructions are the absolute worst! Trying to figure out where the Subframe brace goes in the first step :banghead:

Can someone post a picture or video of this????? Or you can email to me at spyderdude@me.com


I emailed 2 pics to you.

[spyder-dude]

Thanks much.

I must say this is the worst mod/upgrade that I have done on any of my 5 spyders.

The instructions are the worst and you would think for the amount of money this thing was they could spend money on better writers and also use color pictures....especially the fact they don't even print the instructions and make you download them.

[armyspydervet]

Would anyone be willing to do an installation video?

[SpyderF3]

Would anyone be willing to do an installation video?

Doesn't Lamonster have a removal video? The wiring harness is just remove and install the new one, and it does show the removal of the bracket he's wondering about.

[Peteoz]

Doesn't Lamonster have a removal video? The wiring harness is just remove and install the new one, and it does show the removal of the bracket he's wondering about.

Yep...the link is in TP's post #28 in this thread.

[armyspydervet]

Yep...the link is in TP's post #28 in this thread.
That video is a BRP advertisement. I would really consider it an install video

[Peteoz]

That video is a BRP advertisement. I would really consider it an install video

Did you REALLY watch the whole video? Of course it's a BRP advert, but it even shows you how to remove the subframe brace at the end. Anyone who can't figure out how to install the top box from the written instructions and the removal video should be taking it to their dealer to do.

[armyspydervet]

Did you REALLY watch the whole video? Of course it's a BRP advert, but it even shows you how to remove the subframe brace at the end. Anyone who can't figure out how to install the top box from the written instructions and the removal video should be taking it to their dealer to do.
Yep, thanks for your profound input. I figured there may be more to the install than putting the bracket in; could be wrong. There is the amp install, side panels and I'm not the only one searching for install guidance, not uninstall guidance. But appreciate your expertise. You must have installed a few?

[Peteoz]

Yep, thanks for your profound input. I figured there may be more to the install than putting the bracket in; could be wrong. There is the amp install, side panels and I'm not the only one searching for install guidance, not uninstall guidance. But appreciate your expertise. You must have installed a few?

Chris, the point I am making is that the attached video is all there is at the moment, and if you can't install from that and the instructions, maybe you should pay a pro to do it..........or did you want someone who has already installed the box to completely deinstall everything and reinstall it while videoing it? The members are very helpful here, but that might be taking it a bit far.

[loisk]

Pete, have you done this install?

I dont think we've even seen this item in Australia yet...

[Peteoz]

Pete, have you done this install?

I dont think we've even seen this item in Australia yet...

No Lois, I haven't done it. Only a few people have even received them, and they are in the US. That's why there are no videos available on how to do it yet, just the BRP removal demo and the written instructions.

[loisk]

Yeah - we're still waiting...n

Going by some of the brp instructions for things for our Rs, st and now f3, I have to comment that "there are no silly questions" - in our experience a little clue in interpreting the instructions is often all that is needed, not the dealer $. Spyderlovers is a great place for these little clues.

[SpyderF3]

Chris, the point I am making is that the attached video is all there is at the moment, and if you can't install from that and the instructions, maybe you should pay a pro to do it..........or did you want someone who has already installed the box to completely deinstall everything and reinstall it while videoing it? The members are very helpful here, but that might be taking it a bit far.

I agree with that, I had no problem with the instructions and I thought the OP didn't know where the bracket went and that's why I suggested the removal video because it shows that bracket coming out.

[spyder-dude]

BTW anyone looking for these top cases contact Blake at Pitbull Powersports as they had 14 of them in stock even though my dealer said they wouldn't be available until April!

[armyspydervet]

Anyone who installed this willing to send me the USB key file for the amp?

[TomG]

Doesn't Lamonster have a removal video? The wiring harness is just remove and install the new one, and it does show the removal of the bracket he's wondering about.

Actually the 'bracket' shown in removal video is not the bracket that is so confusing. The kit includes another bracket that reinforces the subframe and is mounted under the riders seat. It really is not directly related to the Top Case at all, except perhaps to compensate for the additional stress to the subframe that might occur due to exra weight so high and rearward.
Tom

[SpyderF3]

Actually the 'bracket' shown in removal video is not the bracket that is so confusing. The kit includes another bracket that reinforces the subframe and is mounted under the riders seat. It really is not directly related to the Top Case at all, except perhaps to compensate for the additional stress to the subframe that might occur due to exra weight so high and rearward.
Tom

If you remove the seat and the side panels you will see where it lays in and you have to drill 2 holes to mount it and the other 2 holes are already there. It strengthens the joint between the mid and rear frame.

[T.P.]

I picked up my top case from a local Minnesota dealer yesterday, My out the door price was $1799.99
Going to do the install myself.

T.P.

[Smokes]

They have arrived at the Canam dealer in Essendon, Melbourne, Australia, but are incomplete. The colour panels that will complete the topcase will not be available until June. This is a deal killer for me as I need it for a major trip late May.

[T.P.]

They have arrived at the Canam dealer in Essendon, Melbourne, Australia, but are incomplete. The colour panels that will complete the topcase will not be available until June. This is a deal killer for me as I need it for a major trip late May.

HEY SMOKES!! Get ahold of Blake at Pitbull Powersports and have them FEDX the correct color panels to you.

T.P.

[JDTOLLAND]

Hello
Well the instruction for installing the f3 top case were awful. I think I got most of it done but I have a question on the cargo harness. The new harness they have you install has two pink female connectors that come off it on the front part of the harness towards the front seat. I can not for the life of me see where they plug in. Can anyone help?

Thanks folks
J.D

[JDTOLLAND]

I figured it out the extra plugs there not necessary. They must be for another option .

J.D

[stebrock]

So I need a clarification.

is the wiring harness needed to connect the amp to the radio preinstalled in the 2016 F3 L?
If not how hard is it to add this harness?
Thanks, Rick

[KID Ryker]

Were you able to order the USB Key from your dealer? I just installed mine on my 2016 F3 LTD and when I turned it on to check the lighting, I only had rear speakers. Very loud rear speakers. My dealer is checking with BRP about the USB Key. I also had a dealer tell me this afternoon that they opened a case with BRP because the USB ports in the top case didn't work. They were told the 2016 harness doesn't run power to the rear USB ports. Neither one of mine are powered.

BS I have the 2016 F3T. I installed my rear box myself and mine works. Wiring is there

[stebrock]

BS I have the 2016 F3T. I installed my rear box myself and mine works. Wiring is there

I know there is wiring/power there for the usb connection but specifically the harness from rear speaker amp to radio is preinstalled?

[ARtraveler]

After reading all of this I am slowly being convinced that "less" is more. Currently have two RT's, but future bikes will not have top cases. I find I don't need them and am surely not willing to pay an additional $2K for them--even though they look very nice.