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Non ethanol in the spyder?
Does anyone put non ethanol in the spyder? Is it better for the spyder ?
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Anytime I can get it (which isn't often). Good for the Spyder, better mileage to boot.
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Sure do. I have a station that sells non-ethanol premium about 4 miles from my house.
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Put "real" gasoline in all my vehicles whenever I can. Much better for all. Never could figger out why we are mandated to put food in our fuel tanks.
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Thanks for the responses. Looks like I should be putting non ethanol in my car as well
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YES
YES & YES.....
i ALWAYS use non-E gas.... many stations here in SoCar now carry it...
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The 10% ethanol blended fuels certainly won't harm your bike…
But whenever I've been able o find straight gas: I get about a nice bump in fuel economy!
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I always use Non- Ethanol fuel!
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Please note that the only mention of ethanol in the Owner's Manual, is to not go past a 10% mix
As far as Octane: that's a much bigger concern...
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Originally Posted by ArañaRider
Does anyone put non ethanol in the spyder? Is it better for the spyder ?
No and no.
It was designed to use E10 and that is no "worse" than pure gasoline.......unless maybe it will sit unused for a year or more.
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Originally Posted by ArañaRider
Thanks for the responses. Looks like I should be putting non ethanol in my car as well
Well you can believe whatever you want but the fact IS that will cost you a bit more overall because the gas with no ethanol in it costs enough more that you won't make up the difference with slightly better gas mileage.
And as far as your car goes, often the only non-ethanol product is high octane premium which costs a LOT more than regular.
If it makes you feel better then do it. But there really is no way to logically justify it.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Well you can believe whatever you want but the fact IS that will cost you a bit more overall because the gas with no ethanol in it costs enough more that you won't make up the difference with slightly better gas mileage.
And as far as your car goes, often the only non-ethanol product is high octane premium which costs a LOT more than regular.
If it makes you feel better then do it. But there really is no way to logically justify it.
Some places have E0 regular too. I use E0 when I can get it too.
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Originally Posted by kep-up
Put "real" gasoline in all my vehicles whenever I can. Much better for all. Never could figger out why we are mandated to put food in our fuel tanks.
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Non Ethanol around here is as scarce as Hen's teeth.
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This conversation has gotten stretched out to long. Every vehicle built now has been designed to run on a 10% ethanol blend. Non-oxygenated gas is for older vehicles and collector vehicles. I have ran my spyder on 10% ever since I drove it from the dealer I've even had to purchase 87 octane when nothing else was available have found very little difference in performance yes I have tried the non ethanol fuel and feel if there is any difference it is not worth the higher price.
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You will find people on both sides of every issue. And while it is true that modern vehicles are designed to tolerate the negative effects of ethanol fuel. Non-ethanol fuel is always better.
Whether or not it is better enough to justify the additional cost. That depends on the buyer. Though, to be completely honest. Ethanol fuel only APPEARS to be less expensive. We actually pay more for ethanol fuel than for straight gasoline. You just don't see it because of the taxpayer funded subsidies for ethanol fuel. Without these subsidies, ethanol fuel would be more expensive at the pump than non-ethanol fuel.
Plus, if you factor in all of the diesel fuel and oil based fertilizers used by farmers to grow and harvest the corn. And all of the energy needed to process the alcohol out of the corn. There is virtually no difference in the amount of pollution. And it ends up requiring more oil to produce a gallon of ethanol fuel than it does to create a gallon of non-ethanol gasoline.
But that is another subject altogether.
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If you ride your machine quite often, not a problem. If it sits for weeks at a time, use non-ethanol fuel, because it does absorb moisture from the ambient air, When we/I get back from a ride and know I will not be riding the machine for a time, I will top it off with non-ethanol fuel so hopefully I don't have any issues when I decide to start it up again. Just me being "anal" I guess. Mac
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Ethanol blend gasoline
10% is the rule--but like more rules--not followed. Some have significantly more than 10% ethanol. The bright spot of the ethanol E-85 is it's high octane rating.
The bad news is keep it away from any & all of your home lawn mowing vehicles--leaf blowers, anything without a real fuel pump. Most smaller devices use a rubber type diaphragm pulled back via piston generated vacuum & a spring to return it to it's orginal position. The ethanol will distort the shape of the rubber type diaphragm & you will need to rebuild the fuel pump section every year or two--Newer model equipment handles it better but ethanol still degrades the diaphragm & as I said earlier--several test have proved the 10% is just a general guideline--not always factual.
If you live in "Cornfield Midwest Land" finding non ethanol may be a challenge.
I don't have any info on long term use of ethanol in a Spyder but I'd avoid using it if possible. Lots of rubber type components from valve spring seals--etc.
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You have 10 years and over 100,000 Spyders mostly running around on E 10 with few if any fuel reported defects or problems. I have used straight gas and E10 and find no difference in performance and only a mile or two difference in range.There are several stations here that sell pure but I don't worry about it. Ride more worry less
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Originally Posted by Wildrice
Some have significantly more than 10% ethanol.
The bright spot of the ethanol E-85 is it's high octane rating.
Some what has more than 10% ??
I assume that you have proof of that claim.....(NOT).
The high octane rating of pure ethanol isn't much of a "bright spot" since is has significantly less energy content.
Some drag racers like it.
South America seems to like it.
Pretty much nobody else does.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
All the time here. There is NO ethanol in Alaska gasoline.
Your very lucky for that!!
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