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06-06-2013, 01:47 PM
#101
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by MikeT
After spending a many weeks here reading both positive and negative posts and PMs(doing my homework), I come to the following conclusion: It absolutely makes no sense for me to go from my very low mileage '09 GW Trike to a '13 Limited. My reasoing:
a. there is at least a 50/50 chance of getting a 2013 RT-Limited with issues, of one kind or another. Seems like many RT owners prefer the 2012.
b. I have NO local dealer. The dealer in my state with the BEST reputation for both sales and service is 2 hours away by freeway. Expansion of a competent dealer network should be a BRP priority, as GaBK alluded too.
c. Seems like owners spend a signifigant amount of coin adding farkles that should be included as standard equipment, especially on a Limited branded model.
d. An average of 27-30 MPG for a touring machine is just too low. I know there are some that report 33-35 MPG; but they are a minority. Not to mention the preference for mid grade or premium fuel.
e. PMs telling me "Don't Do It", or "You Pay the Money, You Take the Chances" are not confidence inspiring that either BRP or the majority of dealers don't know what's it takes to build or service a reliable $30K trike.
I had really hoped that my desire to evolve to a RT-S SE5 or Limited would have come to a different conclusion. I am developing treatment neccessary OA in my thumbs(L>R) after 40 years of work. It sure would have been nice not to have to clutch and brake with my hands. This riding season will be a water shed year for me.. I will continue to monitor this great forum to see "if the wind changes".
Mike
You make some very valid points for someone viewing the site and trying to make a determination of to buy or not to buy.
I am one who has owned four Spyders since their inception. I got a later model 2008 and a premier edition of the 2010 RT-S of which many say has issues. I now have 32,000 miles on the 2010 RT-S and have not had any major problems with it. My total Spyder miles have now accumulated to 84,000 plus miles.
That said, I am fortunate to have a competent dealer when it comes to mechanics. They have been willing and able to fix any issues I have had. The other bonus, they are close to my home.
Problems with finding a competent dealer to work on the Spyder seems to be the paramount issue to me.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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06-06-2013, 01:50 PM
#102
SpyderLovers Sponsor
Originally Posted by MikeT
After spending a many weeks here reading both positive and negative posts and PMs(doing my homework), I come to the following conclusion: It absolutely makes no sense for me to go from my very low mileage '09 GW Trike to a '13 Limited. My reasoing:
a. there is at least a 50/50 chance of getting a 2013 RT-Limited with issues, of one kind or another. Seems like many RT owners prefer the 2012.
b. I have NO local dealer. The dealer in my state with the BEST reputation for both sales and service is 2 hours away by freeway. Expansion of a competent dealer network should be a BRP priority, as GaBK alluded too.
c. Seems like owners spend a signifigant amount of coin adding farkles that should be included as standard equipment, especially on a Limited branded model.
d. An average of 27-30 MPG for a touring machine is just too low. I know there are some that report 33-35 MPG; but they are a minority. Not to mention the preference for mid grade or premium fuel.
e. PMs telling me "Don't Do It", or "You Pay the Money, You Take the Chances" are not confidence inspiring that either BRP or the majority of dealers don't know what's it takes to build or service a reliable $30K trike.
I had really hoped that my desire to evolve to a RT-S SE5 or Limited would have come to a different conclusion. I am developing treatment neccessary OA in my thumbs(L>R) after 40 years of work. It sure would have been nice not to have to clutch and brake with my hands. This riding season will be a water shed year for me.. I will continue to monitor this great forum to see "if the wind changes".
Mike
Good decision.. Stick with the GW! Just gives us one more vehicle to pass in the twisties!
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06-06-2013, 02:32 PM
#103
Active Member
I've been riding my 2013 RT-Ltd since mid April and now have over 1500 miles on it. Other than a belt vibration issue that was fixed at the 600 mile service, I've had no problems at all with my Spyder. On Monday, I'm leaving for the Owner's Event in Maggie Valley. I riding my Spyder and I anticipate having no problems either going to Maggie Valley or on the way home.
This forum has given me a lot of excellent information on how to maintain and ride my RT. It's been said many times on Spyder Lovers and I agree, a good dealer that has a good mechanic is key to having a trouble-free Spyder. If you don't like the dealer you have now, go find another that will treat you right. After all it's your money.
There is a dealer who is 10 miles from home but I've chosen to use the dealer who's 50 miles from home. Sure it's a little inconvenient to have to drive an hour for service, but so is breaking down on the road. I chose the dealer who's farther away because they wanted my business and were willing to treat me right. Another forum member here has also had the same experience.
Tony
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06-06-2013, 05:12 PM
#104
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by MikeT
coffee ice cream
That's my favorite flavor but hard to find in my area.
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06-06-2013, 05:14 PM
#105
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06-06-2013, 05:21 PM
#106
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06-06-2013, 05:22 PM
#107
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06-06-2013, 05:24 PM
#108
Re: Regret buying this piece so crap !
Originally Posted by BajaRon
Good decision.. Stick with the GW! Just gives us one more vehicle to pass in the twisties!
Ron, that was mean, but I will still wave at you when you are filling up and I go by. Us GW guys need to stick together. Lol
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06-06-2013, 05:29 PM
#109
Originally Posted by akspyderman
You make some very valid points for someone viewing the site and trying to make a determination of to buy or not to buy.
Problems with finding a competent dealer to work on the Spyder seems to be the paramount issue to me.
