Trailering my Spyder RT?

[Tomline]

I Usually travel from Maine to Florida in the mid Fall (mid October) spend the majority of the winter there And then reverse the trip in the early Spring (late April). I bought a 6 by 12 foot trailer with a ramp rear door for my previous ride( 03 Honda VTS 1300) When I bought my 2012 Spyder RT I found out that I have to remove the front fenders to load & unload it because of the width of the rear door. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer. I know, the popular response to trailering it is "Ride It Down & Back" but with the weather and amount of "stuff" I bring back & forth that's not practicle. So how about it? Snowmobile trailer a possibility? TIA

[jaherbst]

I Usually travel from Maine to Florida in the mid Fall (mid October) spend the majority of the winter there And then reverse the trip in the early Spring (late April). I bought a 6 by 12 foot trailer with a ramp rear door for my previous ride( 03 Honda VTS 1300) When I bought my 2012 Spyder RT I found out that I have to remove the front fenders to load & unload it because of the width of the rear door. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer. I know, the popular response to trailering it is "Ride It Down & Back" but with the weather and amount of "stuff" I bring back & forth that's not practicle. So how about it? Snowmobile trailer a possibility? TIA



Anything you can get that sucker into will work just fine as long as the wheels don't fall off. If it were me I would sell the present trailer and get something more suitable. You can trade the trailer you have plus cash for whatever you would like. I would think that you would think of this.

​Jack

[Cruzr Joe]

Anything you can get that sucker into will work just fine as long as the wheels don't fall off. If it were me I would sell the present trailer and get something more suitable. You can trade the trailer you have plus cash for whatever you would like. I would think that you would think of this.

​Jack


One snow bird picking on another snowbird??? :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:

Anonymous

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I put my 2014 RT on my flatbed truck that has a box on it .... the width of the rear opening is 66 inches ....it's tight but it fits ...... What does the inside of your 6 ft. wide trailer measure ??????.......... Mike :thumbup: ....... PS , as far as tying it down, I put one heavy duty Nylon strap over the rear tire and Ratchet it down tight :yes:

[Deanna777]

The nylon strapping that (Mike Blueknight911) uses does not touch your Tupperware on your spyder. Deanna

[Bogie]

I have a 2 place, 7' X 14' enclosed tandem axle motorcycle trailer that I can drive my RT right into.
Haven't figured out how to get the RT 622 in there with it yet.


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[Bumble_B]

The nylon strapping that (Mike Blueknight911) uses does not touch your Tupperware on your spyder. Deanna


It worked well on our 2600 mile round trip. Only needed to retighten the strap ratchet 2x each way and the Spyder never moved an inch.

[Deanna777]

It worked well on our 2600 mile round trip. Only needed to retighten the strap ratchet 2x each way and the Spyder never moved an inch.
He trailed my 2012 RTS-SE5 and used the strap to secure my spyder. Also the spyder did not move. The strap went under the spyder , in the "middle" of the rear tire and "under" to the front of the snowmobile trailer.

The strap was hitched to the front of the snowmobile trailer.

My spyder did not move either. Deanna

[timeless]

I Usually travel from Maine to Florida in the mid Fall (mid October) spend the majority of the winter there And then reverse the trip in the early Spring (late April). I bought a 6 by 12 foot trailer with a ramp rear door for my previous ride( 03 Honda VTS 1300) When I bought my 2012 Spyder RT I found out that I have to remove the front fenders to load & unload it because of the width of the rear door. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer. I know, the popular response to trailering it is "Ride It Down & Back" but with the weather and amount of "stuff" I bring back & forth that's not practicle. So how about it? Snowmobile trailer a possibility? TIA

I use a 7 x 12 enclosed, have for 6years, mine is a 2010 PE RTSE5 and fits nicely. I can even strap it down via the factory D rings on the floor. I built a 3 shelf unit in the nose for "things" necessary or not. it works out pretty well, i carry an air compressor, jack, spare parts for the bike & motor home & etc.


