Very Short Distance Towing over weight limit. Good or bad? You vote.
I have an aluminum trailer that weighs 710 LB's empty. I'll be using it to haul my 2014 RT with our motor home. I'm a new motor home owner and not experienced at backing up the beast (35 ft) much less with a trailer attached.
Most campsites are laid out as "back in" configurations. Since I have a hitch on the RT and I could easily swap out the 1 7/8 " ball for a 2 ". What I'd like to do when arriving at a campground is unload the Spyder then use it to park the trailer in the camping slot. We are probably talking 100' or so at each campground maybe 10 - 14 times a year.
That's 310 lb's over the specified capacity of the Spyder at low speed for a very short period of time. Is it worth the risk or am I bat sh*t crazy? You tell me. I can take it. :-)
I would think you'd have no problem except if it's on wet or sandy conditions the Spyder might just want to spin the rear tire. I know I tried to back mine up a slight incline in gravel and it just dug a hole.
We tow our Spyder with our motorhome all over the U. S. and we have had very little problem getting a pull-thru camp site. That way you don't have the headache of backing.
I would think you'd have no problem except if it's on wet or sandy conditions the Spyder might just want to spin the rear tire. I know I tried to back mine up a slight incline in gravel and it just dug a hole.
But the redneck comes thru & has to ask have you tried to move trailer by hand? t doesn't sound much bigger than a. Mower single axle tilt trailer.... & i find those to be very squirmy & easier to just tilt & pull /push into place personally. I do have country boy size in my favor, but some trailers make it quite ez
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IMHO moving a 750lb. trailer is much easier if you don't hitch it to ANYTHING.........just pick up the coupler and push or pull to where-ever.....................A few years ago I moved my Snow-mobile trailer 450lbs with two 650 + lbs machines on it in my gravel driveway.......and I was 65 at the time.........Mike
Last edited by BLUEKNIGHT911; 04-11-2016 at 07:45 PM.
Now my curiosity is peaked....have you wrangled a trailer with your spyder. Cause even if you have with the 622 or similar this is a different creature. Although the bigger the easier. I would try the manhandling first and then move on to the spyder. Not worried about the total weight on flat ground but the tongue weight may not be healthy. Hate to over think this but if the trailer has a tongue wheel just push it.....
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Actually, I don't tow a trailer with my Spyder, so I'm not qualified to comment there, but I do have a lot of experience with motorhomes. From that perspective, here are a couple of points with respect to your situation... First, most campgrounds have storage lots where you would be welcome to drop the trailer, usually at no cost, to get it out of the way. In fact, many campgrounds have rules that prohibit you from storing a trailer or a car dolly on your site. In any event, dropping the trailer in a storage lot (or some out of the way place) at the campground will be much easier than trying to maneuver it in a camp site. Get a tongue lock for the trailer, and you won't have to worry about someone stealing it while it's out of sight.
Secondly, you may not think so now, but you will quickly get the knack for backing the trailer with the motorhome - especially if you have a rear view camera. Unlike backing a towed car with 4 wheels down (which is nearly impossible), backing a trailer is really not that hard. If you will be traveling with someone else, it helps if you have them get out and be a "spotter" for you while backing ( especially at the camp site, whether or not you are backing with the trailer attached).
Backing up a motorhome ( mine is a class A, 34 ft) is not easy all by itself. Add a very short wheelbase trailer and you will be all over the place. I can back up a 20 ft snowmobile trailer fine but even that responds quickly to steering wheel moves.
Your best option is a pull thru site or remove the trailer before backing. Just my .02$ worth.
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SpyderPop's: LED bumpskid
SmoothSpyder: dualmode back rest
T r * * LED:foam grip covers, Tricrings, FenderZ,
brake light strips, wide vue mirrors
Rivico SOMA modulation brake leds
sawblade mowhalk fender accents
minispyder dash toy
Lid lox
KradelLock
Pakitrack
GENSSI ELITE LED H4 headlights
FLO (Frunk Lid Organizer)
BRP fog lights, trailer hitch
SENA 20S EVO
The unknown here: How the bike will be able to handle the "stopping & starting" part of the deal.
Nice and easy, and you'll be fine!
If you get that trailer moving too quickly: it WILL drag you around...
If the trailer pushes easily I wouldn't worry about it. If you're pushing it uphill and it takes a lot of throttle, it may be hard on your transmission.
You mentioned getting a 2" ball. You can buy a "ConvertABall" and change from 1 7/8" to 2" instantly. Look on Amazon.
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id do it. IMO unhooking the trailer from the motorhome before trying to back it in will save your nerves. Backing in a motorhome that size is easy, with a trailer attached is another story. I have driven the same size motorhome and parked it in places with an inch or two to spare on either side. That is easier than backing up a regular 20' boat trailer with a pick-up
Happy trails, towing your spyder behind you is going to make for an awesome camping trip. my brother and i were talking about going in on a trailer but havent dont it yet, we wanted one that could take both our spyders and it gets pretty pricy
The trailer does have a tongue wheel and can be manhandled on smooth pavement. Most of the time that will work. Likewise when I can get a pull through I'll take it. And I'm really happy to hear that many campgrounds have storage areas. That will be the ideal solution.
Eventually I'll be more comfortable backing it in with the RV, but I'm not there yet. So I think that when I'm faced with a good distance or difficult back in situation I'm going to hitch it to the Spyder and do a lawnmower cruise to get it where I want it. :-)
I move our little Homesteader Aerodyne cargo trailer around the yard with either our RT or RS Spyders. The cargo trailer is just a bit too heavy to turn around by hand in the backyard grass but no problem for the Spyder. I'm guessing the tongue weight is at least 60 to 80 lbs. and the trailer weights more than 400 lbs. I wouldn't take it out on the roads with a Spyder though.