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Those bolts will not fit down into the hole. The spark plug holes are less than 8mm and the bolts are much larger than that.
Baja Ron offers (https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...rs-amp-Helmets) and most people use the NGK CR7EIX Iridium which has a thread diameter of 10mm https://www.sparkplug-crossreference...eter%3A%2010mm
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2016 Royal Enfield Classic 500 Fair-Weather Mountain Bike
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Originally Posted by Scottncol
Great idea. I would assume that they could use the current ECM, since the engines are the same. Thoughts?
Regardless of where you get an engine, you REALLY NEED to keep your existing Engine Control, Transmission Control, and Dash/Console Modules unless you also change pretty much the rest of the bike!! Your Control Modules are tailored to the Spyder you have - it's not too hard to use BUDS to re-programme them to accept a different engine, probably not even necessary at all if you only change the short motor and stay with the same SE6 gearbox type; but it'll be a SERIOUS PAIN if not completely impossible to make work if you happen to get & install an ECM, a TCM, or a dash/console that comes off a Spyder with a different rear sprocket - and given the year & model of your existing Spyder, that's a pretty high risk!!
So sure, get a new/replacement engine/trans assembly if that's the way you want to go, but I'd suggest that you DO NOT use any other ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console module without making sure that EVERYTHING else between your bike & the donor bike is identical!
Ps: And unless you want to open up yet another absolutely steaming can of worms, it'll be a whole lot easier to do an engine swap if you get another SE6 - unless it's absolutely unavoidable, you really don't want to try to graft in all the semi-auto clutch & shifter arrangements!
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Reason: Added Dash/Console per BR's advice. ;-)
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If I am looking directly at the gear box on a Spyder, is there a way to tell the difference between the manual and semi-automatic?
i am looking for engines on ebay and they are all 1330's but the gear box looks different and there nothing in the description of the engine that tells me if its manual or semi.
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Hello Scott, I have found this so interesting. As I have mentioned earlier, I believe that you got a steal if the price was right for the to start with, even if you have to go through a bit of pain now. So when you get it sorted out and running you will have a good machine; the only thing that makes me cringe is the tow bar on your F3S that I have seen in the picture, as I don't believe they are suited to tow, unlike the F3T or RT's which have that ability, but as I mentioned that's just my opinion.
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2019 Can Am Spyder F3S
ICSI Ride Hand Brake Kit as my right leg and foot does not work that well due to MS
The Ultimate F3 Floorboard
Baja Ron Sway Bar
Shad Saddle Bags
Lamonster F3 PACKRACK
SHAD 58X in Carbon finish - Expandable TOP Case
Pedal Box
IPS Belt Tensioner and Handlebar Riser from Lamonster
K&N air filter
INNOVV K5
Wilbers Nite Line Shocks
RLS Cat Delete
Floating Rotors with EBC Brakes for the front
I am now broke
I Should mention the Boss has a 900 Ryker Ralli next to my bike
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Originally Posted by Latrappe
Hello Scott, I have found this so interesting. As I have mentioned earlier, I believe that you got a steal if the price was right for the to start with, even if you have to go through a bit of pain now. So when you get it sorted out and running you will have a good machine; the only thing that makes me cringe is the tow bar on your F3S that I have seen in the picture, as I don't believe they are suited to tow, unlike the F3T or RT's which have that ability, but as I mentioned that's just my opinion.
You have my word, as soon as I get this running, that is the first thing to go!
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2019 Can Am Spyder F3S
ICSI Ride Hand Brake Kit as my right leg and foot does not work that well due to MS
The Ultimate F3 Floorboard
Baja Ron Sway Bar
Shad Saddle Bags
Lamonster F3 PACKRACK
SHAD 58X in Carbon finish - Expandable TOP Case
Pedal Box
IPS Belt Tensioner and Handlebar Riser from Lamonster
K&N air filter
INNOVV K5
Wilbers Nite Line Shocks
RLS Cat Delete
Floating Rotors with EBC Brakes for the front
I am now broke
I Should mention the Boss has a 900 Ryker Ralli next to my bike
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Originally Posted by Scottncol
If I am looking directly at the gear box on a Spyder, is there a way to tell the difference between the manual and semi-automatic?
i am looking for engines on ebay and they are all 1330's but the gear box looks different and there nothing in the description of the engine that tells me if its manual or semi.
