steering issues after 2nd update

[SE5spyder]

I had the 2 updates done at the same time Sat. When riding on the way home I felt the steering pull to the right twice. Has anyone experienced this after the updates? Bring it back to dealer?

[Don in E Texas]

Bummer!!

Makes me want to delay the 2nd "fix" as mine is running great after I performed the "canister" mod.

Yes, take it back to the dealer --- you sure do not want steering problems!!

don

[Firefly]

Bummer!!

Makes me want to delay the 2nd "fix" as mine is running great after I performed the "canister" mod.

Yes, take it back to the dealer --- you sure do not want steering problems!!

don

And if it ain't broke--- don't fix it---- at least as far as the canister mod and the 2nd update goes!

[eureka]

I got my bike back Saturday from the dealer after a dps unit repacement. I got about 20 miles on it when it went into limp mode and scrolled DPS unit failure on the dash. Back to the dealer I went and another 400 mile round trip wasted.

[ataDude]

Actually, after the first update ONLY and after about 3-400 miles, I began to have similar issues on Saturday... except it was "blocking" me on left turns.

I took it to my dealer... Richardson MotorSports. They jumped on it as soon as I hit the door... they applied the second "fix"... as well as clear a couple of error codes... and now everything is right with the world again.

[Bersquack]

I am also starting to see problems. No surging or hesitation, but one in a while the steering column will start shaking. I did not check tire pressure yet, but being an intermittent problem I would be surprised it would be due to tire pressure. It also happens at various speeds and on different types of road condition.

I'll get the second update done before I put mine away for the winter...

[Smylinacha]

I had the 2 updates done at the same time Sat. When riding on the way home I felt the steering pull to the right twice. Has anyone experienced this after the updates? Bring it back to dealer?

Yep that happened to me twice in TN and I had the first update before at home. The nice brp man at Lamonster's bbq looked at it and said he found a "steering anomoly" and did the 2nd update and all has been good since (knock on wood). It was freaky too - I had to yank it to the left to get it back in position!

[rubyredz]

Actually, after the first update ONLY and after about 3-400 miles, I began to have similar issues on Saturday... except it was "blocking" me on left turns.

I was driving the spyder and draboo was on his honda and I noticed that there was a "blocking" on turning the wheels left, what a strange feeling. I guess that is what you call it. I would turn to the left and nothing then a sharp turn to the left like a jerking while going down the road, it felt like the wheels were locked in place for a second. I told Draboo and he rode it but it was back to normal. I rode it yesterday and all was well, off for the second update. It's a little frightening when that happens. ruby

[Way2Fast]

In my opinion BRP is barking up the wrong tree with the mandated steering fix recall. Any problems with the bars making a sudden unexpected "pull" to either side is being caused by a computer malfunction in the STABILITY CONTROL system. It appears to be causing the brakes to apply to only one of the two front wheels making the bike pull to the side where the wheel is braking. Ever since the time my Spyder decided to unexpectedly change lanes and go into the opposing traffic, which could have resulted in a head on collision, it spends 99% of it's time as an ornament in my garage !! I wonder how many people have been injured or killed before BRP was forced into doing a recall....which still doesn't appear to fix the inherent problem !

[Smylinacha]

In my opinion BRP is barking up the wrong tree with the mandated steering fix recall. Any problems with the bars making a sudden unexpected "pull" to either side is being caused by a computer malfunction in the STABILITY CONTROL system. It appears to be causing the brakes to apply to only one of the two front wheels making the bike pull to the side where the wheel is braking. Ever since the time my Spyder decided to unexpectedly change lanes and go into the opposing traffic, which could have resulted in a head on collision, it spends 99% of it's time as an ornament in my garage !! I wonder how many people have been injured or killed before BRP was forced into doing a recall....which still doesn't appear to fix the inherent problem !

OK so then all we gotta do is yank the vss. Someone will come up with a way on how - just might take a little time

[slather1]

Had the recall done and the Spyder is now pulling or sticking to the right. Try to adjust and nothing happens and then it will jerk to left. Did not do recall 2, 2300 miles on 08 SE

[Way2Fast]

Had the recall done and the Spyder is now pulling or sticking to the right. Try to adjust and nothing happens and then it will jerk to left. Did not do recall 2, 2300 miles on 08 SE

Submit a complaint to the NHTSA. You can do it on line. I just completed mine and I had to advise them that the Can-Am Spyder Roadster IS NOT A CAR OR TRUCK. it is a 3 wheel trike that should be listed under motorcycles and not cars and trucks. Talk about lack of knowledge, but what else can we expect from the government !!