:yes:

[Bob Denman]

You can call me strange... I'd rather just ride the bike down first, fly back, and then bring the rest of the stuff! :thumbup:
You just need a little bit larger trailer. nojoke

[Cleg]

I put my 2014 RT on my flatbed truck that has a box on it .... the width of the rear opening is 66 inches ....it's tight but it fits ...... What does the inside of your 6 ft. wide trailer measure ??????.......... Mike :thumbup: ....... PS , as far as tying it down, I put one heavy duty Nylon strap over the rear tire and Ratchet it down tight :yes:
:yikes: Only one tie down? Don't you worry about the proverbial bounce of the front end? Just sayin....

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

:yikes: Only one tie down? Don't you worry about the proverbial bounce of the front end? Just sayin....
I made a left turn over one of those RAISED center dividers ( in the dark ) and of course I checked it out in the parking lot nearby ....... everything checked out OK ..... I do have a 1 1/2 in. guide on the inside of both front wheels because my BOX only has 2 in. clearance on either side of the front fenders ....... Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

Mike,
How do you climb up onto the bike, for unloading it?
(We're gonna have to see pictures! :D)

[jaherbst]

One snow bird picking on another snowbird??? :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:

Anonymous

I did not intentionally mean to pick on anyone and I am not one of those pesky "Snowbirds". I am a el permenente' el residente' of the "Old Pueblo" here in the Tucson AZ area. Yes I am a "legal" resident and do not need a green card. Why would I? Senior' Juan does not want to work anymore!

​Juan

[Pirate looks at --]

You can call me strange... I'd rather just ride the bike down first, fly back, and then bring the rest of the stuff! :thumbup:
You just need a little bit larger trailer. nojoke

Bob's right, that motorcycle was made for long distance touring, let her rip! You would probably find that you don't deal need all that stuff by the time you get down there! You could also just sell the trailer and ship your stuff and pocket a lot of cash, and the memories of the ryde will be priceless!:yes::yes:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike,
How do you climb up onto the bike, for unloading it?
(We're gonna have to see pictures! :D)
If you are asking about when it's in/on the truck ????.... I made the box 6'4" ( height ) inside, so I just climb on and back it down ..... the guides screwed onto the floor ramps prevent the wheels from any sideways movement - think ...... Car Wash ....... sorry no video available :yikes::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:.......... .... Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: That has got to be a VERY tight fit... nojoke

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

:shocked: That has got to be a VERY tight fit... nojoke
OOP'S.... the 6'4" is the height ...... the width is 2 inches for each fender, that's why I put in the guides .... Mike :thumbup:

[pegasus1300]

I Usually travel from Maine to Florida in the mid Fall (mid October) spend the majority of the winter there And then reverse the trip in the early Spring (late April). I bought a 6 by 12 foot trailer with a ramp rear door for my previous ride( 03 Honda VTS 1300) When I bought my 2012 Spyder RT I found out that I have to remove the front fenders to load & unload it because of the width of the rear door. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer. I know, the popular response to trailering it is "Ride It Down & Back" but with the weather and amount of "stuff" I bring back & forth that's not practicle. So how about it? Snowmobile trailer a possibility? TIA

As long as the trailer is wider then the Spyder and longer then the Spyder,it sounds like a good why to get it, your stuff, and you back and forth. Don't listen to those who try to tell what to do with your life you do what you need to do. If I have some place I want to go and for some reason I can't ride it there but want access to it when I get there,I have no qualms about trailering.

[Bob Denman]

OOP'S.... the 6'4" is the height ...... the width is 2 inches for each fender, that's why I put in the guides .... Mike :thumbup:
Oh! I was referring to the tight fit you must experience; when climbing in there to get on the RT... :bowdown:

If you hadn't been in Law Enforcement: you'd have made a great burglar! :joke:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Oh! I was referring to the tight fit you must experience; when climbing in there to get on the RT... :bowdown:

If you hadn't been in Law Enforcement: you'd have made a great burglar! :joke:
Well do to age I'm shrinking :roflblack: ... 5"11" now .... I don't really think about hitting my head when I get on / off in the Box ......................annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd actually being an LEO taught me how to be a GREAT burglar :yes:, I've gotten into more cars and homes ( to help people ) than you might think possible :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: ..... Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

:D If you were doing it to help yourself :shocked:: you would still have been in Law Enforcement.... but from the other side of the bars! :yikes:

[Alabamacrussr]

141434

[Alabamacrussr]

141439141440 easy to load on a hill or flat ground. Pulls really nice. http://razortrailers.com/

[Cruzr Joe]

I did not intentionally mean to pick on anyone and I am not one of those pesky "Snowbirds". I am a el permenente' el residente' of the "Old Pueblo" here in the Tucson AZ area. Yes I am a "legal" resident and do not need a green card. Why would I? Senior' Juan does not want to work anymore!

