Decoding the Chassis number

[Nito]

Hello everyone,

Hope someone can shed some light on what the Vin codes mean.

My wife and I have bought a Spyder each, taking delivery in a couple of days.

We have been given the chassis numbers for our insurers. The last 6 digits refer to the production unit number.

However, although our Spyders are sister bikes, the codes are different;

2BXNBDD12EV00xxxx
2BXNBDD17EV00xxxx

Anyone know what the 12 and the 17 denote? I was expecting the codes to be the same except the last 6 digits.

These are Base 2014 RT models SE6.

Thanks
Nito

[Bob Denman]

Could that be a difference in the Production Plants?

[billybovine]

The number in the 9th position, in your case 2 and 7, is the check digit. It tells you nothing about the vehicle itself. It is used to verify if the vin number is valid or not.

[billybovine]

Could that be a difference in the Production Plants?

As far as I know, all Spyder are assembled in Valcourt.

[Nito]

Billy,

Many thanks for that, so I guess it's a random number generated so people can't fraudulently copy/clone/tamper guess a chassis number sequentially as they wouldn't know what the check number is or something? Or not, either way I have no idea what it is but glad it's not related to the vehicle as these should be sister bikes and it had me slightly concerned for a moment.

Thanks again
Nito

[OJ UK]

Hi Nito! I see you're just down the road to me....

[oldguyinTX]

Could that be a difference in the Production Plants?

One was built in the "Q" factory.

[Bob Denman]

Would Kirk have Approved.jpg Glad you caught that one!

[Nito]

Hi Oj,

Hopefully we'll be collecting ours from GS Jettech on Friday or Saturday. Were you at Hastings? I introduced myself to Den and one of the others there on the day.

No doubt we'll bump into you somewhere soon enough!

cheers
Nito

[Chupaca]

2BX = World manufactuer ID
NBDD12EV = Vehicle discription
E = The year
00XXXX = The production number

The second item break down I can't find...

[billybovine]

Position 1 Region of the earth it was made.
Position 2 In conjunction with position 1 identifies the country it was made.
Position 3 Is a vehicle type identifier. Each manufacturer has their own codes.
Position 4,5,6,7,8 model type, engine size, etc. Each manufacturer has their own codes.
Position 9 Checksum number. Used to validate the vin number.
Position 10, Identifies the model year.
Position 11,12,13,14,15,16,17, is the unique identifier which contains the production number and may contain added info but each manufacturer has their own system.

[oldguyinTX]

Would Kirk have Approved.jpg Glad you caught that one!

The lady "Q" appealed to me more. She took him to task

[nwrider]

I just looked up the VIN number listed in an ad for a 2013 ST-S SE5. However, the VIN on NHTSA's site came up as an RS TS 991 SE5. Does the Spyder VIN identify specific models so I can determine if it is an RS or an ST? The fourth digit of the VIN is "N"

[stevencovert]

I just looked up the VIN number listed in an ad for a 2013 ST-S SE5. However, the VIN on NHTSA's site came up as an RS TS 991 SE5. Does the Spyder VIN identify specific models so I can determine if it is an RS or an ST? The fourth digit of the VIN is "N"

I started with a 2013 ST-S LTD, and the VIN came back as an RS apparently. My insurance card from GEICO said "RS"

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Billy,

Many thanks for that, so I guess it's a random number generated so people can't fraudulently copy/clone/tamper guess a chassis number sequentially as they wouldn't know what the check number is or something? Or not, either way I have no idea what it is but glad it's not related to the vehicle as these should be sister bikes and it had me slightly concerned for a moment.

Thanks again
Nito

No, it's not random, but the rest of your comment is right on. The check number is calculated by some secret formula, you know, kind of like the Colonel's secret 11 herbs and spices! What that formula is, and if all companies use the same formula or not, I have no idea. That formula calculation is why you can't get by changing one digit of a credit card number and have it work. The check sum number concept is used in all sorts of computer codes to validate authenticity.

[billybovine]

I just looked up the VIN number listed in an ad for a 2013 ST-S SE5. However, the VIN on NHTSA's site came up as an RS TS 991 SE5. Does the Spyder VIN identify specific models so I can determine if it is an RS or an ST? The fourth digit of the VIN is "N"

Here is the list of ST model codes and there description for 2013. It will be in the VIN.

B7DB Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). Europe
B7DC Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). North America
B7DD Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). Australia
B7DE Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). California
B7DF Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Black. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). North America
B7DG Roadster Spyder ST (STD), SM5, Black. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). California
C1DB Roadster Spyder ST-S, SM5, Yellow. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). North America
C1DC Roadster Spyder ST-S, SM5, Yellow. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). California
C1DD Roadster Spyder ST-S, SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). North America
C1DG Roadster Spyder ST-S, SM5, Magnesium. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SM5). California
D4DA Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, Black. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). North America
D4DB Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, Black. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). Europe
D4DC Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, White. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). North America
D4DD Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, White. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). Europe
D4DF Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, White. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). Australia
D4DG Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, White. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). California
D4DH Roadster Spyder ST-Limited (LTD), SE5, Black. Engine, Rotax 991 ETC (SE5). California

[Chupaca]

<img src="http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=157292&stc=1" attachmentid="157292" alt="" id="vbattach_157292" class="previewthumb">

This gives you the way but not the codes to know what your looking at....

[Hey Yu]

No, it's not random, but the rest of your comment is right on. The check number is calculated by some secret formula, you know, kind of like the Colonel's secret 11 herbs and spices! What that formula is, and if all companies use the same formula or not, I have no idea. That formula calculation is why you can't get by changing one digit of a credit card number and have it work. The check sum number concept is used in all sorts of computer codes to validate authenticity.

There are many different methods for calculating a check digit, and the VIN uses one of them. Here is an interesting, well it was for me, about this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_digit

[youngers]

The lady "Q" appealed to me more. She took him to task

strange though , almost human like