Thank you for your kind words. The equation for a good ride seems to be the intergration of three factors as I see it:
a. a properly built unit from BRP, and
b. the properly assembled and tested unit from a competent dealer.
c. Reasonable labor charges
And you shouldn't have to frive 100+ miles to achieve that goal.
Mike
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06-06-2013, 05:35 PM
#110
So Dave,
May we refer to you as, "The Local Wing-Nut"?
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06-06-2013, 05:47 PM
#111
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
So Dave,
May we refer to you as, "The Local Wing-Nut"?
Why YES.......I like that.
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06-06-2013, 07:03 PM
#112
Then it's yours; my friend!
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06-06-2013, 07:14 PM
#113
Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
This is the kind of thread that I'd like to see Lamont come in on and deeeeeee-lete! It's not constructive, doesn't support the community and offers mostly heat ... very little light. There are honest questions and concerns across many threads, but blowing off and defaming what 10s of thousands of people own ... wrong.
You complain at length that what is being said here is not to your liking because it offers mostly heat ... very little light. Fortunately this freely expressed collection of opinions, anecdotes, first and second-hand experiences exists in a forum which enables you, if you so wish, to move on to other points of view expressed in other threads. I trust you will find one more to your liking.
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06-06-2013, 09:47 PM
#114
Active Member
Re: Regret buying this piece so crap !
Originally Posted by GuitarPlayer
I've been riding my 2013 RT-Ltd since mid April and now have over 1500 miles on it. Other than a belt vibration issue that was fixed at the 600 mile service, I've had no problems at all with my Spyder. On Monday, I'm leaving for the Owner's Event in Maggie Valley. I riding my Spyder and I anticipate having no problems either going to Maggie Valley or on the way home.
This forum has given me a lot of excellent information on how to maintain and ride my RT. It's been said many times on Spyder Lovers and I agree, a good dealer that has a good mechanic is key to having a trouble-free Spyder. If you don't like the dealer you have now, go find another that will treat you right. After all it's your money.
There is a dealer who is 10 miles from home but I've chosen to use the dealer who's 50 miles from home. Sure it's a little inconvenient to have to drive an hour for service, but so is breaking down on the road. I chose the dealer who's farther away because they wanted my business and were willing to treat me right. Another forum member here has also had the same experience.
Tony
I'm jealous Tony! Wish I could go too but work, work, work. Enjoy the ryde!
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Name: Eric Heims
Red 2016 RTS, Diamond R Armrests, Ram X Mount, Doc Humphreys Dampener, BajaRon Swaybar, Spyderpops "Critter Splitter"
"It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt." John Philpot Curran 1790
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06-06-2013, 10:22 PM
#115
Originally Posted by DaveNur
DREAM ON
You're kidding? Right.
Any self respecting duce in the back rider will tell you it's a fact.
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06-06-2013, 10:26 PM
#116
Originally Posted by DaveNur
DREAM ON
Dream on? A GW trike is no match for a Spyder twistie or straightaway.
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06-13-2013, 09:47 PM
#117
Originally Posted by BajaRon
Good decision.. Stick with the GW! Just gives us one more vehicle to pass in the twisties!
If you don't go into limp mode...just saying..................!!:>)
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07-17-2013, 03:35 PM
#118
Gremlins
Since I am actively looking for a Spyder RT and live in PA, a NJ neighbor, perhaps you can tell us either the name of the problematic dealer or at the very least, the town location.
Thank you,
Michael
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07-17-2013, 04:12 PM
#119
Originally Posted by dave01
Ron, that was mean, but I will still wave at you when you are filling up and I go by. Us GW guys need to stick together. Lol
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And you Gold Wingers will keep on trying to pick the scoot up if it goes down and still have to push it to get into reverse most of the time or whatever..Why do you feel the need to put down others that want to ride what they want to?
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07-17-2013, 04:54 PM
#120
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07-17-2013, 07:35 PM
#121
Every bike made
Every bike made breaks sometime. So if you don't like it just sell it!
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07-17-2013, 07:50 PM
#122
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07-17-2013, 07:53 PM
#123
Active Member
Originally Posted by shelbydave
100% agree!!
17 F3 Limited (Pearl White), Sena 10C intercom, X Grip iPhone mount, IPS key, spyder to go cup holder, Lamonster Highway Center Lane, TricLED engine lights, TricLED night rider, LS2 Helmets, Lamonster Bypass pipe, 2 Brothers Exhaust, mirror relocator kit, Bluetooth radio module, OEM Backrest, Rear LED Light Kit
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07-17-2013, 08:44 PM
#124
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by odyssey009
Since I am actively looking for a Spyder RT and live in PA, a NJ neighbor, perhaps you can tell us either the name of the problematic dealer or at the very least, the town location.
Thank you,
Michael
Odessy...i'm not sure what dealer or which unhappy guy you are refering to.... One of the dealers is up in North jersey....
I'm in south jersey and take my bike to J & J powersports in DE. Small shop, but good guys and good service. Ask for Jim.
I bought mine in MO...thats a whole judder story..
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Inline 4 cylinder Ford Zetec with multi-port fuel inject, 140 HP
0-60mph: 5.8 seconds
5 speed sync manual with reverse, mechanical dry clutch.
Front suspension: Trapezoidal fork with center spring
Rear suspension: Independent with Bilstein gas shock absorbers
Brake System: Grimeca calipers, linked ventilated discs, with booster
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07-17-2013, 09:53 PM
#125
Someone has to beat my record....
I paid $562.00 for 600 mile service. Edsts's $400 is the next highest I believe. Anyone higher out there?
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