Check out Bert Remington's recommendation back in post #9 - He's put in the effort, gone out of his way to help you in researching this, and found that engine. It is out of a 2016 F3 with an 89T rear sprocket like yours, so as far as we can see, it should be a direct replacement for your current engine without any ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console mis-match issues...
Just sayin'
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Originally Posted by Peter Aawen
Check out Bert Remington's recommendation back in post #9 - He's put in the effort, gone out of his way to help you in researching this, and found that engine. It is out of a 2016 F3 with an 89T rear sprocket like yours, so as far as we can see, it should be a direct replacement for your current engine without any ECM, TCM, or Dash/Console mis-match issues...
Just sayin'
I agree. Great engine.
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I agree with Peter above.
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'20 Spyder F3 L
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Picked up a used engine.
1096 miles.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Scottncol
Picked up a used engine.
1096 miles.
Thanks.
That ain't even broke in yet.
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Originally Posted by EdMat
That ain't even broke in yet.
The front of the bike was rather smashed up but the engine was in great shape.
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Congrats on the new motor...
New to Sue and I
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Hello Scott, that is awesome mate that is good news for you, keep us posted on how it all works for you mate.
2019 Can Am Spyder F3S
ICSI Ride Hand Brake Kit as my right leg and foot does not work that well due to MS
The Ultimate F3 Floorboard
Baja Ron Sway Bar
Shad Saddle Bags
Lamonster F3 PACKRACK
SHAD 58X in Carbon finish - Expandable TOP Case
Pedal Box
IPS Belt Tensioner and Handlebar Riser from Lamonster
K&N air filter
INNOVV K5
Wilbers Nite Line Shocks
RLS Cat Delete
Floating Rotors with EBC Brakes for the front
I am now broke
I Should mention the Boss has a 900 Ryker Ralli next to my bike
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Good job, get her in and running!!!
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Hi Scott, I hope this all works out for you mate just keep us posted as I mentioned earlier, I am super interested in the outcome, for you mate as it seems to be working out for you hopefully not to long and you will be riding your very own
2019 Can Am Spyder F3S
ICSI Ride Hand Brake Kit as my right leg and foot does not work that well due to MS
The Ultimate F3 Floorboard
Baja Ron Sway Bar
Shad Saddle Bags
Lamonster F3 PACKRACK
SHAD 58X in Carbon finish - Expandable TOP Case
Pedal Box
IPS Belt Tensioner and Handlebar Riser from Lamonster
K&N air filter
INNOVV K5
Wilbers Nite Line Shocks
RLS Cat Delete
Floating Rotors with EBC Brakes for the front
I am now broke
I Should mention the Boss has a 900 Ryker Ralli next to my bike
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Originally Posted by Latrappe
Hello Scott, I have found this so interesting. As I have mentioned earlier, I believe that you got a steal if the price was right for the to start with, even if you have to go through a bit of pain now. So when you get it sorted out and running you will have a good machine; the only thing that makes me cringe is the tow bar on your F3S that I have seen in the picture, as I don't believe they are suited to tow, unlike the F3T or RT's which have that ability, but as I mentioned that's just my opinion.
It has been removed and is up for sale.. great advice, thanks!
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Actually all Spyders can tow with no problem, they were designed from the beginning to be able to tow unlike all other motorcycles and trikes. Although many of them do and very successfully. If you don't want to tow that is fine but it will do it.
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Originally Posted by pegasus1300
Actually all Spyders can tow with no problem, they were designed from the beginning to be able to tow unlike all other motorcycles and trikes. Although many of them do and very successfully. If you don't want to tow that is fine but it will do it.
Great info, thanks!
I would never need to tow, so off it comes.
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Originally Posted by Scottncol
Picked up a used engine.
1096 miles.
Thanks.
Looks like a good engine let us know how it runs after the transplant.
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Originally Posted by AndysF3S
Looks like a good engine let us know how it runs after the transplant.
Will do. Can't wait but it may be a week or two.
Edit: Here's a link to the engine transplant thread:
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...eing-installed
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