[Firefly]

In my opinion BRP is barking up the wrong tree with the mandated steering fix recall. Any problems with the bars making a sudden unexpected "pull" to either side is being caused by a computer malfunction in the STABILITY CONTROL system. It appears to be causing the brakes to apply to only one of the two front wheels making the bike pull to the side where the wheel is braking. Ever since the time my Spyder decided to unexpectedly change lanes and go into the opposing traffic, which could have resulted in a head on collision, it spends 99% of it's time as an ornament in my garage !! I wonder how many people have been injured or killed before BRP was forced into doing a recall....which still doesn't appear to fix the inherent problem !

I know that is your opinion - but you're stating it as fact--- which has not been confirmed. I really don't think this is VSS related.

Since you no longer have your DPS turned on - if you are correct about the VSS causing the problem - then turning the DPS off should NOT have 'fixed' your problem.

Is your Spyder still acting up with the DPS turned off?

If not --- then your theory is pretty much busted......

[Way2Fast]

I know that is your opinion - but you're stating it as fact--- which has not been confirmed. I really don't think this is VSS related.

Since you no longer have your DPS turned on - if you are correct about the VSS causing the problem - then turning the DPS off should NOT have 'fixed' your problem.

Is your Spyder still acting up with the DPS turned off?

If not --- then your theory is pretty much busted......

I'm basing my "theory" on the fact that my DPS has never worked from day one, yet I still had the vehicle pull to the left and make a lane change. When operational, the DPS seems to try and prevent a correction on the part of the driver AFTER the unintended change of direction. I'm afraid that having the DPS fuses pulled will not prevent the unintended directional changes from occuring in the first place.

You ask...."is my Spyder still acting up with the DPS turned off ?" ...Since my second seering mishap, I haven't taken it out of the roads in my developement to risk finding out and probably won't.

[spyryder]

I'm basing my "theory" on the fact that my DPS has never worked from day one, yet I still had the vehicle pull to the left and make a lane change. When operational, the DPS seems to try and prevent a correction on the part of the driver AFTER the unintended change of direction. I'm afraid that having the DPS fuses pulled will not prevent the unintended directional changes from occuring in the first place.

You ask...."is my Spyder still acting up with the DPS turned off ?" ...I haven't taken it out of the roads in my developement to risk finding out and probably won't.

How many miles on your Spyder?

[boborgera]

I never had a probelm with my steering, At about 5k I ajusted my front
shocks [only] one noch up, I IMMEDIATEY went for a ride and as soon as i
pulled off my driveway the steering locked. Had to pull hard to turn left.
Felt a click before it turned. I just though the computer had to learn the new setting, So after a hundred miles or so it went back to normal.
Did the recall at 6.5k. Have 9+K now. But twice after the recall when
slowing down for a red light it slid to right [like i was on ice] I had to turn
hard to the left [click again]. Just did two hunderd miles this Sunday steering worked fine. I'm thinking maybe the front right brake is locking by
it's self, that would pull the bike to the right.

[Longlegs]

I didnt think the second update had anything to do with the steering. I thought it was just to address engine running issues. The second update was supposed to be optional. If this steering issue is still occuring after the recall, BRP and NHTSB ought to be notified the recall doesn't work. From what I gathered from my conversation with Carlo the recall is the only fix they have for this.

[gazey]

In my opinion BRP is barking up the wrong tree with the mandated steering fix recall. Any problems with the bars making a sudden unexpected "pull" to either side is being caused by a computer malfunction in the STABILITY CONTROL system. It appears to be causing the brakes to apply to only one of the two front wheels making the bike pull to the side where the wheel is braking. Ever since the time my Spyder decided to unexpectedly change lanes and go into the opposing traffic, which could have resulted in a head on collision, it spends 99% of it's time as an ornament in my garage !! I wonder how many people have been injured or killed before BRP was forced into doing a recall....which still doesn't appear to fix the inherent problem !

I have niticed while riding in the twisties that when the VSS kicks in to brake either front wheel I can hear the pads on the disc quite clearly.
Have you or anyone else noticed this very distinct brake noise during these "steering anomalies" It might just help pinpoint whether the problem is DPS or VSS.

[Smylinacha]

Nope, all I heard was a popping noise once I got the steering back to center.

No break or break pad noise at all w/ my situation.

I have niticed while riding in the twisties that when the VSS kicks in to brake either front wheel I can hear the pads on the disc quite clearly.
Have you or anyone else noticed this very distinct brake noise during these "steering anomalies" It might just help pinpoint whether the problem is DPS or VSS.

[louisbasle]

After reading all about the steering problems some are having, I feel real lucky. I haven't had any of the problems. I had the dealer updates completed. the dealer seems to know his stuff. (Seymours Motorized Sports, Latham NY). I hope everybody gets their problems corrected, as for me I have 5K and so far so good...