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 Less oil recommended
Had my 2014 RT-S in for 9000 mile service yesterday. Tech informed me that BRP now wants one quart of oil less than manual calls for. When checking, the oil should be just above the minimum mark. (This from BRP).
They claim it will add significant power to the engine. He advised me to pay close attention on the way home for an increase. I truly noticed an increase in engine response.
I will follow their instructions.
I trust my tech.
Just thought I would let everyone know.
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I'd wait for a factory notice on this.
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Interesting because that IS the case with their inline 3 motors in the seadoos.
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 Originally Posted by Richard123
Had my 2014 RT-S in for 9000 mile service yesterday. Tech informed me that BRP now wants one quart of oil less than manual calls for. When checking, the oil should be just above the minimum mark. (This from BRP).
They claim it will add significant power to the engine. He advised me to pay close attention on the way home for an increase. I truly noticed an increase in engine response.
I will follow their instructions.
I trust my tech.
Just thought I would let everyone know.
That's a huge difference in oil level. Makes you wonder how BRP could be so far off in their original determination. Doesn't make any sense to me. That's one quart less in the reservoir; the dry sump system will keep circulating the same amount of oil thru the engine regardless. So how could the amount in the reservoir have any influence on performance? Someone needs to enlighten me.
On the other hand, I know the dealership and the tech's Dana and Tom do all the BRP work. Dana's the lead and very much in touch with BRP. Also very conservative and would not do anything that would go against factory spec's. He must be putting forth the straight story from BRP. Will be interesting to see what BRP comes out with for the average owner. If you keep it at or just above the minimum, does that mean you have to be ultra careful about not letting it drop any further? Or have they also reduced the minimum? That doesn't seem likely.
RT and Gold Wing States & Provinces
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Originally Posted by gypsy_100
That's a huge difference in oil level. Makes you wonder how BRP could be so far off in their original determination. Doesn't make any sense to me. That's one quart less in the reservoir; the dry sump system will keep circulating the same amount of oil thru the engine regardless. So how could the amount in the reservoir have any influence on performance? Someone needs to enlighten me.
On the other hand, I know the dealership and the tech's Dana and Tom do all the BRP work. Dana's the lead and very much in touch with BRP. Also very conservative and would not do anything that would go against factory spec's. He must be putting forth the straight story from BRP. Will be interesting to see what BRP comes out with for the average owner. If you keep it at or just above the minimum, does that mean you have to be ultra careful about not letting it drop any further? Or have they also reduced the minimum? That doesn't seem likely.
Interesting development. I would be interested in seeing a service bulletin on this.  I do not understand how 1 less quart in the oil tank will make any difference in performance on a dry sump engine. Would really be interested in the technical explanation. Now if this is correct and BRP wants a lower oil level it's time for a new longer dipstick.
2018 F3 LIMITED
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We'll have to watch for a T.S.B. regarding this item. 
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Less oil
My tech did say that BRP told him more oil would not hurt anything. So perhaps if concerned, keep it a little higher on the dip stick.
I am going with his recommendation.
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Called the local Can Am Spyder service desk guys
They said that nothing has been sent to them, so they are filling them to the line as per usual.
This is also likely if true, only for the RT models, so wouldn't affect my RS-S anyway?
Chas
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Originally Posted by ChasCS
They said that nothing has been sent to them, so they are filling them to the line as per usual.
This is also likely if true, only for the RT models, so wouldn't affect my RS-S anyway?
Chas
No. Different engine.
2020 RTL SE6
Previously 2008 GS SM5 and 2014 RT SE6
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Glad for these incredible brakes too...
Yep, slightly better performance for the inline three 1330, not our v-twin 998cc bad boys...
That's ok with me. I have plenty of "get up & get the heck out of Dodge', already... ;-)
Chas
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Agree..!!
wait for the bulletin..or have the shop show you where it says that. A quart is a lot even if that engine hold so much more...
Gene and Ilana De Laney
Mt. Helix, California
2012 RS sm5
2012 RS sm5 , 998cc V-Twin 106hp DIY brake and park brake Classic Black
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He may be mistaken. They did change the spec on the amount of oil to be used in the 1330. What they said was as much as a liter too much oil can cause a 30% loss of power. The marks from full to low is 1/2 a quart so 1 full quart would not show on the dip stick.
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Is the 1330 a dry sump motor with an oil tank?
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Yup!
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Interesting. Oil level shouldn't be that critical then. Compared to the seadoo skis where there is no oil tank. Oil level is very critical in relation to max rpms.
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on the 2014 RT LT I check it when the engine is warm/hot -- it will be at the full mark -- on the new bike after 3000 miles it did not need any oil added --
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Could the difference in oil level have an effect on the transmission? I agree an oil tank/dry sump system with reduced oil level shouldn't effect engine performance in any way. Isn't there a BRP rep on here? Maybe he could find out and let us know.
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If all this is true....BRP had better replace all the 1330 dip sticks....
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If I understand Lamont correctly, there is no concern, things have not changed.
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Originally Posted by bluestratos
If I understand Lamont correctly, there is no concern, things have not changed.
From5.3L to 4.7L looks like a difference to me that is on the SE6
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I was wondering if people were putting all the oil that is in the BRP oil kit. That might cause a problem since the kit has 6.6L of oil in it.... I can see where someone might think... it's a kit so I'll put it all in.... just a thought...
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My technician made no mention of this, and I just had the service done this morning... 
