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    Quote Originally Posted by Sccar View Post
    Which ones do u need for the F3S. Gold plug has 3 listed for the F3S; MP-01, MP-02 & MP-18
    If I'm reading things correctly... you need the 01, the 02, and the 18.
    BUT! Check that with someone who knows for sure...
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    Yeh, Bob, JC's comment can be scary. I'll find out in the not too distant future with the Dimple crankcase plug I installed at my last oil change. Oh well!

    I did notice on my OEM crankcase plug that the Torx splines are only about 4.24 mm deep while the bored hole is a shade over 8 mm deep. If the splines were deeper it might prevent some rounding. Mo betta still, be certain the Torx bit is straignt and fully seated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderryder53 View Post
    that was me, my dimple plug broke in half right at the magnet the very first time I put it in and it WAS NOT over torqued.
    I think some may be defective. VERY EXPENSIVE OIL CHANGE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderryder53 View Post
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    photo of dimple plug that broke off at magnet
    .Thanks, but could you turn them so we can see the flat surface ( and take new Pics ) I think the size of the Magnet they used weakened the PLUG to much ....... I think the GOLD plug magnet is smaller ......Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    It baffles me, why folks will spend $20,000 or so on a motorcycle, and then balk at the cost of an aftermarket accessory for it...
    What baffles me is why would a company who has to know about the plug problems keep charging as much as 20,000. _32,000 and not address the iissue and solve the problem that would probably not cost them a dollar more to solve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    ...........JC, I have the GOLD brand and I've seen pics of the Magnet in the Dimple brand ...... It looks like the Dimple has a larger magnet and I think this is the problem .......the larger magnet causes them to drill a larger hole in the plug , thus making the walls thinner, thus the failure...................jmho.......Mike

    This may very well be true. I have not seen a snapped off gold plug. What you say about a smaller magnet would make sense as it leaves more metal at the weakest point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    .Thanks, but could you turn them so we can see the flat surface ( and take new Pics ) I think the size of the Magnet they used weakened the PLUG to much ....... I think the GOLD plug magnet is smaller ......Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderryder53 View Post
    IMHO, the size magnet they used caused the threaded section to become so thin, it could not support even a small amount of TORQUE. It would be interesting to compare a GOLD PLUG .... it wouldn't have to be broken, just a PIC of the flat side ....... to compare the wall thickness ...................Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefybudds View Post
    That is the exact same spot my dimple plug snapped. I purchased the gold plugs and purchased another set of dimple plugs to compare the 2. The gold plugs are a better quality in my opinion. I felt confident enough with them that I installed then in my Spyder. I sold my dimple plug.
    The broken half with the magnet of my dimple is still in my clutch cover that I had to have replaced at a cost of $1100.
    The owner of dimple "Richard" told me there was no way his plug would snap under correct torque but I thing he is wrong.
    Since you have BOTH close at hand ....is the magnet in the GOLD PLUG smaller then the DIMPLE ? ? ? ......Thanks ......Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Since you have BOTH close at hand ....is the magnet in the GOLD PLUG smaller then the DIMPLE ? ? ? ......Thanks ......Mike
    The magnet on the gold plug is smaller. The dimple plug that is breaking is the clutch cover plug. Not the one with the 2 o-rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefybudds View Post
    The magnet on the gold plug is smaller. The dimple plug that is breaking is the clutch cover plug. Not the one with the 2 o-rings.
    Thanks for looking and reporting back .......Doesn't matter which plug !!! ..... If the GOLD plug has a smaller Magnet , then the thread walls are thicker and less likely to break !!!!! ............... .... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    On your F3, one plug is torx, the other is hex. What sort of tool were you using? You need a torx drive socket and ratchet, not a key. If the head striped out, the wrong tool was used or not fully inserted.

