2013 and back KEY Question

[Cruzr Joe]

Anybody know how to erase the key memory in a Spyder RT so that you can program some keys in? (using the master key set)

(When trying to program more keys in, the computer will not accept them, you can only program a total of 4 keys in the system and apparently some keys were programmed in earlier and now are lost and the owner only has one key left.)

Cruzr Joe

[Bob Denman]

Don't you have to take the bike and all of the keys in, for the Master Key process? You should be able to just forget about the keys that don't get re-pregrammed...
(I think!)

[Cruzr Joe]

Don't you have to take the bike and all of the keys in, for the Master Key process? You should be able to just forget about the keys that don't get re-pregrammed...
(I think!)

owner has a master key and several cut BRP keys but the bike will only accept one (i believe that it has others in memory and we were trying to figure out how to "forget" the lost ones

Cruzr Joe

[billybovine]

Anybody know how to erase the key memory in a Spyder RT so that you can program some keys in? (using the master key set)

(When trying to program more keys in, the computer will not accept them, you can only program a total of 4 keys in the system and apparently some keys were programmed in earlier and now are lost and the owner only has one key left.)

Cruzr Joe

Don't work that way Joe. Every time you put the Spyder into key programming mode you must program 2 keys minimum or 4 key maximum. How many keys that were stored before is irrelevant. If the programming of new keys fails there are 2 possible outcomes. It will stay in programming mode, will start but engine will quit after 2 minutes or the DESS unit will revert back to previously programmed keys. If the programming of new keys is successful all old keys will be erased from the DESS. That's why if you wish to keep one or more of your old keys it must be programmed again as a new key.

[Gray Ghost]

Billybovine is correct.

[Bob Denman]

Instead of programming with the Master Key; why not just get them cloned?
It's for a 2013; right?

[Cruzr Joe]

here is what happens

when you go through the process the original key that you use with the master key gets replaced by the new key that you have programmed, it then drops you out of the programming process and will not allow a second key to be programmed. The new key is now operable but the original key no longer works, hence he still only has one good key.


Cruzr Joe

[billybovine]

here is what happens

when you go through the process the original key that you use with the master key gets replaced by the new key that you have programmed, it then drops you out of the programming process and will not allow a second key to be programmed. The new key is now operable but the original key no longer works, hence he still only has one good key.


Cruzr Joe

The instructions and the preamble explanation in the service manual says that can't happen. If you only insert one new key to program, the program will fail and revert back to the previous keys programmed.

You need to get the person having the problem to post exactly what he did, when and what the display says, when. Or even better a detailed video. Working from the summary of the results and/or assumptions of what is happening does not seem to be working.

[Cruzr Joe]

The instructions and the preamble explanation in the service manual says that can't happen. If you only insert one new key to program, the program will fail and revert back to the previous keys programmed.

You need to get the person having the problem to post exactly what he did, when and what the display says, when. Or even better a detailed video. Working from the summary of the results and/or assumptions of what is happening does not seem to be working.

That is what i observed while i was trying to program the keys for him after he had no luck with it, and that is what happens irregardless of what the manual says.

Cruzr Joe

[CherryBomb]

Yup. I've seen this phenomenon myself. Up close and personal. Wish I had a solution.

[Spyderlover78]

here is what happens

when you go through the process the original key that you use with the master key gets replaced by the new key that you have programmed, it then drops you out of the programming process and will not allow a second key to be programmed. The new key is now operable but the original key no longer works, hence he still only has one good key.


Cruzr Joe

We had the same issue......only let's us program one key.

[Bob Denman]

Yup. I've seen this phenomenon myself. Up close and personal. Wish I had a solution.

Take the working key, and an acceptably chipped un-coded key; to a shop that has cloning capabilities...
Easy-Peasy!