First impressions Yoshi R-77 Exhaust

[daveinva]

Hmmm.

(Yeah, that's my first impression alright ).

After 10,000 miles my stock exhaust looked like -- paint flaking off like crazy, crud staining the outside-- and started sounding worse. I blame the summer heat, but all around it just sounded unwell. So, I figured I'd invest in an aftermarket exhaust.

I didn't really want one-- I hate the bulk, look and general note of the stock exhaust, but the stock has one thing going for it: it's quiet. And I *like* quiet-- I'm definitely NOT a loud pipes guy.

My hope was to find an exhaust that sounded better than the stock, but was about the same volume in decibels.

The Yoshi is 1 outta 2. It sounds better, but it's still quite a bit louder than stock. Folks here recommended it as being among the quietest aftermarket exhausts available for the Spyder, but even with the "low volume" insert in place, the Yoshi is definitely noticeable.

In fact, I tried to take a short video with my GoPro to share with the gang here, but the exhaust was so loud that the sound reverbed off of the walls of my house and the neighbor's in the driveway that it swamped the GoPro's microphone. Heh.

On the road, the Yoshi sounds nice and mean. Through my full-face helmet, WITH ear plugs in. With the visor up and the plugs out... sigh, like I said, I'm just not a loud pipes guy. And while I recognize that the Yoshi is definitely quieter than the other Spyder choices... yeah.

It *looks* lean and mean. Given how lousy the stock exhaust was looking, I figured I'd go straight to the carbon fiber to avoid rust and discoloration issues. Fingers crossed.

The instructions say to re-pack every 5000 miles... I think I'll try to stretch that to every other oil change, we'll see how it reacts.

Performance is better, or at least *feels* better. Compared to the stock exhaust, riding with the Yoshi pipe sounds like the Spyder's no longer congested, it's breathing free. A *little* backfiring, the usual "baby gurgling" on decel but nothing like how the stock was popping there at the end. I don't think I'll need any filter/JB/etc., seems like my RS has taken to the Yoshi right out of the box (no ECU issues, no limp mode, nada). Just install and ride away.

Oh, and for the record: even though it's advertised as a "slip on," the R-77 definitely requires the stock BRP slip joint gasket for installation. So, if you order the Yoshi, also order a gasket (my dealer had it in stock, I see no reason why ALL dealers wouldn't have it in stock, but just FYI).

Bottom line: if you want an aftermarket exhaust, the R-77 is worth your money. If you want something as quiet as the stock exhaust, the R-77 may be your closest bet, but trust me, it'll still be louder than stock.

[gfd1182]

Appreciate ur input.
Im thinking of going the yoshi route! Also

Hmmm.

(Yeah, that's my first impression alright ).

After 10,000 miles my stock exhaust looked like -- paint flaking off like crazy, crud staining the outside-- and started sounding worse. I blame the summer heat, but all around it just sounded unwell. So, I figured I'd invest in an aftermarket exhaust.

I didn't really want one-- I hate the bulk, look and general note of the stock exhaust, but the stock has one thing going for it: it's quiet. And I *like* quiet-- I'm definitely NOT a loud pipes guy.

My hope was to find an exhaust that sounded better than the stock, but was about the same volume in decibels.

The Yoshi is 1 outta 2. It sounds better, but it's still quite a bit louder than stock. Folks here recommended it as being among the quietest aftermarket exhausts available for the Spyder, but even with the "low volume" insert in place, the Yoshi is definitely noticeable.

In fact, I tried to take a short video with my GoPro to share with the gang here, but the exhaust was so loud that the sound reverbed off of the walls of my house and the neighbor's in the driveway that it swamped the GoPro's microphone. Heh.

On the road, the Yoshi sounds nice and mean. Through my full-face helmet, WITH ear plugs in. With the visor up and the plugs out... sigh, like I said, I'm just not a loud pipes guy. And while I recognize that the Yoshi is definitely quieter than the other Spyder choices... yeah.

It *looks* lean and mean. Given how lousy the stock exhaust was looking, I figured I'd go straight to the carbon fiber to avoid rust and discoloration issues. Fingers crossed.

The instructions say to re-pack every 5000 miles... I think I'll try to stretch that to every other oil change, we'll see how it reacts.

Performance is better, or at least *feels* better. Compared to the stock exhaust, riding with the Yoshi pipe sounds like the Spyder's no longer congested, it's breathing free. A *little* backfiring, the usual "baby gurgling" on decel but nothing like how the stock was popping there at the end. I don't think I'll need any filter/JB/etc., seems like my RS has taken to the Yoshi right out of the box (no ECU issues, no limp mode, nada). Just install and ride away.

Oh, and for the record: even though it's advertised as a "slip on," the R-77 definitely requires the stock BRP slip joint gasket for installation. So, if you order the Yoshi, also order a gasket (my dealer had it in stock, I see no reason why ALL dealers wouldn't have it in stock, but just FYI).