​Juan


LOL :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflb lack:

Anonymous

[Bensonoid]

easy to load on a hill or flat ground. Pulls really nice. http://razortrailers.com/
That is a beauty.

[marty1096]

Any suggestions other than a 7x14 and stagger them, because that doesn't work. I tried with an enclosed 7x14 "Lowhauler". Looking at Cyclone 4018 which is 17.5. Does anyone have one of those that is 17.5 or 18ft. How do you like it? What do you like? I like the separate garage area other than the open room design smelling tires and gas in the living area.

[JoDot]

I am thinking of getting a trailer to tow my Spyder. Looking at a 6'x8' with ramp on the back. Here may be my problem. I have a 2016 Buick Casada convertible with a 4 cyl turbocharger. Wil the Buick have enough power to pull the trailer with thr Spyder on it?

[Frank G]

Solved our snowbird travel issues.:ohyea:

[rhauk]

As avid snowmobiler in WI for many years, have had several two-up snowmobile trailers. The advantage is that almost all s'trailers have accompanying ramps to load a machine...drive on, back off or ramp in front to drive off. Also have the choice of going covered trailer or open...covered is great as they are virtually weather proof and enough under cover space to haul other essentials. I also have an open 7' x 12' aluminum trailer which I used to trailer my RT out to western SD before touring WY this past summer. A double fold drop down ramp and D-rings made loading and securing an easy process. A 2x4 front parking block secured to the floor and web straps thru the front wheels made for a secure tie-down. A web strap thru the rear wheel ( need to be clear of valve stem ) finished the tie-down process. Anyway...any trailer will work if you can get your RT on/off easily and able to secure adequately....

[Indyron]

. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer.

Had a Triton snowmobile trailer, held two snowmobiles/ATVs. No go on the Spyder, not tall enough for windshield.

[Zip]

141617

This is my trailer which works great, don't have to worry about anybody messing with it when it's parked.

[jaherbst]

Any suggestions other than a 7x14 and stagger them, because that doesn't work. I tried with an enclosed 7x14 "Lowhauler". Looking at Cyclone 4018 which is 17.5. Does anyone have one of those that is 17.5 or 18ft. How do you like it? What do you like? I like the separate garage area other than the open room design smelling tires and gas in the living area.

Marty, I have a 30' foot Work and Play by Forrest River without a separate garage area. Probably 15,000 + miles and never a gas smell. If you smell gas you are over filling the Spyder (never fill before towing), gas leak of either the gas cap seal or line. I have towed with motorcycles, Polaris ranger and Can am Spyder and Side by Side Maverick. Never any gas smells.

Jack

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

. I was wondering if there was some way to haul it using an enclosed snowmobile trailer.

Had a Triton snowmobile trailer, held two snowmobiles/ATVs. No go on the Spyder, not tall enough for windshield.
Takes only about 5 to 10 minutes to remove the windshield.

[SpyderF3]

I just ran into the same problem and got a bigger trailer, why are my pics laying down?

[marty1096]

141617

This is my trailer which works great, don't have to worry about anybody messing with it when it's parked.
Holds 2 RT's

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[marty1096]

Marty, I have a 30' foot Work and Play by Forrest River without a separate garage area. Probably 15,000 + miles and never a gas smell. If you smell gas you are over filling the Spyder (never fill before towing), gas leak of either the gas cap seal or line. I have towed with motorcycles, Polaris ranger and Can am Spyder and Side by Side Maverick. Never any gas smells.

Jack
Thanks I am in sell off and research mode. Thanks for info on Forest River. That was one I looked at online last nite.

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[marty1096]

Thanks I am in sell off and research mode. Thanks for info on Forest River. That was one I looked at online last nite.

