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Originally Posted by Peteoz
hmmmmmmm. Maybe I can fit a centrestand to the F3-L, Ann......that’d work
Pete
Pete,
put the centerstand down before I looked. Right there! Too easy! Joe
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Try a product called Ride On, it's a tire sealant you put in before you go, self seals if you get a nail or other hazard.
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Originally Posted by DGoebel
I filled all three tires with the Ameriseal tire sealant that Lamonster sells, but also purchased his Air Pack, along with a kit mentioned above. Covered all my bases along with an AMA membership with towing plan.
My prescription as well, said nstalled on the front, rear and 622 tires, plus the battery powered Compressor. If you are going to do all those tires you will need to purchase two bottles of Amerseal.
During the recent Maggie Valley rally, I used the pump to inflate the air bags on two bykes, they did not even know were there. That is a great tool, just charge it up once in a while.
Joe
Permit me to add a short note. I too also dispose tire sealants until Amerseal. Even my tire guys had no problem changing a tire with it in there, it is water soluble and really just wipes off.
Last edited by Buckeye Bleau; 10-16-2017 at 06:43 AM.
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Originally Posted by Peteoz
Thanks Idaspud, but nooooooo . I have a great relationship with my tyre fitters that would disappear quickly once they had to work on rims full of Ride On ( as much as I’d like to have an “auto” plugger )....I’ll stick to my Lamonster Balancers and credit card (with a plug kit in the frunk just in case )
Pete
Ride on is not like the fix a flat that tire changers hate. Ride on leaves a narrow band of sealant around the inside center of the tire, nothing is on the rim, no mess for the tire changers. Had several changes with ride on and have never had any complaints or extra charges.
Used fix a flat once and the tire guy wanted to shoot me.
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Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01
As soon as Joe got off his bike the screw in the tire was quite obvious.
Either Joe is reading the directions (men don't read directions) or he is making a homeless/help poster from a piece of cardboard in the picture.
Jack
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I would suggest that after plugging the flat the next stop be at a tire shop or dealer to have it fixed properly or replaced. Putting a patch on the inside of a
tubeless tire is recommended after you plug. This is a proper fix. Plugs do have a failure rate that I would not want to test.
Also if the nail/screw is within an inch/app. of the sidewall get the tire replaced. Tire shops will not fix a flat with this condition and recommend replacing
the tire. JFYI
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Fix a flat
We always carried a can of fix a flat atv riding. You can use it to air the tire, and a lot of times it would show you where the hole in your tire is. I can’t tell you how many tires I plugged for rookies out on the trail, sometimes miles from nowhere. We put 6 plugs in a friends tire, he rode the rest of the day with all 6 intact at the end of the day.
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Originally Posted by AeroPilot
....down the road to Page Utah that night.
Page is in AZ, not UT. It is just several miles south of the state line.
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I usually carry a air pump, plug kit and a spray bottle full of soapy water. Done this for years thankfully only had to fix a flat one time on a ride. And another time the valve stem was loose. Just tightened it up added some air and off again. Also keep a stem tool in the tool bag just in case.
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Originally Posted by regor
We always carried a can of fix a flat atv riding. You can use it to air the tire, and a lot of times it would show you where the hole in your tire is. I can’t tell you how many tires I plugged for rookies out on the trail, sometimes miles from nowhere. We put 6 plugs in a friends tire, he rode the rest of the day with all 6 intact at the end of the day.
I've seen on other threads that knowledgeable people discourage use of fix a flat on high speed tires. I think it creates balance issues plus pretty much renders the tire useless for a permanent repair.
2014 RTL Platinum
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
Never had to but I also have an RS... lots of viewing area. But I have found most times what made the hole is in the hole and fairly easy to spot. If it's raining you'll see bubbles... but to make life easier carry a scissor jack.
Do you carry a scissor jack? I hadn't considered that, but not a bad idea. That, or one of those small floor jacks HF sells.
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I had a blowout going 80 mph on the fl tpk. It tracked straight, no problem.
Only problem was the $500 tow bill.
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Originally Posted by Peteoz
Thanks Jaybros.....I know and accept all that. I was just wondering if anyone had a good method of finding a leak. Looks like you don’t, eh
Pete
It's really difficult. Pull out the air compressor. Start airing up the tire and see where the air is coming out.
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Watch out using the small portable 12 volt compressors with your Spyder as they can draw more current (amps) than the power outlet of the Spyder or the Battery Tender cord was made to carry.
According to the manual for a 2014 RT "The 12-volt power outlet is not designed to supply current of more than 3 amperes." It is protected by a 5 amp fuse.
The fuse that comes installed in the Battery Tender lead is a rather small value, 3 amps or so as I remember.
I use the Battery Tender lead for my portable air compressor but I put a larger amperage fuse in the fuse holder, a 10 amp I think.
No fun to be out somewhere and need the air and it only runs a few seconds before the fuse blows!
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I used run flat tire on the Wing .I have plugged (none run flat ) tires ,but when i get home i replace the plug with a plug patch .
