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What happens if I swap sides with Directional tires?
OK.....My car tires on the front of my 2014 ST Are wearing great.....Got aprox. 25 thousand miles on em. NOW....They are starting to wear on the insides a bit. Looks even.................SO What happens if I simply swap sides with em? TYIA For the Info.
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Seems to me since they're not uni-directional, they can be rotated
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If both are wearing on the inside. Swapping isn't going to help. That's an alignment issue. Too much Toe-Out. You may have some worn parts. As you get slop in the steering components. Force going down the road makes the wheels want to splay outward. Giving you wear on the inside of the tires.
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OK..... But it looks like if they were rotated side to side that they would even out the wear in time? What happens if a directional tire is run backwards? TY
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 04-16-2023 at 08:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by TONYO
OK.....But it looks like if they were rotated side to side that they would even out the wear in time? What happens if a directional tire is ran backwards? TY
If you are talking about unmounting them and swapping sides then the inside edge will be outside and vice versa. This would make them last longer. You do not want to run a directional tire in the reverse direction. The water displacement will be backwards and that is a bad thing.
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TY I am talkin bout just swapin em side to side. The water thing would not be a problem for me. I never ride in the rain. Modern weather radar makes it easy to avoid rain the way I ride. TY For the info.
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You asked for advice on this but dont seem to be picking up the answers.
In a nutshell.
Fitting directional tires backwards, or in your case "just swaping em side to side"
( I guess thats the whole wheel and tire assembly and no actually swapping the tire from 1 rim to the other)
Is very dumb and extremely stupid thing to do.
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If you do not have any frontend or steering issues, then flipping them and remounting them is a good idea.
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WELL....Bless your heart and ty for the advice.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 03-04-2024 at 09:07 AM.
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Agreed. Ima try it and see. Got nothing to lose really. They are easy to take off and put back on. TY
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 03-04-2024 at 09:07 AM.
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Originally Posted by TONYO
Agreed. Ima try it n see. Got nothing to lose really.They are easy to take off n put back on. TY
If you are simply going to swap wheels to the other side, once you do that, look closely and you’ll see that the inside of the tire is still on the inside. You’ll still be wearing on the inside. You’re not accomplishing what you want to do. Go out to your Spyder and do a walk through. Then it’ll be clear.
If you want to swap the inside of the tire with the outside, in order to even out the wear, then you need to un-mount the tire and turn it around on the wheel. Then what used to be on the inside is now on the outside. And by swapping right to left, then the tires will then rotate in the correct direction with the arrow on the sidewall.
Last edited by Snowbelt Spyder; 04-14-2023 at 12:52 PM.
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O MY! LOL At me! You are so correct. Dont know what I was thinkin. SO SORRY. Thanks everbody. Embarrassed! SMH At ME!
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Hallelujah!
If it was my ride I would fit new tires and get an alignment done.
Then it will be all Tickety-Boo.
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Last edited by Isopedella; 04-14-2023 at 01:04 PM.
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yup. tire stores call this "pull thru and remount on opposite sides"
Ride safe; shiny side up, greasy side down.
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Last edited by Peter Aawen; 04-14-2023 at 08:54 PM.
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Not sure how this got so complicated. Should be a simple answer.
I think we have established the fact that directional tires are not designed to run backwards. Hence, the directional arrows on the sidewall and the descriptive name. But leaving this issue for the moment. Maybe a visual will help.
If you simply swap sides (take each wheel off and remount on the other side) you're going to end up with the same configuration with your wear pattern on the inside. Think of it this way. The outside of the wheel to tire orientation will not change. The wear area will remain to the inside of the wheel when mounted, no matter which side you put them on.
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However, if you dismount each tire, turn it around and remount it on each wheel. The wear area will move to the outside of the wheel. Giving you the desired results.
Tire4.jpg
The added benefit, in your case, will be that your directional tires will continue to spin in the correct direction.
Now, my only hope is that my attempt at clarification hasn't made things worse!
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OK This is from an old tire company owner retired...It sounds like your front tires are out of alignment here is what I would do
if it were my Spyder mark the tire and wheel have them dismounted and put on the other wheel and put the right tire on the left
and the left on the right this way you have changed sides but kept the rotation correct. be sure and have them dynamically ( spin) balanced
be sure air pressure is correct and then have it aligned... you will be glad you did.
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Last edited by Motorcycledave; 04-16-2023 at 12:52 PM.
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Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
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Kenda Kanine rear.
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Originally Posted by TONYO
OK.....But it looks like if they were rotated side to side that they would even out the wear in time? What happens if a directional tire is run backwards? TY
Don’t know but my kid had them going in the wrong direction. Didn’t know it until he had brake work done.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 04-16-2023 at 08:55 PM.
Reason: Fixed quote display + break - brake ;-)
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Originally Posted by Peteoz
Send them down here, 2dogs. We put them on upside down, so there is plenty of wear left in them
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Genius! Why didn't I think of that?
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