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What are you using to pull that 30 ft. It's a fifth wheel? Will a F250 pull it?

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[marty1096]

I have a 2 place, 7' X 14' enclosed tandem axle motorcycle trailer that I can drive my RT right into.
Haven't figured out how to get the RT 622 in there with it yet.


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I have a 7 x 14 v nosed low hauler, need room for another RTS

[Frank G]

I have a 7 x 14 v nosed low hauler, need room for another RTS

To help answer your question about hauling 2 RT's in a toy hauler let me suggest you start by laing out the garage portion on the driveway with chalk, 2x4's or whatever. Widest would be about 96" for a 102" wide trailer. Setting nose to tail you would need about 20 ft allowing for some walk around room. Now, start cramming them in a shorter space to see what you are comfortable with. Remember you have to tie them down and walls don't move. I tried backing up the ramp on mine and it did not work, tire spin.

There are more manufactures making Toy Haulers every year, so you have a lot to choose from. Not every dealer will carry every Forest River product line. Have fun shopping.

In an earlier post you ask about a tow vehicle, This is not an easy answer. I will add a link to Ford's towing Guide, every manufacturer publishes one. As general information, fifth wheel toy hauler will require a properly equipped F-350 or F-450 for the larger ones

http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

Keep asking questions, also you can use Forest River Forums for information.

[jaherbst]

Thanks I am in sell off and research mode. Thanks for info on Forest River. That was one I looked at online last nite.

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JFYI Scottsdale RV has them in stock and are a dealer. I bought my last one from them.

​Jack

[marty1096]

I just ran into the same problem and got a bigger trailer, why are my pics laying down?
My hubby wants to know is it legal to pull a trailer behinda 7 x 14 lowhauler? And is your 7 x 14 hitch or gooseneck?

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[marty1096]

Thanks you! We are in West valley but travel anywhere to look or buy.

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[Jim&Teresa]

I use it for EITHER the Spyder or the Gold Wing. I must use the center position for the Gold Wing as it will not fit on the left or right side of the trailer due to length. We trailer our 2014 RT Limited with no problem with this trailer and it "noses" up in the V part of the trailer against our 20" stone guard (which is optional). The 4 pictures added at bottom were just a couple months ago....note that I do NOT transport with the cover on it. I only cover the Spyder when leaving it out overnight! Also, all the tie down straps were removed at this time as it was parked.

From an earlier post of mine:
We use a Droptail trailer. I really like that it folds and stores upright in the garage and NO ramps needed - built in. Works well for the Spyder with the low clearance. The back of the trailer hydraulically lowers and the built in rear gate folds down to extend the ramp portion. Easy to use. Our Spyder RT just fits and the nose of the Spyder fits in the V part of the front of the trailer. Not a lot of spare room, but works well. The Spyder fills the whole trailer even though this is a "two up" motorcycle trailer. A bonus for us is that our Gold Wing can be hauled on this trailer (with the use of the wheel chock that is included with the trailer) as well - however, only one bike at a time (unless you have two - 2 wheel motorcycles that are "short" enough). There is a standard 8 inch stone guard and an optional 20" stone guard. I did add the 20" stone guard on our trailer. Also, we purchased an optional spare tire which bolts to the bottom of the trailer. It has a steel frame with an aluminum deck with lots of tie down points!

Here's some info on the model number and a few pics: Drop - Tail "Two - Up" Cruiser / Sport Bike Trailer, model number: 03-DCT2200-02
Get the dimensions and literature: http://www.droptailtrailers.com/ (http://www.droptailtrailers.com/)

Good luck on your choice of trailers - there are a lot of good trailers out there that work!! :thumbup:


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[marty1096]

To help answer your question about hauling 2 RT's in a toy hauler let me suggest you start by laing out the garage portion on the driveway with chalk, 2x4's or whatever. Widest would be about 96" for a 102" wide trailer. Setting nose to tail you would need about 20 ft allowing for some walk around room. Now, start cramming them in a shorter space to see what you are comfortable with. Remember you have to tie them down and walls don't move. I tried backing up the ramp on mine and it did not work, tire spin.

