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Anyone been down this path before? Both analog gauges stopped working at the same time while riding. Also lost the dash lights in the instrument cluster. Both of the fuses for the cluster and the gauges were not blown. Replaced them any way with no luck. Hoping to avoid dealer visit during the holiday's week. I do have an extended BRP warranty on my 2014 RTS.
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Originally Posted by Bumble_B
Anyone been down this path before? Both analog gauges stopped working at the same time while riding. Also lost the dash lights in the instrument cluster. Both of the fuses for the cluster and the gauges were not blown. Replaced them any way with no luck. Hoping to avoid dealer visit during the holiday's week. I do have an extended BRP warranty on my 2014 RTS.
DISCONNECT THEM SO THE DIGITAL GAUGES COME UP ON THE DISPLAY THE ANALOG GAUGES ARE NOT ACCURATE
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If both gauges and the dash lights died at the same time my slow brain says that points to a loose connection, a short to ground or a loose ground connection. I've never bothered to disconnect my analog gauges to see how much more accurate the digital bars are but that's because I have a pretty good estimate of how many miles I have left when the low fuel light comes on. Checking ground connections would be my first effort, but I'd have to dive into the wiring diagrams to determine where to begin.
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Bummer.....
Would start with what add ons do you have if any. Like led lights, power outlets etc that may have caused the fueses to blow. The fact that the two fueses are blown makes it some connection or overload problem. It would also seem to be more in the instrument panel area. What work has been done lately..? may have to backtrack if any changes were made.
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Originally Posted by jtoro1
DISCONNECT THEM SO THE DIGITAL GAUGES COME UP ON THE DISPLAY THE ANALOG GAUGES ARE NOT ACCURATE
That does NOT solve the problem, since other things failed too.
And some of us LIKE the analog gauges, thank you.
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
The fact that the two fueses are blown makes it some connection or overload problem.
He said they were NOT blown.
Checking for voltage at the fuses might be a good place to start tracing though.
A meter will be required.
And a wiring diagram probably.
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
Would start with what add ons do you have if any. Like led lights, power outlets etc that may have caused the fueses to blow. The fact that the two fueses are blown makes it some connection or overload problem. It would also seem to be more in the instrument panel area. What work has been done lately..? may have to backtrack if any changes were made.
No changes at all. Fuses were not blown.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
He said they were NOT blown.
Checking for voltage at the fuses might be a good place to start tracing though.
A meter will be required.
And a wiring diagram probably.
Pretty sure the bike would be better off with me not rippin and tearin without the proper tools or diagrams
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Temp and Fuel gauge
Originally Posted by Bumble_B
Pretty sure the bike would be better off with me not rippin and tearin without the proper tools or diagrams
Well there you go, the decision has been mad, take it to the dealer and let them trouble shoot it under warranty.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
Another card for the let the dealer figure it out--under warranty.
I must have missed where he said that his 2014 is still under warranty.
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The dealer cannot work me in to his schedule until the second week of January. Can someone tell me exactly how to unplug the two analog gauges so I get a readout for the 350 mile end of year ride this Saturday?
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Originally Posted by Bumble_B
The dealer cannot work me in to his schedule until the second week of January.
It appears that there are about 7 dealers not too far from you.
Surely one of them should be able to tell you how to disconnect the gauges........and maybe even do it for you.......if they understand what it takes to make new customers.
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Good news. Dealer service mgr. called back to let me know he will try to get me in tomorrow. Unfortunately, I told him we cannot have the bike tied up waiting for a part? He walked me through the very easy steps to unplug the gauges and I am good for now.
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Thanks
Good news and thanks for letting us know how this issue is going. We seldom get the steps and many time never hear if they fixed it or not....
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One more question. The coolant bar graph is functioning. It reads in a yellow color. The fuel bar graph registers in what color? I saw a blue graph in an old you tube video. I know my fuel is low, 175miles on tank, but all I see is a light gray shade. What should I see on a 2014 when I fill up??
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Originally Posted by Bumble_B
One more question. The coolant bar graph is functioning. It reads in a yellow color. The fuel bar graph registers in what color? I saw a blue graph in an old you tube video. I know my fuel is low, 175miles on tank, but all I see is a light gray shade. What should I see on a 2014 when I fill up??
When you re-fill the tank, it should show in blue on the bar graph.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
When you re-fill the tank, it should show in blue on the bar graph.
OK. Thanks. Hope it works. Just realized there is no low fuel light on either.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
I must have missed where he said that his 2014 is still under warranty.
+1! RT Whole FP, Bros!
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
That does NOT solve the problem, since other things failed too.
And some of us LIKE the analog gauges, thank you.
Disconnecting the analog gauges I think is just a troubleshooting tactic, not a solution.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Disconnecting the analog gauges I think is just a troubleshooting tactic, not a solution.
Agreed. I wanted to know the coolant temp for a long ride this weekend, so this got the job done temporarily.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Disconnecting the analog gauges I think is just a troubleshooting tactic, not a solution.
Yes of course with the symptoms listed.
But the post I replied to seemed to be proposing that as a fix.
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Just a clarification--maybe?
I am thinking there are a couple things going on here.
Electrical gremlins seem to be the problem of the OP's reason for posting. It is beginning to seem like the analog disconnect is not completely solving the OP's issues.
Prior to this thread, the issue for disconnecting the analog gauges was the fact that the early RT's seemed to have "wonky" as in moving around, gas gauges. I had two repairs under warranty on my 2010. They did not solve the issue. I said heck with it. Disconnected the analogs and went to the digitals. No more issues on the 2010.
When I bought Linda the 2011, she experienced the same thing. Gas gauge all over the place. Rather than go through the warranty stuff again, I just disconnected the analogs. Gas gauge issues solved.
The 2014 gauges are rock solid. Not needed this go around.
I do not know why--but you are supposed to disconnect both analog gauges--not just the wonky gas gauge.
Hope this added information is helpful.
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IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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Just filled with fuel. Turned ignition on and had an ORANGE bar graph al the way to the top. Started and graph grayed out. Parked in garage. Turned ignition back to on and had a full orange bar graph again. Started and grayed out. Dropping off at dealer right after New Years and they will work it in.
No one else has had these symptoms before??
Will let you know what dealer outcome is.....
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