Bottom line: if you want an aftermarket exhaust, the R-77 is worth your money. If you want something as quiet as the stock exhaust, the R-77 may be your closest bet, but trust me, it'll still be louder than stock.

[scooterexpress]

I will have my yosh for the rt less than a yr old probably only put on 5k on it for sale at spyderfest I switched to a tailgunner exhaust that's even louder..price will be 250.00..contact me now if you want it.

jim

[BajaRon]

The R-77 is one of Yoshimura's louder exhaust systems. One of the selling points of this model is 'Maximized muffler volume'. Not the greatest selling point if you're looking for quiet.

The RS-3 is the quietest Yoshimura version. That is the one I am using. It is quieter because it is longer. 18"-20" as opposed to the much shorter R-77's 12"-14" length. That is roughly 30% longer.

I was not able to find a db rating for any of these mufflers and it really depends on the application as to exactly what you'll end up with. But relatively speaking the RS-3 should be noticeably quieter than the R-77, the 20" version being the least noisy.

Yoshimura recommends repacking at 7k-10k. This typically assumes that you're riding it like a crotch rocket all the time.

[daveinva]

The R-77 is one of Yoshimura's louder exhaust systems. One of the selling points of this model is 'Maximized muffler volume'. Not the greatest selling point if you're looking for quiet.

The RS-3 is the quietest Yoshimura version. That is the one I am using. It is quieter because it is longer. 18"-20" as opposed to the much shorter R-77's 12"-14" length. That is roughly 30% longer.

I was not able to find a db rating for any of these mufflers and it really depends on the application as to exactly what you'll end up with. But relatively speaking the RS-3 should be noticeably quieter than the R-77, the 20" version being the least noisy.

Yoshimura recommends repacking at 7k-10k. This typically assumes that you're riding it like a crotch rocket all the time.

Huh. Coulda swore folks here (including you Ron) praised the R-77 as the quietist. Guess not!

That said, with the insert in, AND freshly packed, it really isn't that loud. Louder than stock, maybe comparable to the Hindle, but nothing like a Two Bros. or an obnoxious straight pipe.

Any ideas what the quietist exhaust of all would be for the Spyder? I'm guessing the stock is probably closest.

BTW, anything special needed to fit the RS-3?

[BajaRon]

Huh. Coulda swore folks here (including you Ron) praised the R-77 as the quietist. Guess not!

That said, with the insert in, AND freshly packed, it really isn't that loud. Louder than stock, maybe comparable to the Hindle, but nothing like a Two Bros. or an obnoxious straight pipe.

Any ideas what the quietist exhaust of all would be for the Spyder? I'm guessing the stock is probably closest.

BTW, anything special needed to fit the RS-3?

I'm hoping I didn't say the R-77 is the quietest. What I hope I said is that the Yoshimura mufflers are much quieter than most other aftermarket mufflers for the Spyder. Within the Yoshimura line up the RS-3 is the quietest, as far as I can tell. I haven't been able to find actual sound level rankings or figures.

I don't know of a quieter exhaust than stock. Nor do I know of a quieter aftermarket exhaust than the Yoshimura. But there may be something out there.

Most people want a lot more noise out of their aftermarket pipe. Otherwise, why bother? So it sells better the louder it is (in general at least).

I believe that all of the 2-1/4" Yoshimura slip-ons will work with the same inlet piping.

[cjackg]

I am one of the RT owners that has used the R77 for over a year on my 2012 Ltd... and I often praised it for the mellow sound and very high quality of the components... but, I never said or even heard, that it was supposed to be quieter than a stock pipe!

You may want to just re-install the oem RT pipe if you dont like the sound, as I dont think anyone is selling a pipe that's supposed to be quieter!

[daveinva]

I'm hoping I didn't say the R-77 is the quietest. What I hope I said is that the Yoshimura mufflers are much quieter than most other aftermarket mufflers for the Spyder. Within the Yoshimura line up the RS-3 is the quietest, as far as I can tell. I haven't been able to find actual sound level rankings or figures.

I don't know of a quieter exhaust than stock. Nor do I know of a quieter aftermarket exhaust than the Yoshimura. But there may be something out there.

Most people want a lot more noise out of their aftermarket pipe. Otherwise, why bother? So it sells better the louder it is (in general at least).

I believe that all of the 2-1/4" Yoshimura slip-ons will work with the same inlet piping.

I'm the weirdo who didn't want louder-- just different, and lighter. The stock exhaust note was sooo boring, and that thing weighs a FRAKKIN' TON. My ideal exhaust would be the same volume, just a better sound.

BTW, I just noticed that I misspelled "quietest" not once but *twice* in my earlier post. Man, getting old SUX.