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Originally Posted by WA5VHU
Watch out using the small portable 12 volt compressors with your Spyder as they can draw more current (amps) than the power outlet of the Spyder or the Battery Tender cord was made to carry.
According to the manual for a 2014 RT "The 12-volt power outlet is not designed to supply current of more than 3 amperes." It is protected by a 5 amp fuse.
The fuse that comes installed in the Battery Tender lead is a rather small value, 3 amps or so as I remember.
I use the Battery Tender lead for my portable air compressor but I put a larger amperage fuse in the fuse holder, a 10 amp I think.
No fun to be out somewhere and need the air and it only runs a few seconds before the fuse blows!
You need to be very careful when replacing fuses of say, 3 amps, with a larger size, such as 10 amps! The fuse size is determined by the current carrying capacity of the components involved in the system.
If you replace a fuse with a larger one to allow using an air compressor on a circuit that it was not designed for, you run a high risk of overloading the wiring and melting the insulation on the wiring. That could lead to an expensive replacement of wiring harnesses, or even catching your Spyder on fire. The same rule applies to your car, truck or even your house.
To do this is quite literally playing with fire. Do you want to chance it? It would be best to install a dedicated wire for the compressor (or whatever) that is the correct size for the maximum amp draw rating required.
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If its a Big Leak - Just Listen or feel with your wrist being most sensitive to the
Area near where air is escaping. Listen to find the Leak. If there is a puddle nearby, and you are in a relatively flat area, release the parking brake and roll the bike slowly ahead by hand, while another watches the tire to spot the bubbles or likely offending nail or screw. We also had been hearing a "tic, tic, tic" as the tire rolled slowly through the gas station at the last stop....Look and Listen!
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Plug kit & mini compressor. I have used a liquid put into the air cavity of the tire only once. The liquid filled the hole, stopped the leak. But also screwed up the tire balance enough to cause a bad vibration. I’ve used sticky worm style plugs several times, with CO2 cartridges and compressor. The cartridges would fill narrow tires of yesteryear. Now, I use a mini compressor. Check the plug after 50/100 miles, any issue is apparent in short order.
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Originally Posted by BoilerAnimal
You need to be very careful when replacing fuses of say, 3 amps, with a larger size, such as 10 amps! The fuse size is determined by the current carrying capacity of the components involved in the system.
If you replace a fuse with a larger one to allow using an air compressor on a circuit that it was not designed for, you run a high risk of overloading the wiring and melting the insulation on the wiring.
From what I see in the wiring diagram for the 2014 RTS, and looking up capacities vs. wire size, you could safely use a 7.5 amp fuse in the F7 position (hot all the time). You could use a 10 amp fuse there also but that would be right up against the limits for the wire size and length. Wire gauge for the F7 position is 14 coming in and 18 going to the power outlet. For the F6 position it's 18 gauge both in and out so you definitely would not want to use a 10 amp fuse there. 7.5 would be OK.
Current capacity charts on the web vary. Some are not as restrictive as the above numbers.
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Originally Posted by WA5VHU
Watch out using the small portable 12 volt compressors with your Spyder as they can draw more current (amps) than the power outlet of the Spyder or the Battery Tender cord was made to carry.
According to the manual for a 2014 RT "The 12-volt power outlet is not designed to supply current of more than 3 amperes." It is protected by a 5 amp fuse.
The fuse that comes installed in the Battery Tender lead is a rather small value, 3 amps or so as I remember.
I use the Battery Tender lead for my portable air compressor but I put a larger amperage fuse in the fuse holder, a 10 amp I think.
No fun to be out somewhere and need the air and it only runs a few seconds before the fuse blows!
Your information is correct and your point is well taken, but apparently not that easy to comply with. Can someone recommend a good portable 12V compressor that runs on 3 amps? I've looked at a bunch on Amazon and most are 10A and a couple are 5A ... I couldn't find any that are 3A or less.
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Originally Posted by WA5VHU
Watch out using the small portable 12 volt compressors with your Spyder as they can draw more current (amps) than the power outlet of the Spyder or the Battery Tender cord was made to carry.
According to the manual for a 2014 RT "The 12-volt power outlet is not designed to supply current of more than 3 amperes." It is protected by a 5 amp fuse.
The fuse that comes installed in the Battery Tender lead is a rather small value, 3 amps or so as I remember.
I use the Battery Tender lead for my portable air compressor but I put a larger amperage fuse in the fuse holder, a 10 amp I think.
No fun to be out somewhere and need the air and it only runs a few seconds before the fuse blows!
My stop and go arrived today but now you’ve given me something to think about.
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Originally Posted by DGoebel
I filled all three tires with the Ameriseal tire sealant that Lamonster sells, but also purchased his Air Pack, along with a kit mentioned above. Covered all my bases along with an AMA membership with towing plan.
Also have the air pack & AMA specifically for the roadside that includes towing the trailer too. Thankfully have not had to test it.
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