Issues with Kenda Tires or Not?

[BajaRon]

Note: (Do Not include misalignment, puncture, road damage or other non-tire fault causes in your response.) Include balance issues only if the tire was out of round and therefore, could not be balanced.

Tires are always a hot topic here on Spyderlovers. And for good reason. Tires are our only contact with the surface we ride on. Tires can make a great deal of difference in ride, handling, traction, and overall safety. There are many variables like overall weight, weight distribution, tire pressure, alignment, riding style, weather conditions, extent of wear, and, of course, the tire itself.

Kenda's (the original equipment tire) get a fair amount of bashing here. Deserved or not. And I would say there is a general consensus on the subject, with the always present outliers. But is this based on verifiable evidence, or just group think? I don't have any illusions that this simple poll will resolve anything conclusively. But at the same time, I feel it may add to the discussion with actual numbers.

In the end, I hope you enjoy the results. They could be quite revealing. The more who participate, the more relevant the outcome.

The results are anonymous, so don't be shy. Just tell it like it is in your experience.

[Jesster72]

Wow! First vote

Coming up on 15,000 miles on original rubber and no issues. That being said, I have a General for the rear and two Vredsteins for the fronts in the garage and going to be put on at the spring service. Which I hope is in the next few weeks!

[RayBJ]

I push my machines harder than most and the same is true for my RT. The 1st 1000 miles on the kendas regularly woke up the nanny in the twisties. Based on this forum's expert advice, I switched to quatrac5 all around. Not surprisingly, the nanny became much more docile and let me 'ride my own ride' with far less interference. I can't speak for longevity because I tossed the kendas in the trash at 1000 miles.

[Snoking1127]

Wow! First vote

Coming up on 15,000 miles on original rubber and no issues. That being said, I have a General for the rear and two Vredsteins for the fronts in the garage and going to be put on at the spring service. Which I hope is in the next few weeks!

I put a General out back on my original 2018 with Federal Formozas on the front, and it is back in that configuration with later purchased the PPA wheels and Vredesteins now on the new one. I will be replacing the rear tire on the second one in the fall. So it appears that both General and Vredestein has a size for the rear, so I am curious why you choose the General and not the Vredestein for the rear, as I was considering a Vredestein for the rear.

I would also note that the Federal, General and Vredestein tires all show hardly any wear with thousand of miles on them. I have put around 14,000 miles on the first 2018(starting in the fall of 2020) and already 1,700+ on the newer one. All with just local day rides.

[BajaRon]

I put a General out back on my original 2018 with Federal Formozas on the front, and it is back in that configuration with later purchased the PPA wheels and Vredesteins now on the new one. I will be replacing the rear tire on the second one in the fall. So it appears that both General and Vredestein has a size for the rear, so I am curious why you choose the General and not the Vredestein for the rear, as I was considering a Vredestein for the rear.

The General is a 215 cross section. The Vredestein is a 205 cross section. Most like the wider look.

[Snoking1127]

I push my machines harder than most and the same is true for my RT. The 1st 1000 miles on the kendas regularly woke up the nanny in the twisties. Based on this forum's expert advice, I switched to quatrac5 all around. Not surprisingly, the nanny became much more docile and let me 'ride my own ride' with far less interference. I can't speak for longevity because I tossed the kendas in the trash at 1000 miles.

I never had a cornering nanny issue, however the Kendas on the front would feel like they were getting pushed out in hard corners and they hook back the other direction. Not a nice feeling!

[Jesster72]

I put a General out back on my original 2018 with Federal Formozas on the front, and it is back in that configuration with later purchased the PPA wheels and Vredesteins now on the new one. I will be replacing the rear tire on the second one in the fall. So it appears that both General and Vredestein has a size for the rear, so I am curious why you choose the General and not the Vredestein for the rear, as I was considering a Vredestein for the rear.
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No real reason, since this is my first Spyder and my first tire change on it. I read a ton of threads on here, and it seemed most were happy with either out back. I think BajaRon mentioned the Altimax 45 was a good fit recently, so I grabbed one. The Vredsteins on front seem to get an overwhelming nod of approval, so that one was pretty clear cut for me.

[AndysF3S]

No issues with my Kenda's so far, (22 F3S made in China) yes they push out in high speed corners but I believe there is more than the tire involved there. I think this is a good survey but it might help if the responders included the year the tire was made and where (country of origin).
The Kenda website indicates that their headquarters are in Taiwan and have seven manufacturing plants - including one in Taiwan, one in Indonesia, two in Vietnam and three in China; and a North American subsidiary, American Kenda Rubber Co. Ltd.
They have the new Kanine KR20 (BRP tire) so it would be interesting to see if any of the newer Spyders are coming with the KR20 and if the owners feel they are as good as or better than the original? Just my suggestion and not meant to highjack the thread.

