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Eco.mode.....seriously???
What am I missing? Do you really want to constantly look down at your instrument cluster and take your eyes off the road to save a few $ in gas? I don't get it.
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yep..waste of time..I stopped looking at that 16k miles ago..
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Yeah...
but the EPA people are really happy to see it there...never was worth much from the start.
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Well
then why not do like the automotive industry does. estimate your MPG and call that ECO mode
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Believe it or not, their are some people on here who use it. I guess they can't figure out when they're supposed to shift so they need a guide to tell them.
IMO, it doesn't really save that much in fuel costs, but costs plenty in performance.
Pam
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I'm thinking this is more dangerous than helpful.
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Just more BRP electronic BS that they are trying to sell as a feature.
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If you need to look at your instrument cluster to tell you when to shift, maybe you need to drive your automatic 4 wheel cage. Then again, I may just be a little too used to riding. Do you mean that because you are in ECO mode you HAVE to look at the cluster? If that's the case, then pretend you are NOT in ECO mode and shift away? Riding a motorcycle/Spyder is not rocket science. Enjoy the ride more and don't worry so much.
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Never used it.. don't see the point. Would love to add Sport mode though.
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ECO Mode -- Shift Points
I ignore the shift points, so don't look. Where I do see benefit in gas mileage is when cruising along at constant speed for long distances -- my 2016 RT seems to sip gas running ECO mode like this.
So, I shift where I want and only use ECO mode once up to speed and cruising ..... Ann
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You don't have to shift when it tells you to. I run in Eco Mode almost all of the time and I don't ever look at the arrow.
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Originally Posted by Pampurrs
Believe it or not, their are some people on here who use it. I guess they can't figure out when they're supposed to shift so they need a guide to tell them.
IMO, it doesn't really save that much in fuel costs, but costs plenty in performance.
Pam
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Pam, I use it almost all of the time but I never look at the arrow. I have a manual transmission and I shift when I want to. I get better gas mileage in Eco mode then I do with it off and I really don't see any loss in performance. But what do I know.
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ECO Mode takes some of the omph out of the power curve. Bob Denman has a graph that shows it, more straight line. As Ann said you don't have to, and I would discourage anyone from taking their eyes off the road to watch for the upshift green arrow for their own safety. I use it sometimes now when my bride is riding but that's because I have to behave myself when we're two up. I get a litttle better gas mileage with it but any high speed interstate travel kills the savings.
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Cue the graph...
ECO Mode.jpg
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Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01
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Pam, I use it almost all of the time but I never look at the arrow. I have a manual transmission and I shift when I want to. I get better gas mileage in Eco mode then I do with it off and I really don't see any loss in performance. But what do I know.
Last year, when I made my 1,000 mile ride from Phoenix to Dallas, and the 1.000 mile ride back from Dallas to Phoenix, I used ECO mode on the ride back just to see if there would be a difference. My MPG was abysmal on both legs of the trip, with not one bit of improvement when I used ECO. I have also tried ECO on a tank of gas just riding around town, and saw no gain in MPG, but substantial loss in performance. Maybe it's because you have a manual transmission and I have the Semi-Auto.
Pam
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I think the ECO mode was a "feel good" item installed by the manufacturer. It's BRP's way of saying, "See, we doing our part to save the planet." Yeah right.
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Heads up display
Frankly with all the other tech on the Spyder and this conversation about watching the instruments, I am surprised that BRP does not utilize the heads up display.
i have had autos with information projected right onto the windshield, why not here?
yes, you need a special coating on the screen but I loved it when I had it, never took eyes off the road.
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i use the same shift points with or without eco mode. got 1 tank
that was about 2 mpg better. i dont use it now.
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Great tool for those who tend to ride that way...
I liked the green gear shift cues to get acclimated to the 1330 SE6 shift points. Do I use ECO mode? No. I think that our overall riding style as programmed thru the right wrist governs what mileage we get anyway. If we ride like old farts, me included, we tend to get better gas mileage but if we like to twist that grip, thats what we do, ECO or not.
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I have a novel idea. Make it fully automatic. No need to look for an arrow, no need to shift; in fact, no need to think. There ya go. Problem solved.
John F.
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Originally Posted by deer30084
I have a novel idea. Make it fully automatic. No need to look for an arrow, no need to shift; in fact, no need to think. There ya go. Problem solved.
That may be on the horizon.
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It works as good as your F3 Belt Tension - er
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Originally Posted by deer30084
I have a novel idea. Make it fully automatic. No need to look for an arrow, no need to shift; in fact, no need to think. There ya go. Problem solved.
I don't doubt that BRP seriously toyed with this idea...
If you think about it: the downshifting is already done by the bike. This is the easiest thing to accomplish: you only need to read the engine rpm, and tie that into the downshifting protocols.
Upshifitng would probably require some way to monitor the torque-load on the drivetrain. This would be necessary to provide for upshifting at the proper times.
(CVTs have been doing this for a VERY long time...)
They most likely felt that riders would want more "involvement" in the process; so it was shelved.
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