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    Cool anyone with a "don't mess with my spyder" system?

    So I'm looking for any suggestions on how to "electrify" my so that if anyone messes with it while I'm in the store or work the system will shock the pee out of them. Maybe a Taser type of system while it's parked.

    I went on my first long ride today with a group and we stopped at a festival. There were 8 bikes so we parked across the street of the event and I backed in and put my parking brake on (2 clicks). We were on a small hill and after we parked we stood around and talked and stretched for about 10 minutes then we walked up the hill to the event.

    After we get up the hill a lady on a cell phone said my bike was rolling and her son was down there holding it. The kid told me he didn't want it hitting "a piece of car" so he held it until help came Luckily another member from my group had gone back down the hill and had re-set the brake and turned the handles so by the time I got back down there everything was fine. (I guess that's another good thing about being a Spyder owner....people notice you!

    Now I know good and well I set my brake and it had 10 minutes or so to roll while we were there so do you think it was the brake or someone messing with it? I've never had an issue with the brake before but I have had to "educate" people about messing with my without my permission. Most people do ask if they can sit on it...especially other bikers, but there are some out that that just climb on or try to climb on. Anyone else had/have this problem?

    So I think until the Spyders become more "main stream" and people aren't so curious about it we should have some sort of "aversion therapy" for those inconsiderate clods out there that don't respect other people's property.

    Thanks for letting me vent. I LOVE my !!!

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    Just put an alarm on it with a proximity sensor. Lots of noise.

    I assume you're half kidding about what you described. Don't go there... you could lose everything you owned (now and future) in the event someone was hurt or killed.

    Plus, if it was a kiddo (whose parents were really at fault for lack of control), how would you feel?

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    Get one of these:

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    Nope they can have it that is what my INS is fore

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
    Just put an alarm on it with a proximity sensor. Lots of noise.

    I assume you're half kidding about what you described. Don't go there... you could lose everything you owned (now and future) in the event someone was hurt or killed.

    Plus, if it was a kiddo (whose parents were really at fault for lack of control), how would you feel?
    Don't be vindictive, it could bite you on the behind. Use an alarm system if need be.

    Reminds me of a story my old man told about when he was a kid. There was an old man who drove his Model T to town every Sunday to buy the newspaper. My Dad and his brother, being the tweenage terrors they were, thought it would be great to rig up a Model T coil to the door handle to shock the old gent. They diod so, and when the guy came out and grabbed the handle he got shocked...and fell over on the sidewalk, out cold. My Dad and my uncle thought they killed him, and ran home and hid in the barn for hours. They found out later he had just fainted, but they never pulled a practical joke again as long as either of them lived.

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    Also, leave it in gear. It wont roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shansmow View Post
    ... and put my parking brake on (2 clicks). We were on a small hill and after we parked we stood around and talked and stretched for about 10 minutes then we walked up the hill to the event.

    After we get up the hill a lady on a cell phone said my bike was rolling ...
    This type of lock can avoid that problem:



    I described it in an old post:

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    A couple of years ago My Boss Hoss Trike was parked just outside of Walmart. It was just before Christmas, and there was a Salvation Army guy outside and he stopped me and asked a few questions. When I come out of the store he told me a young mother has set her 2 or 3 yr old daughter on it to take her picture. As she was getting off she got her hand against the chrome cover over the headers. Can you imagine how hot the headers are on a V8 motor. She supposedly burnt her hand real bad. They never entered the store. and they supposedly went to the emergency room. I know I had burnt skin on my cover. I bet they never again messed with someones bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shansmow View Post
    So I'm looking for any suggestions on how to "electrify" my so that if anyone messes with it while I'm in the store or work the system will shock the pee out of them. Maybe a Taser type of system while it's parked.

    I went on my first long ride today with a group and we stopped at a festival. There were 8 bikes so we parked across the street of the event and I backed in and put my parking brake on (2 clicks). We were on a small hill and after we parked we stood around and talked and stretched for about 10 minutes then we walked up the hill to the event.

    After we get up the hill a lady on a cell phone said my bike was rolling and her son was down there holding it. The kid told me he didn't want it hitting "a piece of car" so he held it until help came Luckily another member from my group had gone back down the hill and had re-set the brake and turned the handles so by the time I got back down there everything was fine. (I guess that's another good thing about being a Spyder owner....people notice you!

    Now I know good and well I set my brake and it had 10 minutes or so to roll while we were there so do you think it was the brake or someone messing with it? I've never had an issue with the brake before but I have had to "educate" people about messing with my without my permission. Most people do ask if they can sit on it...especially other bikers, but there are some out that that just climb on or try to climb on. Anyone else had/have this problem?

    So I think until the Spyders become more "main stream" and people aren't so curious about it we should have some sort of "aversion therapy" for those inconsiderate clods out there that don't respect other people's property.

    Thanks for letting me vent. I LOVE my !!!
    Well--- if you electrified it--- the young man wouldn't have been able to help stop it from running away. My parking brake doesn't seem to work correct right now--- only time I use it is for warming the bike up while in neutral while on a slope. Leaving the bike in gear is the best policy.

    I have an alarm--- but rarely use it.

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    With a taser type system - welcome to prison.. The lawsuits alone would make it a huge headache. An alarm would make sense, I haven't had any issues, but everyone lives in different areas. You'll figure something out, good luck.

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    Only James Bond gets away with electrified and exploding vehicles. And he's British.
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    "so do you think it was the brake or someone messing with it? "

    It was the brake. I had the same thing happen outside a motel in Arkansas. The Spyder decided to go for a spin on its own. Backed itself out went across the parking lot made a U turn and backed itself into a parking spot on the other side of the lot and stopped rolling. Helpful and amazed bystanders hit the kill switch.