[Yabbadabbadoo]

I voted that I didn't have any problems with the original Kendas. I got 10,000 miles or so out of the original rear tire and when I replaced it I replaced the front tires at the same time.
Put on Vredestein Quatracs all around.
What I noticed with the new tires was better performance - better handling, better side grip in turns, better rear tire traction, better stability on gravel roads. My bike just feels smoother.
The Kendas did okay I guess but the new tires are just so much better I would never go back.

[ARtraveler]

The ONLY issue I had with a Kenda was in 2014 when they introduced the new 1330/3. They came with OEM Kenda with softer rubber. Most noted 4K to 6K miles and then a replacement was needed. I got 8.9K from my rear Kenda.

In 200K miles on 7 spyders, I went through several sets of Kendas. NEVER a problem with any other than the rear tire middle wear...which I felt went away by adjusting the pressure down to 26#. I consistently got 15K on the rear tires and 20K on the fronts. I tried two others as "tests." Federals one time, but traded off before they were worn out. K9's one time. Sold that bike with only a couple K miles on that set.

I have sold my spyders, so I am out of the tire game. They worked for me, and I have no complaint about them. I am not mechanical, so I needed to have my tires replaced by dealers or those knowledgeable about such things.

See my signature for the full picture.

[woods]

Folks are generally anti stock tire I think. Harley riders call there's Dunflops! I got 12,000 out of the Kenda and feel that is good for any bike rear tire. Cold, heat, or toad strangling rain, I was never uncomfortable with the feel of the tire. Are there better? Of course! No vehicle maker of any kind puts premium tires on new ones, my Chevy included.

[Cobwebs]

I think what we are going to get here are mistaken comments about how much better smoother etc new car tyres felt to those who swapped over from Kendas.
Of the dozens of sets of new tyres on everything from slot cars to Kenworths that I've ever replaced regardless of the brand, every single time they are newly balanced with even tread, equal pressures, usually newly aligned geometry. If they didn't feel "new' there was something else worn that needed looking at. Easy to assume it's the new tyres that are superior to the replacements, Kenda or not.
The compound in the Kendas that no one has the tyre wear numbers of by the way (it's not stated anywhere so you can't even use it as a starting guide to your replacemnt car tyres) is pretty low just by the grip they give if you push hard cornering or accelerating.
How many understand that if you feel like it's getting squirelly cornering then it's the suspension letting you down more than the tyres? That's why Ron sells gazillions of sway bars.
If you're happy with car tyres that seemingly last forever more power to you, but if you're into other aspects of performance from your spyder don't be fooled by the constant talk of one particular tyre over another, nothing is ever as it seems, and this is a case in point.
I haven't tried the new Vietnamese Kanines yet, but will be trying them soon, the plies are the same amount as the old Chinese Kendas, but it's unknown if they are of a different material, it's very hard to get any information from Kenda, so it's back to seat of your pants to work it out.
Variables alone preclude any tyre from being perfect, I would guesstimate about a 75% happy factor on every single one of them.

[Leaping1]

i bought my 2011 Can Am RT-S last year with Kenda tires all way around. I don't know how much mileage was on the tires when I bought it but the tires looked like new. In about 3000 miles my rear tire was shot (worn in the middle) replaced with a Kumho which has done well. My front Kendas are holding up really well but plan to change to auto tire later. Am having problems finding the tire I want in 165/65R14. The Kenda Kanine tire does not seem available for the 14" tires.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

i bought my 2011 Can Am RT-S last year with Kenda tires all way around. I don't know how much mileage was on the tires when I bought it but the tires looked like new. In about 3000 miles my rear tire was shot (worn in the middle) replaced with a Kumho which has done well. My front Kendas are holding up really well but plan to change to auto tire later. Am having problems finding the tire I want in 165/65R14. The Kenda Kanine tire does not seem available for the 14" tires.

Well you are in luck .... Vredestein still has the Quatrac 5 in that size ..... @ tire rack .... they ship for free .... The entire Vredestein line is among the highest rated tires we can use .....Mike

[PW2013STL]

On our 2014 that came with the softer compound I had issues with side load in that pushed hard in corners it would skip. Made my wife ill, so I always had to drive slow when she was aboard. Switched to a car tire in the rear at 6000 miles as the Kenda was worn out, and that solved the skipping issue. Front tires at 20,000 miles due to severe cupping.
On my 2020 RT I had to replace the rear at 9000 miles due to an out of round tire that caused it to wear 1/2 of the tire bald (picture a tire with the top half with tread and the bottom half like a drag strip tire).
I now run Vredsteins on all three tires. Great handling tires that also get fantastic wear. On my 2020 I have 81,000 miles on it, and I replaced the front Vredsteins after 56,000 miles (still good tread, but the side tread was getting thin on one). The rear I get 30,000 miles out of them and they still handle my aggressive riding style.
I have a friend who told me he once tried car tires but had them taken off as he stated it didn't handle as well. I was surprised when he called me to ask about the Vredsteins as his dealer was carrying them. I told him that they are now the only tire I ride with. He said that he was going to trust me and have them installed. After 6 weeks I called him and asked if we were still friends due to my tire recommendations. He told me he loved the tires and was totally impressed with the grip as well as how smooth his Spyder now rides.