[daveinva]

I am one of the RT owners that has used the R77 for over a year on my 2012 Ltd... and I often praised it for the mellow sound and very high quality of the components... but, I never said or even heard, that it was supposed to be quieter than a stock pipe!

No, never heard that it was quieter than stock-- just the quietest of the aftermarket pipes available for the Spyder.

No worries-- I didn't buy it for volume alone, I bought it for sound, and it's a great sound. But as I said above, I'd love an awesome sound AND (relatively) quiet!

[napper39]

i got the r77 on my rt and its sure isent loud i would like it to be a little louder but it fine and i wont take the baffle out because it running so good this way and i dont want to mess up a good thing .

[bandwagon]

I have my stock pipe that used only to get it home from Fredericksburg. It was changed within an hour. I'm willing to trade since I like some noise and my Hindle seems to have gotten louder. You can PM me if interested since we are pretty close (Stafford, Va.)

Hmmm.

(Yeah, that's my first impression alright ).

After 10,000 miles my stock exhaust looked like -- paint flaking off like crazy, crud staining the outside-- and started sounding worse. I blame the summer heat, but all around it just sounded unwell. So, I figured I'd invest in an aftermarket exhaust.

I didn't really want one-- I hate the bulk, look and general note of the stock exhaust, but the stock has one thing going for it: it's quiet. And I *like* quiet-- I'm definitely NOT a loud pipes guy.

My hope was to find an exhaust that sounded better than the stock, but was about the same volume in decibels.

The Yoshi is 1 outta 2. It sounds better, but it's still quite a bit louder than stock. Folks here recommended it as being among the quietest aftermarket exhausts available for the Spyder, but even with the "low volume" insert in place, the Yoshi is definitely noticeable.

In fact, I tried to take a short video with my GoPro to share with the gang here, but the exhaust was so loud that the sound reverbed off of the walls of my house and the neighbor's in the driveway that it swamped the GoPro's microphone. Heh.

On the road, the Yoshi sounds nice and mean. Through my full-face helmet, WITH ear plugs in. With the visor up and the plugs out... sigh, like I said, I'm just not a loud pipes guy. And while I recognize that the Yoshi is definitely quieter than the other Spyder choices... yeah.

It *looks* lean and mean. Given how lousy the stock exhaust was looking, I figured I'd go straight to the carbon fiber to avoid rust and discoloration issues. Fingers crossed.

The instructions say to re-pack every 5000 miles... I think I'll try to stretch that to every other oil change, we'll see how it reacts.

Performance is better, or at least *feels* better. Compared to the stock exhaust, riding with the Yoshi pipe sounds like the Spyder's no longer congested, it's breathing free. A *little* backfiring, the usual "baby gurgling" on decel but nothing like how the stock was popping there at the end. I don't think I'll need any filter/JB/etc., seems like my RS has taken to the Yoshi right out of the box (no ECU issues, no limp mode, nada). Just install and ride away.

Oh, and for the record: even though it's advertised as a "slip on," the R-77 definitely requires the stock BRP slip joint gasket for installation. So, if you order the Yoshi, also order a gasket (my dealer had it in stock, I see no reason why ALL dealers wouldn't have it in stock, but just FYI).

Bottom line: if you want an aftermarket exhaust, the R-77 is worth your money. If you want something as quiet as the stock exhaust, the R-77 may be your closest bet, but trust me, it'll still be louder than stock.

[daveinva]

Hey everyone-- thanks for all the offers, in this thread and via PM, but let me make myself clear, I *love* my R-77, I have no interest in getting rid of it.

I was just noting some peculiarities, that's all.

[Riker]

hehe, love mine too !! also have baffle installed.. When I first started it without, the sound kind of echoed around the townhome buildings. I was like, hummm, let me tune that down some, lol

Great choice though, they look great!!

[gfd1182]

The R-77 is one of Yoshimura's louder exhaust systems. One of the selling points of this model is 'Maximized muffler volume'. Not the greatest selling point if you're looking for quiet.

The RS-3 is the quietest Yoshimura version. That is the one I am using. It is quieter because it is longer. 18"-20" as opposed to the much shorter R-77's 12"-14" length. That is roughly 30% longer.

I was not able to find a db rating for any of these mufflers and it really depends on the application as to exactly what you'll end up with. But relatively speaking the RS-3 should be noticeably quieter than the R-77, the 20" version being the least noisy.

Yoshimura recommends repacking at 7k-10k. This typically assumes that you're riding it like a crotch rocket all the time.

Hey bajaron,
where can I get the yoshi rs-3 from? Is it a direct slip-on?

[SNOOPY]

If you put extra packing in these mufflers does it quiet them down a bit ?

.

[SNOOPY]

On the Yoshimura site I don't even see a RS-3 listed, only the R-77's, and nothing listed for a ST series Spyder.