ABANDONED BY BRP !!!

[CapNCrunch]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

[Ex-Rocket]

I hate to hear that. I guess I'm lucky where I live as I have 3 dealerships within 30 miles from me. But I only have one dealership that I trust.

[Tazzel]

I am not sure that BRP would do that unless they had an issue with the Spyder Dealers themselves. Why would they? My guess is that the Spyders are not selling well in your area and the Dealerships have determined that it is not worth having Spyders in their inventory and will no-longer carry them.

[Johnny_Swindle]

Very strange....

I can only imagine few scenarios that this would happen:

- Failure to live up to contractual agreements with BRP
- Owner complaints to BRP regarding service

I am sorry that this is happening to you but there has to be more to the story..

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

[Bob Denman]

I am not sure that BRP would do that unless they had an issue with the Spyder Dealers themselves. Why would they? My guess is that the Spyders are not selling well in your area and the Dealerships have determined that it is not worth having Spyders in their inventory and will no-longer carry them.

A lot of the "blame" may have to fall upon the dealers that don't actively try to sell the product.

[Chupaca]

Would be interesting to find out a bit more on this. You could visit your "used to be " dealer and find out for yourself.

[Cruzr Joe]

My suggestion is that before you throw stones you get the entire story. BRP did not just pick these up to abandon your area, that does not make good business sense.

Find out and let us know.

Cruzr Joe

[Tango]

Unpaid bills, little to no sales. Who knows what happened behind the scenes. Tom

[cyclekid58]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

If it helps any there is one in Coeurd'Alene Idaho, Specialty Recreation, or Allsport in the Spokane Valley just accross the WA border.

[blackbeauty]

I do a lot of touring during the spring and summer. Spyder service is frequently not readily available should I have a serious issue. However, two years ago I had a flat front tire. Couldn't be patched as it was a tear into the sidewall. I was in Libbey, Montana. Local tire dealer no help with replacement. Called dealer in Kalispell and they overnighted a replacement tire. Les Swab changed the tire and I was in my way. Sorry to hear the Kalispell dealer is no more. They gave me great service..if they are gone, closest might be Spokane or Gillette.
Might have to think more about routes in the future.

[justcalldon]

My local dealer gave up on Spyders too I now have to drive several hours to get service. Fortunately I haven't had any problems.


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[PrairieSpyder]

I got good service at the Great Falls dealer on my way home from Alaska last year.

Have you you called the dealers to see what they say? I also think there's more to the story.

[Bob Denman]

Hi Patti!
What do you want to bet that they will blame BRP??

[Rogue Hawk]

I am in Illinois and there are only two dealerships within a reasonable range.

[Bob Denman]

Could you define the term, "reasonable"?

[ARtraveler]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

When the above happens, there are usually dire circumstances. Failure to pay franchise fees, exceptionally poor service, and customer complaints are usually the drivers. However, it could be as simple of the dealers throwing in the towel and telling BRP to come and pick up their stuff. We are getting the information second hand and this paragraph is speculation at best. We should hear from someone who has actually talked with the dealers and got their side.

Similar here. Used to be three locations at two separate dealers. One has discontinued the line. The other sells at one location and services at the other. I am an eight year customer and it goes to twelve if you count the Kawasaki's I purchased before the .

I am hoping the current dealer does not bail from the program, because if they do, I and the rest of the owners will be in the same place. One of the reasons I passed on a new this year was because of the above.

[Cruzr Joe]

Could you define the term, "reasonable"?

This is controlled by how much gas money you have.

Cruzr Joe

[youngers]

a big MMMMMMMM , heard on the radio , bombardiea , has or is , about too lay off 20,ooo I will look into this article again !

[ARtraveler]

a big MMMMMMMM , heard on the radio , bombardiea , has or is , about too lay off 20,ooo I will look into this article again !

An "official" confirmation would be good here. Thanks in advance.

[billybovine]

Bombardier is going to layoff 7,500 folks worldwide. So what does that have to do with BRP? Not the same company. Bombardier sold off BRP in 2003.

a big MMMMMMMM , heard on the radio , bombardiea , has or is , about too lay off 20,ooo I will look into this article again !

[youngers]

o.kay found the story , it is the lear jet side of bombardier , quite a few in Wichita and world wide . machinist , .... but still this pulling spyders , out of the 2 dealers , are these 2 dealers owned buy same owner ? { it is hard too believe can-am would fold up like that , the spyder bike itself is too cool just in its self ! } shoot folks do we need too pull our money together and start a dealer ship ?

[billybovine]

o.kay found the story , it is the lear jet side of bombardier , quite a few in Wichita and world wide . machinist , .... but still this pulling spyders , out of the 2 dealers , are these 2 dealers owned buy same owner ? { it is hard too believe can-am would fold up like that , the spyder bike itself is too cool just in its self ! } shoot folks do we need too pull our money together and start a dealer ship ?

The learjet story. Well that's old news. What was the date on the article you read.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:

Here are a couple of comments I shared last year in this post: www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?86361-Spyder-changes-coming! This might be related to what you are seeing now in Montana.

I had a couple of interesting conversations this past week, one with a Can Am rep and the other with a Boise dealer sales mgr. I ran into the East Idaho, Wyoming, Montana parts and accessories factory rep in Idaho Falls last Tuesday at breakfast at the hotel I was staying at. We talked about several things including Can Am marketing department. He said they sometimes don't have a clue about market realities. The flop of an unveiling at Sturgis showed that.

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He said BRP is actively working to bring more dealers on board. A challenge is to keep the marketing folks from forcing dealers to buy and stock more machines than they can reasonably sell. BRP is well aware of customer service issues, but since most dealers are multi-line, multi-brand, sellers Spyder sales and service on its own often doesn't have the clout to force improvements. To us Spyders are all important. To some dealers, like in East Idaho, Spyders are secondary to snowmobiles and/or water craft.

...............

Sales are on the upswing as evidenced by the shrinking inventory of 2015s around the country. The local sales mgr said they sold more Spyders this year than ever and their inventory is pretty much dried up. He also commented the RSS is a 'has been' as far as sales go. They have one orange one that well may end up going to auction. No one seems to want it, even at $14,399. The 2015 RTS Special Edition at the other local dealer I was hoping to make a deal on was sold this past week!

[Fat Baxter]

One of the reasons I moved to a Spyder in 2014 was the shutdown of the only BMW bike dealer in Alabama. I initially wasn't *too* concerned about service for my then-15 year old RT, as I was using an independent BMW-trained mechanic, but that year he too went under. Ooops.

Oddly enough, I was very seriously looking at Urals rigs, as they are throwbacks to a simpler era when the owner could do a good deal of wrenching themselves -- Urals are stupid-simple, like BMWs use to be in the '70s and '80s. BMW forgot all that.

Instead I got a high-tech toy that requires PhD-level of mechanic skills.......

As for Montana, I spent 6 1/2 glorious years there courtesy of Uncle Sam. It's a very thinly populated state. Maybe not enough folks up there to justify a Spyder dealership. After you sell few dozen or so, the market may be saturated.

[oldgoat]

a big MMMMMMMM , heard on the radio , bombardiea , has or is , about too lay off 20,ooo I will look into this article again !

You do that. Maybe then you will get your numbers correct.

It is mainly in the train division that the layoffs will happen.

They are planning to hire over 3000 in the aeronautic division

BRP is a separate company to Bombardier.