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07-05-2014, 01:54 PM
#101
Last year; their big announcement came on September 15th at 8:00 PM EST...
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07-05-2014, 03:06 PM
#102
Originally Posted by robmorg
I'm not sure about that. I cannot see it being "cool".
Then open your eyes, my Spyderloving friend, and ye shall see...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUT3imO17qE#t=75
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chFpOmj78NQ#t=105
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07-05-2014, 04:25 PM
#103
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by daveinva
Then open your eyes, my Spyderloving friend, and ye shall see...
OK, I concede... that's cool!
But not as cool as riding down the highway (or the back roads) on a BIG cruiser was for me, or a Ninja ZX rider in the twistys for those into sport bikes. Although that 3-wheeler absorbed some side forces in the turns, you still can't counter-steer the thing!!! Yeah, it took twistys better than the Spyder does, but he still had to steer it though. I grant that it would be fun for a while, but I just can't see any long-term appeal, either for bikers or Spyder-lovers.
The Spyder is also cool, but in a "snow mobile" kind of way. I enjoy the side forces on the Spyder and I also enjoy that it does not "pretend" to be a 2-wheeled motorcycle.
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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07-05-2014, 04:30 PM
#104
Here's another one that shows some definite promise...
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07-05-2014, 05:05 PM
#105
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Here's another one that shows some definite promise...
That's a real contender, IMHO.
But no frunk!!
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07-05-2014, 05:19 PM
#106
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07-05-2014, 08:35 PM
#107
I'm Curious: Did they get rid of the HID light options on the 2014s or is it now included stock? The specs look like they say halogen ... The HID was one of my favorite accessories on my 2012.
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-05-2014, 09:16 PM
#108
For those who do not like what a leaning trike can do, how it does it, and the added fun it provides; I suggest you simply look at the Piaggio scooter. It has been out for several years and has been a huge success for the company.
A leaning Spyder would appeal to many in my opinion -- including myself. I would trade the second BRP comes out with one. The lean of my motorcycle is what I miss the most when I am on my Spyder. The Spyder feels too much like an ATV or snowmobile; and the lateral jerkiness is one of the consumers' biggest complaints about a Spyder. In fact, it is the first complaint for most.
A leaning Spyder would solve that problem.
Here is a link to a review on the Piaggio. It is a quick-read. The lean factor provides an added element of fun and excitement when riding it; and there are safety features to keep it upright at slow-speeds or when parking.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/piaggio-mp3-300/
Here is a video of it in action.
videoplayback
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07-05-2014, 09:18 PM
#109
Depending on how they do it, i would think you could make one where the leaning is able to be turned on or off based on your riding style or mood.
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-06-2014, 12:17 AM
#110
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Illinois Boy
For those who do not like what a leaning trike can do, how it does it, and the added fun it provides; I suggest you simply look at the Piaggio scooter. It has been out for several years and has been a huge success for the company.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/piaggio-mp3-300/
Here is a video of it in action.
videoplayback
Now, that IS COOL! It looks like a lot of fun too, except that it's rather small. 278cc on something that small would move it along rather well, though.
I got a kick out of the line in their write-up that said, "The only thing that a Can Am Spyder has in common with a motorcycle is that you get wet in the rain." Not sure I entirely agree that's the ONLY thing, but hey, it's their ad.
When I bought the Spyder, I gave my big touring bike to my son who enjoys the heck out of it. But I still have a 20 year old 250 cc Honda Helix scooter, that's fun to zip around town on. free-random-smileys-215.gif Every once in a while, when I feel the urge to counter-steer, I hop on it and go for a ride. It's rather long for a scooter and accommodates my long legs.
Helix-3-2.jpg
Last edited by robmorg; 07-06-2014 at 12:19 AM.
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07-06-2014, 10:14 AM
#111
Originally Posted by robmorg
Now, that IS COOL! It looks like a lot of fun too, except that it's rather small. 278cc on something that small would move it along rather well, though. I got a kick out of the line in their write-up that said, "The only thing that a Can Am Spyder has in common with a motorcycle is that you get wet in the rain." Not sure I entirely agree that's the ONLY thing, but hey, it's their ad. When I bought the Spyder, I gave my big touring bike to my son who enjoys the heck out of it. But I still have a 20 year old 250 cc Honda Helix scooter, that's fun to zip around town on. free-random-smileys-215.gif Every once in a while, when I feel the urge to counter-steer, I hop on it and go for a ride. It's rather long for a scooter and accommodates my long legs.
I caught that statement also; but to some degree it is true. Spyders are not motorcycles, not even close. They are more like ATV's than a motorcycle. I, personally, do not even like when someone refers to them as a "bike". If anything, call it a trike.
However, I would like to see the leaning technology employed into the Spyder. I am afraid of what the price would be though. Can you imagine?
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07-06-2014, 10:49 AM
#112
Active Member
2014 RTS SE6 White
BajaRon Swaybar
Elka front shocks supplied by Pitbull Power sports.
Aligned By Squared Away
Smooth Spyder belt tensioner
Sprderpops Bump skid
BRP TRI AXSIS Handle bars
Luggage rack
2013 STS SE5 Circuit Yellow. The Jenny Mobile!
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07-06-2014, 10:59 AM
#113
Originally Posted by Illinois Boy
For those who do not like what a leaning trike can do, how it does it, and the added fun it provides; I suggest you simply look at the Piaggio scooter. It has been out for several years and has been a huge success for the company.
Completely different animal. How wide are the front wheels on the Piaggio? Much more narrow of a trike than the Spyder. I just don't see it working as well.