    The parking brake is the most ill designed system on the early Spyders.

    I am not a big fan of tazering people for touching an inanimate objects. I keep hoping somebody steals mine so I can get a new RT.

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    I wish that when you locked the front wheel it did more than lock it turned askew but truly locked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shansmow View Post
    So I'm looking for any suggestions on how to "electrify" my so that if anyone messes with it while I'm in the store or work the system will shock the pee out of them. Maybe a Taser type of system while it's parked.

    I went on my first long ride today with a group and we stopped at a festival. There were 8 bikes so we parked across the street of the event and I backed in and put my parking brake on (2 clicks).
    . . . . until you forget to deactivate the security system and get your Spyder.

    Every Spyder seems to be a little different, and there is a lot of variety in the parking brakes between machines and over time. My two cents is that two clicks is not enough - especially on an incline.

    When I park on an incline and set the brake, while still mounted, I stand and give the handlebars a pull with my whole body to make sure it is set for the conditions. I know on my Spyder, two clicks would not be enough.

    I also agree with the good advice above - an automatic punitive device is not a good idea. While I was walking away from my Spyder in a supermarket parking lot, a little ( 3 or 4 years old ) kid broke away from his parents and ran up to the Spyder and tried to get on it. Before his dad could grab him, he burned himself on the exhaust. It was not bad, but it could have been. The parents were very apologetic and I was too, but I can just imagine the terrible consequences for the kid and me if I had tasered him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom in NM View Post
    Every Spyder seems to be a little different, and there is a lot of variety in the parking brakes between machines and over time. My two cents is that two clicks is not enough - especially on an incline.

    When I park on an incline and set the brake, while still mounted, I stand and give the handlebars a pull with my whole body to make sure it is set for the conditions. I know on my Spyder, two clicks would not be enough.
    If your parking brake won't hold at 2-3 clicks, it needs to be adjusted. You actually should not be able to push it down more than 2-3 clicks. You may have to do the adjustment fairly often as the brake pads wear. If your brake won't release properly when fully set, try lubing it, or see your dealer. Early Spyders had a parking brake problems, and are eligible for replacement parts. Our brake has performed flawlessly since the service bulletin replacement was performed. We use it every single time the Spyder is parked, and also while warming it up.

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    Default Trunk Monkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3wheeldemon View Post
    This type of lock can avoid that problem:




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    This is a good idea where to buy this lock.

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    I had my parking brake fail before.

    There are a few people here with a scorpio alarm system on their bikes. You can do a search and find some info.

    First, get your brake checked by the dealer.

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    I always leave my bike in 1st gear and put the parking brake on. I try to park on leave ground. When I can't I back the bike up so the rear tire is resting on the curb. I've caught people sitting on my bike at the golf course I play at and every time I say to them, " what gives you the right to sit on someones bike with out their approval, how would you feel if I just went and would sit in your car or on your car". I think people feel safer on a Spyder, how many of them would walk up to a Harley and just sit on it. They would be to afraid to because they wouldn't want to be caught from a Harley Dude or Dudette, of fear of getting their head handed to them, but they don't think of that with a Spyder owner, if they even think at all. They just have no respect for other property.

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    First let me apologize to anyone I may offended with my "Taser like" comment. I sometimes forget I'm back in civilized society (OIF 04-05 and 07-09) and I tend to use gallows humor to deal with my frustrations. After caring for America's finest and seeing first hand how people treat others I find myself a bit cynical and less tolerant. Sometimes I fall into the Old Testament mode of "an eye for an eye". But I'm working on getting back to how I was before.

    I just had the at the dealer for it's 600 mile check up last week. I noticed the brake was firmer when I first got it back and I park on an incline at work and have never had trouble with it rolling before or after the servicing. That's what makes me believe someone was messing with it. I have an SE and it is in gear when I turn it off but it's not the same as a manual being in gear.

    Since I can't really get a trunk monkey (darn!) I do like the idea of the lock on the parking brake. How do you attach that?

    Again, apologies and thanks for the support and info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaddog2 View Post
    Nope they can have it that is what my INS is fore
    The bike really can't be started without the key and if someone lifts it, they're gonna do it with no matter what alarm you have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by burg650 View Post
    This is a good idea where to buy this lock.
    Quote Originally Posted by shansmow View Post
    ...I do like the idea of the lock on the parking brake. How do you attach that?....
    Mine is the Onguard 55x55 mm lock (2.2x2.2 in), but I have seen the identical size lock with several other brands on it. Normaly found in motorcycle accesories stores. Just slide it in after having the parking brake set on three click. The lock does not allow it to go further down to disengage.

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    Leaving the in gear only works on an manual clutch machine. The SE's or any of the models with the automatic clutch won't hold the vehicle if left in gear - they do have a bit more drag but will still roll quite easily. SpyderDeb's has been holding better/longer since I adjusted the parking brake cam - it's really sensitive in the adjustment.

    We were at First Thursday Bike Night at Dulano's Pizza in Minneapolis in Sep. Some jack##s scraped her front fender through the paint. A week later we're going on the interstate to a HOG meeting (see likes to torment the locals with her ). The traffic grinds to a halt which we braked for - she's looking in her mirror as some crotch-rocket babe comes REAL close. On Sunday as I was looking over her bike, there was obviously contact by the other front tire with her rear fender. These two incidents were by other scarecrow bikers (think "if I only had a brain....").

    I'll let the kids sit on mine if I can help them on/off.

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