    I do not recommend the dimple plugs. They are worse than the OEM in terms of failure. Having done MANY spyder oil changes, the OEM plugs are just fine if you use the right tools to remove and install them. Dimple refused to stand behind their defective product. Once you see a snapped off Dimple plug, its easy to see why they fail from the very thin wall under the o-ring. Bad product.
    I stand corrected.. I guess the other dimple plug with the o-rings is also failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    .Thanks, but could you turn them so we can see the flat surface ( and take new Pics ) I think the size of the Magnet they used weakened the PLUG to much ....... I think the GOLD plug magnet is smaller ......Mike
    Mike I used my caliper and here is what I got. outside dia.of threaded area 0.465, outside dia. of magnet 0.320 which means 0.145 is the diam. of both side of thread so 1/2 of that is 0.072.5 total for the outer thickness of the wall.
    also I noticed that the magnet is sticking out a lot more than the pic of a new one not sure if that was from trying to remove it or if it was like that when I got it.( I couldn`t move it when I tried ) I THOUGHT IT WAS STICKING OUT when I got but can`t be sure. (I will give dimple the benefit of the doubt and say it moved when it was removed)

    IF SOMEONE GETS ONE THAT IS STICKING OUT LIKE IN THE PIC DON`T USE IT BECAUSE THERE IS A 0.128 " hollow gap between the magnet and plug.
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    Just a question: Why are dimple bolts so expensive? Is Dimple a bolt manufactuer or just a jobber?

    I made my own oil plugs with magnets and use magnets on the out side of the oil reserve. Prevention
    is cheap.

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    I think that I might just leave the Dimples in the desk, and order some Gold Plugs...
    One thing that I DON'T want; is trouble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I think that I might just leave the Dimples in the desk, and order some Gold Plugs...
    One thing that I DON'T want; is trouble!
    Bob, why people even use a Torque wrench on an OIL PLUG is beyond ..... The amount of OIL pressure isn't very much so wrench tight is plenty tight enough.....if you see a drop of OIL on the floor tighten it a bit more.......jmho...Mike

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    Do you actually think that the Missus would let me anywhere NEAR the bike with a torque wrench?
    She barely lets me check the tire pressures...
    I'd be worried about what the techs at my dealership would do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Do you actually think that the Missus would let me anywhere NEAR the bike with a torque wrench?
    She barely lets me check the tire pressures...
    I'd be worried about what the techs at my dealership would do...
    .....Now that's something I can understand ............ Due to this thread I think everyone has learned something very important ......Maybe even " DIMPLE " ..........The small difference in Magnet size and it's ability to attract metal particles ( which is infinitesimal ) appears to make a MAJOR difference in the over-all STRENGTH of the THREAD WALL ....... and not just mho .... Mike

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    I once opined to her, that it would be nice to change the Spyder's oil on my own...

    It got ReAlLy ugly!

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    There's not a whole lot of things, that I wish I had never said... THAT; was one of them!
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    Default So far, so good..

    As long as the "red wagon" is ready to go, parts don't fall off (blue threadlok is my friend), and I can show my wife that my time is cheaper than the shop time I get to practice my wrenchin!

    And I can buy a few new tools along the way.. it's all good! (thanks to the hints and guidance from SL)
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    I envy you...
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    I got the "gold plugs" today and put them in. They fit great, look great, and work well. I am so glad to have gotten them today, my Spyder sat for 3 days and I couldn't ride it. The plugs are so much easier to tighten and remove, they have a head on each. One is a 15mm and the other is a 17 mm. In about 9000 miles, I am sure they will be very easy to remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semper Fi View Post
    I got the "gold plugs" today and put them in. They fit great, look great, and work well. I am so glad to have gotten them today, my Spyder sat for 3 days and I couldn't ride it. The plugs are so much easier to tighten and remove, they have a head on each. One is a 15mm and the other is a 17 mm. In about 9000 miles, I am sure they will be very easy to remove.
    ........Even tho they have that great HEX head ..... when you put the socket on give it a decent rap with a hammer to break the varnish SEAL........Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I once opined to her, that it would be nice to change the Spyder's oil on my own...

    It got ReAlLy ugly!

    Look out.jpg

    There's not a whole lot of things, that I wish I had never said... THAT; was one of them!
    I guess I am lucky. When it comes to any of our vehicles, as long as I don't get us stranded, Pebbles don't care what I do to our machines.

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