There are more manufactures making Toy Haulers every year, so you have a lot to choose from. Not every dealer will carry every Forest River product line. Have fun shopping.

In an earlier post you ask about a tow vehicle, This is not an easy answer. I will add a link to Ford's towing Guide, every manufacturer publishes one. As general information, fifth wheel toy hauler will require a properly equipped F-350 or F-450 for the larger ones

http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

Keep asking questions, also you can use Forest River Forums for information.
I looked at a cy3418. Did not like food plan. Heartland Cyclone. Cy4018 17.5 ft separated with a sliding glass patio door garage is the only one somewhat long enough. His bike is 108 in long mine 105in. 213in/12in

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[marty1096]

JFYI Scottsdale RV has them in stock and are a dealer. I bought my last one from them.

​Jack
He called me yesterday. I went bike riding. I plan on calling him back today. Thanks.

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[ibuycars]

i use a haulmark 6x12 enclosed trailer with ramp my 14 rt fits inside without taking fenders off

[Frank G]

I looked at a cy3418. Did not like food plan. Heartland Cyclone. Cy4018 17.5 ft separated with a sliding glass patio door garage is the only one somewhat long enough. His bike is 108 in long mine 105in. 213in/12in

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Interesting Toy Hauler. With the Happijac beds in the upper position you will have the full width to work with. With a little stagier...backing the back one in, they should fit. Make sure it comes with the Patio kit. :coffee::bbq:

That unit is a real commitment, a real financial hit, driving requirements (it's as large as a semi rig), parking requirements at home and in RV parks.

Let the adventure begin!:ohyea:

[marty1096]

He is a semi driver who is not going to be happy at home. Rode and rides 2 wheeler victory Cross country. But I am looking to future and foresee a time his 2013 will be replaced by a Spyder. Need something that will hold two rts. CY 4018 so far is only one with sealed off garage big enough. CY 3418 was the same as living in a garage. 18 ft garage.

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[marty1096]

Backing in the saddle bags on both bikes come into play.

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[Frank G]

Backing in the saddle bags on both bikes come into play.

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Since you are having difficulty finding a stock Toy Hauler for your two spyders take a look at a custom Featherlite Trailer with living quarters. I would vision a loading and stacking system in the rear similar to a Nascar Hauler, and living quarters up front.

Check out this Grand Designs unit with an 18 ft. garage.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2017/toy-hauler/momentum/floorplans/398m

[marty1096]

We looked at and educated ourselves today. One a 44RLS forest river work and play, is in Tuscon 20 ft cargo length. It has a sliding glass door that separates the garage from living area.

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[marty1096]

Looked at Genesis 40GS and a something ss6 by Genesis. Sorry tired can't remember the exact model number. We looked at a Vengeance 424V22 I don't like that floor plan but it would work. I have looked at even though tired tonight your great suggestion of 398m. Since we both like it and like the floorplan we figured it would high dollar. However you sometimes get what you pay for. LOL I just have to make sure 18ft is actually 18ft. There is a location near me in West valley. Checking to see if they are open.

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[marty1096]

We also looked at some that just didn't work. We know more now than we did this morning and we know what we definitely don't want. Thanks for your help.

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[Frank G]

Loading Spyder's into trailers requires a lot of attention to avoid unwanted damage. Especially the first time.

When approaching the loading ramp the nose of the Spyder may hit the ramp before the front wheels hit the ramp. A simple solution I and others have used is to attach a 2 ft 2 X 6 on top of a 3 ft 2 x 6 (centered), place one end under the ramp door in the path of the front wheels. This allows the front on the Spyder to lift and avoid the nose bump.

The other issue is bottoming out when crossing the transition at the top of the ramp. You may or may not have this issue. My solution was to pump up the air suspension.

All trailers are different and just wanted to throw this out so there are no surprises. It would be nice if you could do a test load prior to purchase.

[jaherbst]

I like to put a 4X4 under the loading ramp end and then a split lengthwise 5/8th's piece of plywood. I do this after I run the front jack up all the way to the stops. This prevents any damage to the nose or the underbelly of the Spyder or ripping the trim off the bottom of the loading ramp.

