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GL1800 (The Perfect Touring Machine) ?
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Motogordo
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Delanco,N.J. 08075 U.S.A.
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GL1800 (The Perfect Touring Machine)
Oct. 17, 2012
I was just thinking about all the articles about the Harley motorcycles. They are always talking about modifications to the engine carburetors, forks, oil coolers, mufflers and many other components. However, I never ever see any articles such as those on the Honda sites. It seems as though the Honda almost never sees the service departments at the dealers. How interesting. Besides an article or two on custom seats for the big and tall men there is nothing else talked about except possibly what Kuryakan chrome goodies can be added to the 900 lbs of PERFECTION.
I think one of the things that makes the Harley's popular is the fact that they can do all kinds of service to them. Besides all the chrome that can be added, you can also tweak the carbs and the engine. That is alot of fun for the do it yourselfers. Maybe the Goldwings are too boring for the Harley guys. I can understand that. Variety is the spice of life. I know that first hand since I am ALWAYS trading in my cycles, boats and cars. If I didn't, I would be bored stiff. It's almost as if the Harley's came in kit form for the DIY's. I use to love building kits from scratch. At least the Harley's come completely built, but you can still modify them if you wish to. Kudos to all the Harley riders. Ride and enjoy your machines.
Motogordo
Motogordo
Oct. 18, 2012
I posted this on Honda Trikes and Harley Trikes. I figured I should also post this here on Spyderlovers since I had a 2011 RTS/SE5 for a year. All the Harley riders are always talking about servicing their machines. I now realize that the SPYDERS also had many service problems and technical help was always required. One guy mentioned that it would be really nice if Canam put the GL1800 engine in their Spyders. Maybe after 30 years or so there won't be any issues for the RT. I am sure all types of problems DO get worked out over time. My Spyder was excellent and I had NO mechanical or computer problems after riding 5000 miles in the one year I had it. Kudos to Spyder's. The ONLY reason I traded in my RTS was because my eyes lit up after seeing the 2005 GL1800 Lehman Moncarch II Trike on the showroom floor at "East Coast Cycle Center" of Bensalem,Pa. All the BLING said "Buy Me" and so I did. I try to keep the economy going. As I said once before" I lose money on every trade in deal, but make it up in volume." LOL. I am definitely an impulse buyer.
Motogordo (Gordon L.)
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Last edited by Motogordo; 10-18-2012 at 08:06 AM.
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for a touring machine its much too heavy ..
the 1800 engine is ......278 pounds
ths Rotax Spyder V2 .. 143 pounds
thats it ..
Outlander fairing - Fox-shock - BajaRon Swaybar - Hankook tire/ back - 165/50 Imperial tires front & longer front shocks - GIVI Topase - Shad sidecases -heated grips - new seats
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Originally Posted by chris56
for a touring machine its much too heavy ..
the 1800 engine is ......278 pounds
ths Rotax Spyder V2 .. 143 pounds
thats it ..
10/18/12
I think I was referring to a GL1800 trike where the weight doesn't really matter. Yes, the GL engine is not a light weight. LOL
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I thihk that is this enough cc for one Spyder!!!
Do you wont more pictures?
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
No doubt; the 'Wings are a great ride!
I'd like to see one set up in a reverse trike configuration though. The "conventionals" have some limitations that concern me...
Just don't trike-it by sticking a Roketa front-end on it!
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
No doubt; the 'Wings are a great ride!
I'd like to see one set up in a reverse trike configuration though. The "conventionals" have some limitations that concern me...
Just don't trike-it by sticking a Roketa front-end on it!
10/18/2012
How do you compare the differences between the Spyder and the GL1800 trike when it comes to handling speed and curves and as to which is more likely to lift a wheel if you speed ?
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Originally Posted by Sinisa
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I thihk that is this enough cc for one Spyder!!!
Do you wont more pictures?
THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. Too bad they are not mainstream yet.
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4 Wheels
Originally Posted by Fire Bike
THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. Too bad they are not mainstream yet.
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Originally Posted by Sinisa
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I thihk that is this enough cc for one Spyder!!!
Do you wont more pictures?
Heck Yes! With some details too!
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Originally Posted by Motogordo
10/18/2012
How do you compare the differences between the Spyder and the GL1800 trike when it comes to handling speed and curves and as to which is more likely to lift a wheel if you speed ?
Motorcycle steering is designed for vehicles which "bank" or lean into curves. Three wheeled platforms don't do that. You can paint them up and cover them with bling, but the engineering of conventional trikes is still wrong. My old GS SE5 easily outperforms the local triker guys in the twisties ( although I do admit to beefing up the suspension). I'm not saying that some really skilled trike pilot could not beat me, but I believe the Spyder is the more agile design.
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Originally Posted by Sinisa
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I thihk that is this enough cc for one Spyder!!!
Do you wont more pictures?
I Like It,
What was it before what it is now?
Who did the customizing?
How much would this set you back?
More pictures please.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Lifting a wheel was never mentioned by me.
I was concerned more about the potential for "head shake" on the conventionals if you hit something funky in the road... I was also curious about the tendancy for conventionals to push the front end in the twisties...
Oct. 18, 2012
One thing I did learn about the GL Trikes is that if you hit something in the road or go over a manhole cover, make sure you go over it with the front wheel and not the rear wheels. It jumps alot less when you do that. I am learning more and more each day from riding and also from the cycle forums. The only bug that I find with the solid axle is when you hit bumps in the road you do the "Shimmy Shake". I guess there is nothing you can do about that unless you change to an Independent Rear Suspension. The IRS definitely smooths out the bumpy roads. Would you believe that I forgot how my 2011 RTS/SE5 feels compared to the Wing. I believe East Coast Cycle Center still has it for sale. I have never seen sooooo many 's at one location. Also he had about 15 Goldwings for sale. New and used. I already forgot what the front end of the feels like when I hit bumps and make turns. You're right when you say all of us should have Spyders and GL Trikes in our garages. However, that means 2 X $27,000 = $54,000....... If I was married, my wife would probably leave me due to more interest in the Motor Toys then her. LOL
By the way, does the RTS/SE5 have front wheel independent suspension ? Also, does the drive shaft connect to both or only one wheel and is it a live axle ? I don't think I ever run out of thoughts. Is that what happens when we have too much time on our hands ? LOL. I was wondering as to which of the two types of cycles are better for long range touring and which is better for short hauls ? As far as bumpy roads and lots of turns, how would you compare the two ?
Gordon L. (Delanco, New Jersey)
Last edited by Motogordo; 10-18-2012 at 10:55 AM.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I was also curious about the tendancy for conventionals to push the front end in the twisties...
I never had that happen with my Tri Glide, The steering 'is'' much heavier on my Tri than the Spyder, and i like it that way.
But like i said a few times before the TRI isn't for every one,!
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GL1800 and RT LTD
My wife bought a 2011 RT LTD last year, while I have been riding a 2005 GL1800 DFT Trike for 7 years. I have loved riding her Spyder so much that I went and bought a 2012 RT LTD at the beginning of August this year. I have to say that I absolutely love the Spyder, but also love the GL1800 Trike as well. The initial plan was to sell one of my toys next spring, but at this point I think I have convinced the wife that we need to keep all of the toys[2005GoldWing trike, 2011 RT LTD and 2012 RT LTD]. I have to say I have the best wife ever.
Rick
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