[BajaRon]

Well you are in luck .... Vredestein still has the Quatrac 5 in that size ..... @ tire rack .... they ship for free .... The entire Vredestein line is among the highest rated tires we can use .....Mike

Your best move is to go to a 15" front wheel. This will give you much better results and tire options that work very well.

Added Note: Any Can-Am Spyder OEM wheel will work. I'm running a 2015 F3 wheel on my 2008 GS. The Spyder not only looks better with a 15" wheel, it rides and handles better as well.

[baxter]

2020 RTL and original tires no issues. 2022 F3L Limited original tires no issues. Ride in all sorts of weather and road conditions.
That's just me....

[Lew L]

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Had to have both front tires replaced within 100 miles. Seriously out of round.

[PURPLEON3]

I'm happy with the Kendas and honestly I get more mileage out of mine than hubby does on his Harley Ultra Limited...for the most part. I have 72,000 miles on my 2018 F3 Limited and have had fronts replaced at 22K (my bad...hit a rock and blew out side wall) 54K (it was time) and need new ones now at 72K (riding to interior Alaska through the Yukon will chew up everyone's tires!). I have had rear tire replaced at 14K, 27K, 42K, 54K, and 61K (wanted to head to Alaska with fresh tread!) and now need a new rear one at 72K. I have three new tires sitting in our garage...this will be my first set of the Kenda Kanines and I'm looking forward to seeing how these feel and wear. Just FYI, a new set of tires for hubby's HD is just over $500...and that's only two tires, lol! So that's my 2 cents.

[Cobwebs]

I'm happy with the Kendas and honestly I get more mileage out of mine than hubby does on his Harley Ultra Limited...for the most part. I have 72,000 miles on my 2018 F3 Limited and have had fronts replaced at 22K (my bad...hit a rock and blew out side wall) 54K (it was time) and need new ones now at 72K (riding to interior Alaska through the Yukon will chew up everyone's tires!). I have had rear tire replaced at 14K, 27K, 42K, 54K, and 61K (wanted to head to Alaska with fresh tread!) and now need a new rear one at 72K. I have three new tires sitting in our garage...this will be my first set of the Kenda Kanines and I'm looking forward to seeing how these feel and wear. Just FYI, a new set of tires for hubby's HD is just over $500...and that's only two tires, lol! So that's my 2 cents.

According to the polling so far 60/40 you new Kanines are going to spontaneously combust at the end of your driveway!

[Snoking1127]

What I see is that those who have only used Kenda tires do not know what they are missing in regard to better handling with tires like the Federal's and Vredestein's. When I first got a Spyder in 2020 I was on I-10 South of Phoenix and being anywhere near a semi-truck had us and the trike getting blown around pretty good. Fast forward 3 years and I still get buffeted around in a semi's wake, but at least now the trike tracks straight.

[DGoebel]

The only issue I had with my '13's Kenda's was incredibly short life span,
here's a pic of my OEM Kenda on the left at 9,000 miles, General Altimax on right at 29,000 miles
Same Spyder, same driver and passenger, you can decide
Kenda on left General on Right.jpg
Same issue on my '18 RTL OEM Kenda didn't make it 8,150 miles before it had to be replaced (with a Vredestein Quatrac)
Here's my 2018 RTL OEM Kenda rear
2018 RTL OEM Kenda Rear tire at 8,150 miles.jpg

[Gwolf]

I voted issues, but not handling or vibration issues. The only issues I have with them is they only last about half as long as the other tires I have replaced them with. I do have issues with having to change tires twice as often as should be nessesary.

[bikerbillone]

Oh yeah, looking forward to these results, I am particularly interested in the Knines but then the poll is not specific, maybe the comments will be helpful.

56K miles on Vredsteins, oh my! That is on big PR sales incentive.

[FrogmanDave]

I think what we are going to get here are mistaken comments about how much better smoother etc new car tyres felt to those who swapped over from Kendas.
Of the dozens of sets of new tyres on everything from slot cars to Kenworths that I've ever replaced regardless of the brand, every single time they are newly balanced with even tread, equal pressures, usually newly aligned geometry. If they didn't feel "new' there was something else worn that needed looking at. Easy to assume it's the new tyres that are superior to the replacements, Kenda or not.

Truer words have never been spoken. Replace your old worn out tires with the exact same new tires and the ride is going to be much, much better.