Forrest River Work and Play 25WLB (30 foot) tongue pull. Love this trailer! Nice separate bedroom in front and living area that is plush with two HappyJack beds. Built in generator, ducted furnace, ducted air conditioning etc.

Jack

[marty1096]

Loading Spyder's into trailers requires a lot of attention to avoid unwanted damage. Especially the first time.

When approaching the loading ramp the nose of the Spyder may hit the ramp before the front wheels hit the ramp. A simple solution I and others have used is to attach a 2 ft 2 X 6 on top of a 3 ft 2 x 6 (centered), place one end under the ramp door in the path of the front wheels. This allows the front on the Spyder to lift and avoid the nose bump.

The other issue is bottoming out when crossing the transition at the top of the ramp. You may or may not have this issue. My solution was to pump up the air suspension.

All trailers are different and just wanted to throw this out so there are no surprises. It would be nice if you could do a test load prior to purchase.
Yes I was thinking of asking if I could do a test load before purchase. Doest hurt to ask.

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[marty1096]

I like to put a 4X4 under the loading ramp end and then a split lengthwise 5/8th's piece of plywood. I do this after I run the front jack up all the way to the stops. This prevents any damage to the nose or the underbelly of the Spyder or ripping the trim off the bottom of the loading ramp.

Forrest River Work and Play 25WLB (30 foot) tongue pull. Love this trailer! Nice separate bedroom in front and living area that is plush with two HappyJack beds. Built in generator, ducted furnace, ducted air conditioning etc.

Jack
Thank you I will print off the info to this one and add it to our folder of rv's

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[marty1096]

We know definitely we want:
5th wheel
Separated garage
Tri axle

Higher R value insulation
Ability to stand upright in bedroom. Can't do the crawl up thing.
Onan generator
Auto leveling
Ability to garage 2rts's
We aren't asking for much lol
He built himself online a GMC 350 duramax diesel with an Allison tranny.

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[marty1096]

It's just us two. We are antisocial. We don't throw parties and all our immediate family is dead. Not interested in a lot of beds chairs and tables and 5 TV's or latest entertainment center for the garage. We don't argue so he doesn't need to have entertainment center anywhere else but the bedroom and dinette area.

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[marty1096]

And maybe not even the bedroom. We are usually tired and don't look at TV in bedroom even at home.

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We are old, and proud we are old. LOL 😀

Thank you I will print off the info to this one and add it to our folder of rv's

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It's just us two. We are antisocial. We don't throw parties and all our immediate family is dead. Not interested in a lot of beds chairs and tables and 5 TV's or latest entertainment center for the garage. We don't argue so he doesn't need to have entertainment center anywhere else but the bedroom and dinette area.

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[marty1096]

http://www.fthr.com/products/recreational-trailers/toy-hauler

http://www.fthr.com/products/recreational-trailers/motorcycle/1610-motorcycle-trailer

[WA5VHU]

We know definitely we want:
...He built himself online a GMC 350 duramax diesel with an Allison tranny.

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If you get something like the Momentum 398M trailer you start out with an advertised average dry weight of 15,100 lbs. and that is usually before the manufacturer adds any "options", real or imagined, such as the refrigerator, heaters, air conditioners, etc., even if these "options" normally come with every trailer they sell. Beware!


At 15,100 lbs, with nothing in the trailer, you are at 65% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


Add two Spyders and you are now up to at least 17,124 lbs.


Now you are at 74% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


Add your "stuff" you want to take with you - how much weight? Food and drinks, dishes, silverware, towels, rugs, tools, TV's, laptops, lawn chairs, portable grill, and a bag of charcoal, even the linens and pillows on the bed - it all adds up. If you are only going out for the weekends you can get by with a lot less stuff if you work at it but if you are going out for extended trips then the desire to take more stuff is really strong.

Let's add 1,000 lbs for all your "stuff", now at 18,124 lbs.


You are now at about 78% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


You shouldn't, but if you did fill the trailer with fresh water (with the smaller tank) and had the gray and waste tanks full you are now at 20,402 and are 402 lbs over the GVWR ratings of the trailer.