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07-06-2014, 11:31 AM
#114
Originally Posted by NetJunkie
Completely different animal. How wide are the front wheels on the Piaggio? Much more narrow of a trike than the Spyder. I just don't see it working as well.
The width of the Piaggio is not an indication of the limit of the technology. There is a video on this thread using the same lean technology on a wider front-end (nearly the Spyder width); so I am not sure what you cannot see.
It isn't rocket science we are speaking of. It is just a matter of whether the market will buy one, and if it can be made in a price-range for the market. Nothing more, nothing less.
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07-06-2014, 11:54 AM
#115
Very Active Member
If I wanted to lean I would buy a motorcycle. I happen to love the way this machine rides. Instead of dreaming up ways to change the machine, why not try learning how to ride it properly?
Just sayin'...........
Three in the garage, and I think I can fit at least one more in.....and then we will have to build another garage.
The roads in NY are so bad that I am glad we bought a Ryker Rally
Just sayin'............
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07-06-2014, 11:59 AM
#116
Originally Posted by otter28169
If I wanted to lean I would buy a motorcycle. I happen to love the way this machine rides. Instead of dreaming up ways to change the machine, why not try learning how to ride it properly?
Just sayin'...........
Whats wrong with a base model that doesn't lean, and a higher end model that can both lean and be locked in a rigid mode?
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-06-2014, 12:10 PM
#117
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by dguisinger
Whats wrong with a base model that doesn't lean, and a higher end model that can both lean and be locked in a rigid mode?
I don't want a base model, I don't need a leaner, and I don't need every option under the sun either. I need a more HP with the same basic design. I want to enjoy the thrill. I am not worried about having a radio or being economical.
Just sayin'............
Three in the garage, and I think I can fit at least one more in.....and then we will have to build another garage.
The roads in NY are so bad that I am glad we bought a Ryker Rally
Just sayin'............
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07-06-2014, 12:22 PM
#118
Originally Posted by otter28169
I don't want a base model, I don't need a leaner, and I don't need every option under the sun either. I need a more HP with the same basic design. I want to enjoy the thrill. I am not worried about having a radio or being economical.
Just sayin'............
THIS! THIS! That's all I want on the 2015 RS-S.
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07-06-2014, 12:35 PM
#119
Originally Posted by otter28169
I don't want a base model, I don't need a leaner, and I don't need every option under the sun either. I need a more HP with the same basic design. I want to enjoy the thrill. I am not worried about having a radio or being economical.
Just sayin'............
Your RSS already has suspension adjustment options. Again, what is wrong with a mechanical lock that either puts it in one mode or the other? You are the only one talking about radios
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-06-2014, 01:01 PM
#120
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by dguisinger
Your RSS already has suspension adjustment options. Again, what is wrong with a mechanical lock that either puts it in one mode or the other? You are the only one talking about radios
One more articulation in the front end to put up with the constant abuse "spirited" riding provides. How are you gonna switch tires to get a narrower tire for the lean? Or, even worse, how would you corner flat on an ultra narrow tire designed for leaners? And what about the width of the front end: to corner flat you need a wide front end which is not conducive to leaning. I am tired of hearing everyone complain about the handling and options on there machines. I am tired of hearing that the RS is an entry level model. Leaning is a motorcycle thing if you want to lean, buy a motorcycle.
Just sayin'............
Three in the garage, and I think I can fit at least one more in.....and then we will have to build another garage.
The roads in NY are so bad that I am glad we bought a Ryker Rally
Just sayin'............
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07-06-2014, 01:05 PM
#121
Originally Posted by otter28169
One more articulation in the front end to put up with the constant abuse "spirited" riding provides. How are you gonna switch tires to get a narrower tire for the lean? Or, even worse, how would you corner flat on an ultra narrow tire designed for leaners? And what about the width of the front end: to corner flat you need a wide front end which is not conducive to leaning. I am tired of hearing everyone complain about the handling and options on there machines. I am tired of hearing that the RS is an entry level model. Leaning is a motorcycle thing if you want to lean, buy a motorcycle.
Just sayin'............
Why do the tires need to lean, the body itself can lean and the wheels can stay flat. Its all in how you design something.
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-06-2014, 01:06 PM
#122
Originally Posted by dguisinger
Your RSS already has suspension adjustment options. Again, what is wrong with a mechanical lock that either puts it in one mode or the other? You are the only one talking about radios
More complexity. More weight. Unneeded.
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07-06-2014, 01:14 PM
#123
Originally Posted by NetJunkie
More complexity. More weight. Unneeded.
Blah blah blah
Current Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2015 Spyder F3-S with Heated Handle Grips, Gauge Spoiler, Fog Lights, 12V port, Akrapovic Exhaust, Driver and Passenger Backrests
Previous Spyder:
"Can-Am Red"/Black 2012 Spyder RS-S with Can-Am Comfort Seat, Comfort Grips, Rigid Saddle Bags, HID lights, Fog Lghts, 12V Accessory port, Trunk Liner, Hindle exhaust, Flash2Pass, SpyderPops BumpSkid, Side Grilles, Missing Air Dam, Air Management System, BajaRon Anti-Sway Bar
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07-06-2014, 01:30 PM
#124
Originally Posted by dguisinger
Blah blah blah
Well, that's helpful.
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07-06-2014, 01:34 PM
#125
Originally Posted by 0992
These rumors only but I'm hearing talk about 2 different things.
1. a hybrid
2.a new one selling for under $10K new
Just rumors
Yes, I did hear about #2. Guess BRP wants to make available a cheaper Spyder to broaden their market to include
younger riders with a smaller budget.
Didn't hear anything about a hydrid, but if if does hapen I would likely wait a couple of years for them to de-bug the powertrain.
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