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    Default Break-in of 2016 rt 1330 ENGINE

    Hi Folks: I now have about 800 miles on the new engine. I have looked at the maine sched and the book details first oil change at 3,000 miles.

    What are your thoughts on this matter????

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    If it says 3,000 miles; who am I to argue with the folks who build the bike?
    I changed mine at 3,000 miles.
    I sort of "Babied" the engine for the first 600 miles, and then gradually started giving it a little bit more "Right-Wrist", as allowed by traffic conditions.
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    I have no quarrel with what both Bob and Mike say. I would offer though that the clutch cover, a.k.a. transmission, plug has a pretty good magnet on on it for catching the ferrous metal "excess" from the machining and assembly processes and the oil filter is there to trap the non-ferrous metal excess. In BRP's defense, if they believed with reasonable certainty that a 600 mile oil change was necessary they would have included it in the service schedule. YMMV.
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    Default Well....

    Follow the maintenance shcedule and you will have not problem. My only suggestions, #1 is ryde like you would normally (don't baby it) but don't hold any constant speeds for long periods of time. Keep changing your speeds and rpm's for 600 miles or so. #2 don't wait the 9,300 mile for the next oil change that they recommend. That is a bit to long imho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    If it says 3,000 miles; who am I to argue with the folks who build the bike?
    I changed mine at 3,000 miles.
    I sort of "Babied" the engine for the first 600 miles, and then gradually started giving it a little bit more "Right-Wrist", as allowed by traffic conditions.

    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    Follow the maintenance shcedule and you will have not problem. My only suggestions, #1 is ryde like you would normally (don't baby it) but don't hold any constant speeds for long periods of time. Keep changing your speeds and rpm's for 600 miles or so. #2 don't wait the 9,300 mile for the next oil change that they recommend. That is a bit to long imho...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    Follow the maintenance shcedule and you will have not problem. My only suggestions, #1 is ryde like you would normally (don't baby it) but don't hold any constant speeds for long periods of time. Keep changing your speeds and rpm's for 600 miles or so. #2 don't wait the 9,300 mile for the next oil change that they recommend. That is a bit to long imho...
    " I think it said 9,300 or every year/season"

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    Your right ... but still unless your season is under 4,000 miles you need to change your oil and not store your machine with old oil in it..jmo all oil tests seen here have the oils breaking down around that mark...

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    All good advice above.

    : First oil change recommended on the 1330 at 3000 miles. It will not hurt anything if you do it sooner. I followed the mfg. specs on mine.

    : I also took it easy the first 500 miles. Varied the speeds and did not over rev it the first 1000 miles or so. Then--drove it my "normal" way.

    : First oil change service (after break in) was done at 12,300 (9,300 miles later). That was about 3 months time the first year. Additional oil changes were done at 9,300 mile intervals. I put on a lot of miles, so the once a year thing has not been needed so far.

    Now have 21,000 so have a bit to go this season. Looks like it may be the once a year thing this year. Will do it when I put the to bed for the season.

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    I changed my oil the first time at 3,000 miles and have changed it every 9,300 miles since. I have 76,000 miles on my 2014 and it runs great. I don't understand why some of you think that the engineers that designed this engine don't know what they are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I changed my oil the first time at 3,000 miles and have changed it every 9,300 miles since. I have 76,000 miles on my 2014 and it runs great. I don't understand why some of you think that the engineers that designed this engine don't know what they are doing.
    You have to remember that BRP is not going to knowingly give out bad information: it'll cost them in warranty claims, and customer dissatisfaction.
    This having been said: if you want to perform the maintenance chores more often than they say to: it's your prerogative!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENspyderman View Post
    Hi Folks: I now have about 800 miles on the new engine. I have looked at the maine sched and the book details first oil change at 3,000 miles.

    What are your thoughts on this matter????

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    I just did my first oil change @5,111 Kms today, using a BRP oil change kit.
    Only a tiny amount of "powder" on the magnet, no fillings. 5 quarts of oil brought the level to 3/4 of the "3" range.

    Didn't use a drop of oil since new. I broke it in fairly gently, slowly increasing throttle and RPMs until the 1000 Km mark as recommended in the owner's manual. No engine issues at all!
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    My 2013 RT had 654 miles on it when I got it. I was going to be at Spyderfest when the 3000 mile service would be due, so on the advice of the local service tech I changed the oil at 1200 miles. The 3000 mile service will be done at something like 5500 miles. He said an early oil change followed by a late 3000 mile service was preferable to delaying the first oil change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I changed my oil the first time at 3,000 miles and have changed it every 9,300 miles since. I have 76,000 miles on my 2014 and it runs great. I don't understand why some of you think that the engineers that designed this engine don't know what they are doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    My 2013 RT had 654 miles on it when I got it. I was going to be at Spyderfest when the 3000 mile service would be due, so on the advice of the local service tech I changed the oil at 1200 miles. The 3000 mile service will be done at something like 5500 miles. He said an early oil change followed by a late 3000 mile service was preferable to delaying the first oil change.
    I'm confused, Mac. On the 13 the first maintenance is at 600 miles. Did you mean on your 2014?
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    I don't understand why some of you think that the engineers that designed this engine don't know what they are doing.[/QUOTE]

    I agree the ENGINE is masterfully engineered, now if the "rest of it" were engineered the same way.

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    Default My dealer reciommended......

    My Dealer recommended to change the oil on a new 2015 RT-Limited between 600 and 1000 miles. Said it was his feelling that it is always good to get any metal shavings etc., out of the engine asap, so that is why he recommended the first change at that interval. After that go the regular intervals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I'm confused, Mac. On the 13 the first maintenance is at 600 miles. Did you mean on your 2014?
    Yep! My brain is like the Spyder clutch. It slips a lot before take off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elembytes View Post
    My Dealer recommended to change the oil on a new 2015 RT-Limited between 600 and 1000 miles. Said it was his feelling that it is always good to get any metal shavings etc., out of the engine asap,
    IMO that is unjustified paranoia. I'll bet those engines are cleaner than your dinner plate when they're assembled. When I changed the oil at 1200 miles I don't recall seeing anything at all on the magnetic plugs.

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    [QUOTE=Elembytes;1137932]My Dealer recommended to change the oil on a new 2015 RT-Limited between 600 and 1000 miles. Said it was his feelling that it is always good to get any metal shavings etc., out of the engine asap, so that is why he recommended the first change at that interval. After that go the regular intervals.[/QUOTE dealer just wants your money! Probably wants $400 for oil change as well. Ryde more spend less!
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    The dealer is hanging onto "old notions", and the maintenance schedule of the 998s...
    He needs to be able to "change gears"; when changing bikes!
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    Follow schedule and you will have not problem. My only suggestions, #1 is ryde like you would normally (don't baby it) but don't hold any constant speeds for long periods of time. Keep changing your speeds and rpm's for 600 miles or so. #2 don't wait the 9,300 mile for the next oil change that they recommend. That is a bit to long imho...[/QUOTE]


    Funny guy first sentance follow the book they know best. Last sentance do not listen to them 9,300 too long.Second sentance Factory does not recomend drive as normal, they suggest not giving full throttle at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    My 2014 RT had 654 miles on it when I got it. I was going to be at Spyderfest when the 3000 mile service would be due, so on the advice of the local service tech I changed the oil at 1200 miles. The 3000 mile service will be done at something like 5500 miles. He said an early oil change followed by a late 3000 mile service was preferable to delaying the first oil change.
    Finally got it done at 5928. See here for more http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...=1#post1146449

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