Windshield Again - Page 2

Putt-Putt · 11-13-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeuchler

I have become a fan of altering stock, or "modifying the mod."

I haven't tried as many shields as Brian has, but I cut my F1 down four times now, and rebent it--at the time it felt like it was a radical bend.

After this past Sunday's test ride, I'm content. It was 39 degrees in New England, and the new modded mod worked great.

I just cut it with a jig saw (low speed), then ground it down with a belt sander little by little:

How did you bend it? Did you just do the top or from the base where it mounts to the spyder. This is where I'd like to bend mine if possible at the base.

NancysToy · 11-14-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Putt-Putt

How did you bend it? Did you just do the top or from the base where it mounts to the spyder. This is where I'd like to bend mine if possible at the base.

This is going to be a lot more difficult. You could change the mounting hole spacing very easily. If it was bent while on the Spyder, you could damage other parts with the heat, and could actually need to stretch the plastic of the windshield to obtain the bend you want. I'd have to want to do this real, real bad to take the chance. Why don't you like it so close? I always thought one of the drawbacks of the Spyder shields were that they were located so far forward, so the wind came back over them and hit the rider. Seems to me that closer would be better.
-Scotty

Putt-Putt · 11-14-2008, 09:04 AM

1. The vents in the shield rub on the spyder dash.
2. It comes back so far you have to be carefull not to hit your face and or helmet shield on it when getting on and off the spyder.
3. bending it forward would raise the shield to give you better wind protection. As it is it comes to about my chin.

And I agree that it might damage the dash with the heat gun thats why I haven't done it yet. Unless someone has a good idea of how to do it.

tatt2r · 11-14-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Putt-Putt

1. The vents in the shield rub on the spyder dash.
2. It comes back so far you have to be carefull not to hit your face and or helmet shield on it when getting on and off the spyder.
3. bending it forward would raise the shield to give you better wind protection. As it is it comes to about my chin.

And I agree that it might damage the dash with the heat gun thats why I haven't done it yet. Unless someone has a good idea of how to do it.

throw it away.....that was my idea.....

and just my opinion don't like windshields....

jeuchler · 11-17-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Putt-Putt

How did you bend it? Did you just do the top or from the base where it mounts to the spyder. This is where I'd like to bend mine if possible at the base.

Putt--

I cut everywhere except the base. I bent (hard) at the top to make a new lip. See the pics in the post above...

Spydr in KS · 11-17-2008, 10:40 PM

I have an F1 Evo III Shorty. It had no bend at the top. After a few miles I was a beat up bobble head. I decided to "tune" it per the F1 web site with a heat gun. It heats slowly and I didn't detect any danger of melting. After about ten minute of heating and trying to bend I was able to start bending and for a nice flair at the top. It was easy and made a huge difference. I now love the look and ride of the shield. No really tall toenail looking shields for me!

Dave

bjt · 11-18-2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spydr in KS

I have an F1 Evo III Shorty. It had no bend at the top. After a few miles I was a beat up bobble head. I decided to "tune" it per the F1 web site with a heat gun. It heats slowly and I didn't detect any danger of melting. After about ten minute of heating and trying to bend I was able to start bending and for a nice flair at the top. It was easy and made a huge difference. I now love the look and ride of the shield. No really tall toenail looking shields for me!

Dave

Hey Spyder in KS, do you have a picture of your Spyder with the Evo III shorty on it? I imagine it looks pretty good on the Spyder but I would like to actually see it.

Putt-Putt · 11-18-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeuchler

Putt--

I cut everywhere except the base. I bent (hard) at the top to make a new lip. See the pics in the post above...

But what did you use to heat it; to be able to bend it.
I tried a heat gun for a couple of minutes. Kinda afraid i'd melt it. But to go all the way across at the base from right to left I would think it would cool off too much on the side you started heating on to bend it even. Any suggestions?

Spydr in KS · 11-18-2008, 10:06 PM

Here are a few pictures of my F1 Evoluation Shorty. The first is before I tuned it and the second is after using a heat gun to bend the top. See the F1 web site for videos of how to do it. Keep the heat gun moving back and forth across the area you want to bend. Heat the outside and inside. It took longer than I thought. It was a good ten minutes to build enough heat to allow flexing the windshield to the shape I wanted. It bent very slowly and took some force to move it. With the heat gun I just don't see a danger of melting the shield or getting it so hot you would lose the shape.

bjt · 11-19-2008, 08:00 PM

jeuchler · 11-21-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spydr in KS

...See the F1 web site for videos of how to do it. Keep the heat gun moving back and forth across the area you want to bend. Heat the outside and inside. It took longer than I thought. It was a good ten minutes to build enough heat to allow flexing the windshield to the shape I wanted. It bent very slowly and took some force to move it. With the heat gun I just don't see a danger of melting the shield or getting it so hot you would lose the shape.

