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    Default DIY tire replacement

    Has anyone had first hand experience using a Harbor Freight manual tire changer to remove and replace tires on their Spyder wheels? If so, did you have any problems? Thanks.

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    Default Take in to the professionals

    I have a Harbor Freight changer, and a $500 dollar manual changer from another company that I don't remember the brand. I change tons of tires all year as I own a lawnmower dealership. I would NEVER change my Spyder tires on either of the 2 tire changers I own. WAY to damaging to the rims! I would HIGHLY recommend taking it into a dealership that has very nice automatic tire changers.

    Just my experiences, and thoughts though.

    Good luck, if you try! I would love to hear how it works out if you do decide to go for it

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    I use two tire irons and rim protectors. Works fine. Use lots of soap to lube the bead.

    For the number of tires you will change, the machines will just take up space most of the time.
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    We bought the HF bead breaker and the spin balancer. That, and a couple of tire irons worked well for me. They even sold the wheel weights. A fellow ryder gave me a tip on doing that yesterday. He said to cut up a milk carton. It is thin and the wax make it smoother with no rim damage.
    On the bead breaker, I will make a better rest point for the rim though.

    btw: I removed the rotor and the rear sprocket. For balance purposes I marked the orientation of how they came off so that I could put them back in the same spot.

    I also suggest not using the tire changer either. The bead breaker was all I needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Humphreys View Post
    We bought the HF bead breaker and the spin balancer. That, and a couple of tire irons worked well for me. They even sold the wheel weights. A fellow ryder gave me a tip on doing that yesterday. He said to cut up a milk carton. It is thin and the wax make it smoother with no rim damage.
    On the bead breaker, I will make a better rest point for the rim though.

    btw: I removed the rotor and the rear sprocket. For balance purposes I marked the orientation of how they came off so that I could put them back in the same spot.

    I also suggest not using the tire changer either. The bead breaker was all I needed.
    as for balancing, marking the tire & rim to put back in same position died out on steel wheels in the late 70's since it never
    correctly worked for aluminum and was never that accurate for steel either.

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    Default Tyre removal.

    Here is a tip for tyre removal from a Gold Wing site.
    1. Break the bead on both sides.
    2. Feed a large zip-tie under both beads and join over the tread.
    3. Pull tight until both beads are tight together.
    4. Repeat every 6 inches, right around the tyre.
    5.Push one part of tyre bead(s) into the centre well of the wheel and the other side of the tyre will slip over the rim.
    Hope this may help somebody.

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    Default THIS TIRE CHANGER

    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    They appear really nice ....... but they are for motorcycle wheels ........... and are tires are on CAR WHEELS !!!!!! .............. Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    They appear really nice ....... but they are for motorcycle wheels ........... and are tires are on CAR WHEELS !!!!!! .............. Mike
    They work on car wheels too..I have another brand that is similar to the link and replaced the fronts and rears on the spyder. I even done the TRIGLIDE rears when I had that bike.



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    used them but have found that they are not cost effective unless your in the business of changing a lot of tires. You do need a lot of care and there are a lot of protective add ons. I find that most tire shops will do this for you for a fair price (wheel only) and are equiped to do it. Around here ten bucks and a bit more if they balance it as well. Just mount the new tire correctly with the markings at the stem and balancing is a breeze ( yellow dot should go at the valve stem)...
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    Tire shops in my area are like butchers. They just throw around the wheels and tires like meat.

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    I have the HF changer and the add-on for doing motorcycle tires. Haven't attempted spyder wheels yet but it works for the two-wheeler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    They work on car wheels too..I have another brand that is similar to the link and replaced the fronts and rears on the spyder. I even done the TRIGLIDE rears when I had that bike.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGR2-X8gHmE
    WOW Thanks for the post on this changer. I'm going to look into one for my shop! Like I stated in the 2nd post none of the 2 changers I have work like this one. Totally different style changer this one appears to be more like an automatic style design, but manual.

    I do nothing but when I use mine (well at least 1 out of 5 times anyways).

    Its getting to the point I need to change 20 tires a day to be profitable on the amount of money I already have tied up into the 2 that I have. But I'm willing to spend more money if it actually works like the video you posted

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    I've looked repeatedly at buying one of the No-Mar changers for my shop. But no matter how you slice and dice it, its getting close to a grand for the changer and all the add ons for aluminum rims, delivered and set up in my shop. Discount charges $10 a tire to mount. $16 to mount and balance. Yes it MIGHT save time with the reduction of trips to Discount Tire but I just cannot justify. And if I damage ONE rim, any thought of ever breaking even on cost is a pipe dream. For now, I suck it up, toss the tire and rim in the Excursion and head off to Discount. If they ever start fussing about Spyder wheels, this may all change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Humphreys View Post
    We bought the HF bead breaker and the spin balancer. That, and a couple of tire irons worked well for me. They even sold the wheel weights. A fellow ryder gave me a tip on doing that yesterday. He said to cut up a milk carton. It is thin and the wax make it smoother with no rim damage.
    On the bead breaker, I will make a better rest point for the rim though.

    btw: I removed the rotor and the rear sprocket. For balance purposes I marked the orientation of how they came off so that I could put them back in the same spot.

    I also suggest not using the tire changer either. The bead breaker was all I needed.

    How do you get the tire off and on without the changer and just an iron? I only have 2 hands and with aluminum wheels, easily damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAS POWER View Post
    WOW Thanks for the post on this changer. I'm going to look into one for my shop! Like I stated in the 2nd post none of the 2 changers I have work like this one. Totally different style changer this one appears to be more like an automatic style design, but manual.

    I do nothing but when I use mine (well at least 1 out of 5 times anyways).

    Its getting to the point I need to change 20 tires a day to be profitable on the amount of money I already have tied up into the 2 that I have. But I'm willing to spend more money if it actually works like the video you posted
    Go on youtube many more videos on these changers

    I spent more time driving and wasting time getting tires mounted,, I fiqure my labor is not cheap and I can do it at home anytime

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    Thanks for the comments. I already have the HF tire changer with the motorcycle adapter and some homemade mojo blocks and have used it in the past to change out some old Bushtec trailer tires and tubes. I have ordered a No Mar bar and I think everything will be OK. If I were doing this every day, I would look at a much better quality unit like the No Mar tire changers.

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    Nice tip....

    Quote Originally Posted by Flier Tuck View Post
    Here is a tip for tyre removal from a Gold Wing site.
    1. Break the bead on both sides.
    2. Feed a large zip-tie under both beads and join over the tread.
    3. Pull tight until both beads are tight together.
    4. Repeat every 6 inches, right around the tyre.
    5.Push one part of tyre bead(s) into the centre well of the wheel and the other side of the tyre will slip over the rim.
    Hope this may help somebody.
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    I bought a No-Mar changer late last year. I did the hitch mount setup and have probably done about a dozen various tires and wheels...including the Spyder. It is worth every penny. Tire shops around here are more likely to damage wheels and could care less. The people at No-Mar are also fantastic and always willing to help/give advice.

    I wouldn't even think of putting a Spyder wheel, or any other wheel I cared about in the harbour freight changer....maybe lawn tractor or trailer wheels.

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