At 20,402 lbs you are now at 88% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


I have already made my comments about using a pickup truck for towing large and heavy RV trailers in an earlier post in this thread so I will let you come to your own conclusions on the above numbers. You can run your own numbers for other truck/trailer combinations.

Be safe out there...

Charles

[Frank G]

It's just us two. We are antisocial. We don't throw parties and all our immediate family is dead. Not interested in a lot of beds chairs and tables and 5 TV's or latest entertainment center for the garage. We don't argue so he doesn't need to have entertainment center anywhere else but the bedroom and dinette area.

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I thought Me and the wife were the two most antisocial people in the world, yep, new years eve watching the Ohio state game and posting on forums.:gaah: Waiting for the Ball to drop, thinking everything trapped in Times Sq. is trying out the latest Depends under garments. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

Maybe a sip of Jack later and off to bed... Happy New Year! :yes::yes::yes:

[marty1096]

I thought Me and the wife were the two most antisocial people in the world, yep, new years eve watching the Ohio state game and posting on forums.:gaah: Waiting for the Ball to drop, thinking everything trapped in Times Sq. is trying out the latest Depends under garments. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

Maybe a sip of Jack later and off to bed... Happy New Year! :yes::yes::yes:
Us too only no football. Thanks so much for the 398M suggestion. Looks like a go. Thanks again.[emoji2] happy new year to you and yours!

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[Frank G]

Take a look at Classie Chassis for your tow vehicle.

http://www.classychassistrucks.com/

They have been around a long time, will understand your requirements, color matched, and be totally set up with hitches. I personally think you are looking at a MDT for a 20,000 lb. pull.

Just a thought.

[marty1096]

We saw it today. Sat in it asks questions. I saw his face as he kicked back with his feet propped up. It's a go. I just have to do the process...Get ready. It's a real estate loan. 240 months. I hope we can get in position before interest rates go up.

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[marty1096]

Take a look at Classie Chassis for your tow vehicle.

http://www.classychassistrucks.com/

They have been around a long time, will understand your requirements, color matched, and be totally set up with hitches. I personally think you are looking at a MDT for a 20,000 lb. pull.

Just a thought.

not familiar with the phrase...muscle diesel truck?

[Frank G]

not familiar with the phrase...muscle diesel truck?

Medium Duty Truck, A step above the 3500

[marty1096]

[QUOTE=marty1096;1213766]Rear wheel ratio change. Ford can configure a f 350 dually that will pull 30000 when properly configured. http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/ we don't need a f450

[marty1096]

If you get something like the Momentum 398M trailer you start out with an advertised average dry weight of 15,100 lbs. and that is usually before the manufacturer adds any "options", real or imagined, such as the refrigerator, heaters, air conditioners, etc., even if these "options" normally come with every trailer they sell. Beware!


At 15,100 lbs, with nothing in the trailer, you are at 65% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


Add two Spyders and you are now up to at least 17,124 lbs.


Now you are at 74% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


Add your "stuff" you want to take with you - how much weight? Food and drinks, dishes, silverware, towels, rugs, tools, TV's, laptops, lawn chairs, portable grill, and a bag of charcoal, even the linens and pillows on the bed - it all adds up. If you are only going out for the weekends you can get by with a lot less stuff if you work at it but if you are going out for extended trips then the desire to take more stuff is really strong.

Let's add 1,000 lbs for all your "stuff", now at 18,124 lbs.


You are now at about 78% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


You shouldn't, but if you did fill the trailer with fresh water (with the smaller tank) and had the gray and waste tanks full you are now at 20,402 and are 402 lbs over the GVWR ratings of the trailer.


At 20,402 lbs you are now at 88% of the tow rating of that pickup truck.


I have already made my comments about using a pickup truck for towing large and heavy RV trailers in an earlier post in this thread so I will let you come to your own conclusions on the above numbers. You can run your own numbers for other truck/trailer combinations.

Be safe out there...