Yup.

There was no melting nor distortion (I was afraid at first, too) but I held the shield horizontally by the lip and let the weight of the rest of the shield bend itself back.

arachnomania · 12-01-2008, 08:54 PM

So I put on the cal sci 25" about a week after buying the spyder, all together a totally diffrent ride now. At 6'4" I am able to look over the top the way I like, have no wind pressure on my chest and don't really notice any bobble head. Still have some wind noise but can tell most of the wind is going just over my head. I personally would not like one any higher because of line of sight, but if I duck down all wind noise disappears... however don't like riding crouched down.

Spyderjuice · 12-01-2008, 11:36 PM

"... have no wind pressure on my chest and don't really notice any bobble head. Still have some wind noise but can tell most of the wind is going just over my head. I personally would not like one any higher because of line of sight, but if I duck down all wind noise disappears... however don't like riding crouched down.

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Arachnomania, or anyone with this shield...

Do you get or do you notice any wind coming through the hole "vent" in the windshield? Or maybe noise from there? How about bugs?

Juice

Spyderjuice · 12-02-2008, 02:07 PM

Bump, Anyone?

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Originally Posted by Spyderjuice

"... have no wind pressure on my chest and don't really notice any bobble head. Still have some wind noise but can tell most of the wind is going just over my head. I personally would not like one any higher because of line of sight, but if I duck down all wind noise disappears... however don't like riding crouched down.

Arachnomania, or anyone with this shield...

Do you get or do you notice any wind coming through the hole "vent" in the windshield? Or maybe noise from there? How about bugs?

Juice[/quote]

bjt · 12-02-2008, 05:45 PM

I don't have a Cal Sci but I do have an EVO II from F1 windshields that has two vents installed in the lower part of the windshield. I wasn't quite sure how they were supposed to direct the air but I imagined that they would direct a nice blast of air through them for comfortable summer riding. However, I felt surprisingly little air coming through them, even at 70 MPH. Not sure if its the same on the Cal Sci or not.

GI Jane · 12-02-2008, 05:57 PM

I have the Cal Sci and I don't notice any air coming through them at all. I haven't quite figured out just why the cutout is there

Putt-Putt · 12-02-2008, 06:04 PM

I have the EVO-III with 2 vents,Don't feel any air coming through. But if they work like the vent on my BMW it keeps it from fogging up. In rainy or high humidity conditions.

tatt2r · 12-02-2008, 07:36 PM

ultra sport picking it up tomorrow

ataDude · 12-02-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GI Jane

I have the Cal Sci and I don't notice any air coming through them at all. I haven't quite figured out just why the cutout is there

At least on the CalSci, the vent is to minimize the turbulence behind the shield.

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Spyderjuice · 12-02-2008, 09:11 PM

Thanks to all who replied.

I'm trying to decide on Cal-si, F1, or wait on BRP shield.

Juice

arachnomania · 12-02-2008, 09:34 PM

Hey Spyderjuice, there is some breeze coming through the hole, nuttin bad and no noise from there noticed. Had a similiar "vent" in my Goldwing windshield with a flap to open or close it, never was hit by a bug through it but the calsci has a little less restriction so I'll have to wait till spring to see if any buggies make it through. Wondered bout that one myself. When I was shopping for a larger shield the one thing that sold me on the calsci was their statement that the hole was designed to relieve back pressure from the action of the shield blocking the wind in the first place. This backpressure causes the wind turbulance which contributes to "bobblehead". Seems to be accurate so far.

Rando · 12-03-2008, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spyderjuice

Thanks to all who replied.

I'm trying to decide on Cal-si, F1, or wait on BRP shield.Juice

I highly recommend the F1 Slider, and it's on sale!

bjt · 12-03-2008, 05:05 PM

The F1 slider is definately Marcel's best "all purpose" windshield followed by his EVO III.

Arthur---Mexico · 11-12-2009, 12:59 AM

I purchased an adjustable windshield that has a defective upper part. It has so much optical distortion that I can't use it after dark. I have called Marcel July 5 times but my calls are not returned. I have sent him 6 emails with no reply. I need a replacement of the upper part of my windshield that does not have any optical distortion. What do I have to do to have M July replace the defective upper part of my windshield? As of today I do not find Marcel july to be a rsponsible supplier. Arthur Cohen, Ibsen 72, Mexico City 11560