Go Pro Vs Dash Cam?

[2RTsGV]

From time to time I see posts where people ask for information on the best cameras to attach to the bike for their trips and this left me wondering if anyone has used or uses one of those dash cams that people use in their cars. If so, please share your thoughts on them ... likes / dislikes.

[artig]

I use a dash cam in the car, but not on the Spyder, since it's not waterproof. I've also tried a GoPro-type camera, but gave up keeping it waterproof while being powered by the Spyder. However, I have seriously considered permanently installing an Innovv K1 motorcycle camera, with a camera pointing forwards and another pointing back. I have heard good reports from motorcyclists who have installed one. http://www.innovv.com/the-k1-c3r6

[Peter Aawen]

If you plan on using it for 'safety' or 'witness' purposes, a Go-Pro will not be accepted by many if any courts or jurisdictions....

Most Safety-Cams or Dash-Cams have software &/or recording protocols that either resist or at least record any attempts at changing the video recording, so there are some courts/jurisdictions that will accept them as a valid recording of the event in the case of an accident or other dispute. When it comes to that sort of stuff, Go-Pro recordings just don't fit the bill & are really only for making pretty YouTube vids.

[Madincalif]

I use a dash cam in the car, but not on the Spyder, since it's not waterproof. I've also tried a GoPro-type camera, but gave up keeping it waterproof while being powered by the Spyder. However, I have seriously considered permanently installing an Innovv K1 motorcycle camera, with a camera pointing forwards and another pointing back. I have heard good reports from motorcyclists who have installed one. http://www.innovv.com/the-k1-c3r6

I've installed a K1 from INNOVV and it's great. Very good quality pictures both front and back.

[pitzerwm]

I use a Cobra that Costco sells, for $100, it has a time stamp which is needed for use in a serious court situation and it shows your speed, and GPS coordinates. Good quality. From my experience, all a video needs is the time stamp to be used in court.

[KX5062]

If you plan on using it for 'safety' or 'witness' purposes, a Go-Pro will not be accepted by many if any courts or jurisdictions....

Most Safety-Cams or Dash-Cams have software &/or recording protocols that either resist or at least record any attempts at changing the video recording, so there are some courts/jurisdictions that will accept them as a valid recording of the event in the case of an accident or other dispute. When it comes to that sort of stuff, Go-Pro recordings just don't fit the bill & are really only for making pretty YouTube vids.

Maybe in OZ, but not so in the US. While what your wrote is technically correct, videos would be and are admissible in court. It happens all of the time in this country. Since you are a civilian, the requirements are less stringent than if you were the government submitting evidence in a criminal case. Rule of evidence in civil cases are far different than in criminal cases. As is the requirements for evidence submission and sourcing.

There is a however in that scenario. The "however" is if the other side in the court case challenges the veracity of the video, then you would have to provide a court approved expert to authenticate the video as true and correct. Of course, the other side would have to supply their own expert to challenge the accuracy of the video. In most civil courts that is done by the insurance companies who will spend insane amounts of money to fight the battle.

[2RTsGV]

Thanks for the responses, my intent wasn't for legal / court purposes, just for recording trips from time to time (when I am in a scenic area) - I like the Innov setup and will research those.

[artig]

I've installed a K1 from INNOVV and it's great. Very good quality pictures both front and back.

Sounds good. Where have you located the cameras, the GPS, and the control unit? Any advice would be appreciated if/when I get around to installing one.

[ceyer69]

Thanks for the responses, my intent wasn't for legal / court purposes, just for recording trips from time to time (when I am in a scenic area) - I like the Innov setup and will research those.

Here is where I installed the main camera system on my 2015 RT.

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[Madincalif]

Sounds good. Where have you located the cameras, the GPS, and the control unit? Any advice would be appreciated if/when I get around to installing one.

The front camera I mounted right behind the windshield using JT's Rt dash mount kit, the rear camera is on the right side of the rear license plate, the gps is mounted under the frunk lid by the plastic piece that covers the coolant tank and the control unit is sitting in the frunk, and I put it all on an independent switch so I can turn it on and off when I wantIMG_20161008_163421.jpg

[KX5062]

Thanks for the responses, my intent wasn't for legal / court purposes, just for recording trips from time to time (when I am in a scenic area) - I like the Innov setup and will research those.

I have the Innov and a Sena 10C. Both have strengths and weaknesses.

The Sena is a helmet mount, so your best camera views are to your left and straight ahead. Anything on the right side is awkward at best. The Sena has a good mount system IF you can use the clamp on mount. If your helmet is not able to use the clamp on system, then you have to use their stick-on mount, which is not nearly as good or useful.

The Innov has virtually no customer support and no software. You have to use the web for everything. It is not "plug n' play". The model I have is not weather resistant and is awkward if not impossible to active on the fly. Basically, with mine, you have to turn it on and leave it on until stopped.

There's more, but you get the idea.

[Tazzel]

If you plan on using it for 'safety' or 'witness' purposes, a Go-Pro will not be accepted by many if any courts or jurisdictions....

Most Safety-Cams or Dash-Cams have software &/or recording protocols that either resist or at least record any attempts at changing the video recording, so there are some courts/jurisdictions that will accept them as a valid recording of the event in the case of an accident or other dispute. When it comes to that sort of stuff, Go-Pro recordings just don't fit the bill & are really only for making pretty YouTube vids.

I disagree with this statement. All court records submitted for trail purpose, paper records, photos and video can be altered. It is up to the attorneys to prove if it has been tampered with.

I use the Ion video recording camera . For 35.00 bucks I don’t have to worry about breaking it, dropping it or getting it stolen. It mounts to the F3 handle bars or the helmet.

https://www.amazon.com/Ion-1011L-Lit...Z48PJRDGBNV5KC