Charles


http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

[WA5VHU]

[QUOTE=marty1096;1213766]Rear wheel ratio change. Ford can configure a f 350 dually that will pull 30000 when properly configured. http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/ we don't need a f450

http://www.jackdanmayer.com/choosing_between_an_mdt_and_an_hdt.htm

[marty1096]

[QUOTE=marty1096;1213782]

http://www.jackdanmayer.com/choosing_between_an_mdt_and_an_hdt.htm

it says, "In more recent years the pickup class has greatly expanded their towing capacities. With the advent of what I call the "super pickups" - like the Ford F450/F550, and the newer Dodge 3500/5500 - you can pull most of the larger 5th wheels. These are worth considering if you are pulling a 5er in the sub-23,000 lb range. Over that and you will be far better served with an MDT or an HDT."

we are pulling a max of 20,000...really only 18000 that includes my weight, his weight, 3 containers of water full and my bike and his bike. We have a washer and dryer...so wont take tons of clothes or shoes. I am not a girlie girl, I don't travel with tons of stuff I don't need, less is more in my eyes...so I think a f350 with the gear ratio change or a 450 will be just fine for what we are towing...but talk to me two years from now after I have done it...I might tell you something different..
28400 towing capacity with a 3.55axle ratio or
32000 towing capacity with a 4.10axle ratio super cab f350 4x2 (2017) the articles you referred me to are 2013 articles. HD trucks appears to have changed for the better especially the diesels....


http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty...ations/towing (http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/)
















SUPER DUTY Specifications











Conventional Towing - Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight Ratings (lbs.)






Regular Cab
Super Cab
Crew Cab


Engine with Automatic Transmission
Rear Axle
Axle Ratio
MAX GCWR (lbs.)
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-450 4x4


6.2 L Gas V8
SRW
3.73
19,500
13,300
12,900
13,100
12,600
13,000
12,600
12,900
12,400
12,900
12,500
12,700
12,300
-



SRW
4.30
28,700
14,000
15,000
14,000
15,000
14,000
15,000
14,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
-



DRW
3.73
20,000
-
-
13,200
12,700
-
-
12,700
12,300
-
-
12,500
12,100
-



DRW
4.30
23,500
-
-
16,700
16,200
-
-
16,200
15,800
-
-
16,000
15,600
-


6.7L Power Stroke Turbo Diesel V8
SRW
3.31
28,700
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
18,000
17,600
18,000
18,000
-



SRW
3.55
28,700
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
15,000
18,000
17,600
18,000
18,000
-



DRW
3.55
36,000
-
-
21,000
20,000
-
-
21,000
21,000
-
-
21,000
21,000
-



DRW
4.10
40,000
-
-
21,000
20,000
-
-
21,000
21,000
-
-
21,000
21,000
-



DRW
4.30
41,800
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
21,000





5th Wheel Gooseneck Towing - Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight Ratings (lbs.)*






Regular Cab
Super Cab
Crew Cab


Engine with Automatic Transmission
Rear Axle
Axle Ratio
MAX GCWR (lbs.)
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-250 4x2
F-250 4x4
F-350 4x2
F-350 4x4
F-450 4x4


6.2 L Gas V8
SRW
3.73
19,500
13,200
12,800
13,000
12,600
13,000
12,600
12,800
12,400
12,900
12,500
12,700
12,200
-



SRW
4.30
28,700
15,700
15,300
16,500
16,100
15,500
15,100
16,300
15,900
15,400
15,000
16,200
15,700
-



DRW
3.73
20,000
-
-
13,100
12,700
-
-
12,700
12,300
-
-
12,500
12,100
-



DRW
4.30
23,500
-
-
16,700
16,200
-
-
16,200
15,800
-
-
16,000
15,600
-


6.7L Power Stroke Turbo Diesel V8
SRW
3.31
28,700
18,600
16,500
21,500
21,100
17,400
15,400
21,300
20,900
16,800
14,700
21,000
20,600
-



SRW
3.55
28,700
18,600
16,500
21,500
21,100
17,400
15,400
21,300
20,900
16,800
14,700
21,000
20,600
-



DRW
3.55
36,000
-
-
28,400
27,900
-
-
28,000
27,600
-
-
27,700
27,300
-



DRW
4.10
40,000
-
-
32,000
31,900
-
-
32,000
31,600
-
-
31,700
31,300
-



DRW
4.30
41,800
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
32,500


* 5th wheel hitch rated to a maximum of 27,500 lbs.