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    Default Need help 2014 RT trailer harness

    I installed a trailer module harness on my 2014 RT about a year ago and everything worked fine. Now my right turn signal will not work. The trailer is a homemade dog trailer. The problem is on the bike end. On the left side, with a volt meter, I have 12v dropping off to 1v as the signal cycles. On the right side I have 3v dropping g off to 1v as it cycles. Theses reading are at the 4 prong square connector at the bike. Anybody have any ideas?
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    Default WIRING ISSUES

    Start with the GROUND ...... lots of folks here have fixed their problems by making sure they had good continuous WIRED - GROUND from the trailer into / onto & thru the Spyder ..... good luck .... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Start with the GROUND ...... lots of folks here have fixed their problems by making sure they had good continuous WIRED - GROUND from the trailer into / onto & thru the Spyder ..... good luck .... Mike
    I would think that would be a good place to start if the problem was in the trailer wiring, but I have traced it back to the bike harness. I just can't imagine how I would get these different readings out of the bike harness??
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    Default WIRING ISSUE

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtrprts View Post
    I would think that would be a good place to start if the problem was in the trailer wiring, but I have traced it back to the bike harness. I just can't imagine how I would get these different readings out of the bike harness??
    Then the MODULE could be " FRIED " ......not un-common if the ground wasn't good through the system...... Some folks rely on the CONTACT GROUND between the BALL & the COUPLER, this appears to have caused problems to the BRP MODULE, at least this is what I have gathered from other POSTS on this forum........People who GROUND thru the PLUG CONNECTION don't seem to have this issue ....Mike

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    The voltage dropping sounds a lot like the symptoms I found when my module went out.


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    Mike, I'm afraid you are probably right on the module. I don't know what else it would be.
    I bought the module and hitch from a dealer in Florida, through eBay in December last year.
    I don't know if the warranty is worth pursuing. I can't seem to find just the wiring harness and module anywhere. The harness is always listed with the hitch. Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtrprts View Post
    Mike, I'm afraid you are probably right on the module. I don't know what else it would be.
    I bought the module and hitch from a dealer in Florida, through eBay in December last year.
    I don't know if the warranty is worth pursuing. I can't seem to find just the wiring harness and module anywhere. The harness is always listed with the hitch. Any suggestions?
    Cut the module out of the harness and splice in one from an auto parts store or a trailer parts place like etrailers.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Cut the module out of the harness and splice in one from an auto parts store or a trailer parts place like etrailers.com.

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    Question : If He is replacing the BRP " Module " wouldn't He have to get the type from " Value Accessories " ????.......... Mike

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    Module part # 710003903

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Question : If He is replacing the BRP " Module " wouldn't He have to get the type from " Value Accessories " ????.......... Mike
    Doesn't need to be that fancy. Here's a cheaper one without the fuse block http://wingstuff.com/products/26937-...?from_search=1. Just cut the connectors off and splice it in.

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    If the isolation/converter is fried just replace it like IdahoMtnSpyder says. As long as you have some decent wiring skills. Lots of them available. The original is from Hopkins. But the brand does not matter. It needs to be powered for the isolation function. Sometimes called 3 to 2 converter or sometimes called 5 to 4 converter. I did a quick search of Amazon and found 2 that should work. Also at a well stocked autoparts or trailer store. Those may come with a lot of extra stuff you don't need.

    https://www.amazon.com/CURT-56146-Wi...iler+converter

    https://www.amazon.com/Hopkins-48925...iler+converter

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    Thanks guys for all your help and part numbers. I'll let you know how it turns out. Maybe help someone else down the road.
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    Default MODULE

    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Doesn't need to be that fancy. Here's a cheaper one without the fuse block http://wingstuff.com/products/26937-...?from_search=1. Just cut the connectors off and splice it in.
    ......OK, my situation is slightly different. Both my 2014 RT and my trailer have separate stop / turn / running lights and the Trailers are all LED....... Most of what I see ( Hopkins etc ) are for Trailers with combined LIGHTS ...... Do you have any suggestions...... Thanks .....Mike

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    Default Hopkins Converter

    This is the same converter that BRP uses on my 2013, just splice in the BRP connectors.



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    I bought mine threw show chrome....its a 5 wire ...not getting full 12v...sounds likes a bag relay in the isolating system

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    ......OK, my situation is slightly different. Both my 2014 RT and my trailer have separate stop / turn / running lights and the Trailers are all LED....... Most of what I see ( Hopkins etc ) are for Trailers with combined LIGHTS ...... Do you have any suggestions...... Thanks .....Mike
    This one will do just what you need. https://rivcoproducts.com/gl18007-iu...er-wiring.html. If you search for Goldwing trailer isolator you may find a cheaper one. The one I use was for a Goldwing 1500 and used relays but it is no longer available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    This one will do just what you need. https://rivcoproducts.com/gl18007-iu...er-wiring.html. If you search for Goldwing trailer isolator you may find a cheaper one. The one I use was for a Goldwing 1500 and used relays but it is no longer available.
    .................................................. .................................................. ......Thanks, but i'd rather not be changing connectors if at all possible. I'm sure Hopkins makes one ......it just a matter of finding the right Number ....Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    .................................................. .................................................. ......Thanks, but i'd rather not be changing connectors if at all possible. I'm sure Hopkins makes one ......it just a matter of finding the right Number ....Mike
    Maybe this will work for you. It's from a site sponsor. All plug and play except you need to find a ground and 12V power source. Also the trailer end is 5 bare wires and you need to install the connector that matches your trailer.

    http://store.valueaccessories.net/Tr...sSpyderRT.aspx

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    I just wanted to give a quick update. I bought this hitch and wiring module from a can-am dealer on eBay. I called the dealer to inquire about warranty and they are gonna replace the module under warranty, no questions asked. BIG THANK YOU to Central Florida Powersports and to John who runs their Ebay sales department. IF you live in that part of the country, I would definitely recommend doing business with them.

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    CD Brake Light Modulator, CD Short Antenna, Elka 1+r Shocks, ISCI Brake, JT Dash Mount, Lamonster Cat Bypass, SP Bumpskid, SP Kott Grills, SP Belt Guard, Smooth Spyder Belt Tensioner


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtrprts View Post
    I just wanted to give a quick update. I bought this hitch and wiring module from a can-am dealer on eBay. I called the dealer to inquire about warranty and they are gonna replace the module under warranty, no questions asked. BIG THANK YOU to Central Florida Powersports and to John who runs their Ebay sales department. IF you live in that part of the country, I would definitely recommend doing business with them.

    Greg
    You're fortunate. I believe the BRP warranty is only 90 days on accessories sold over the counter & one year for dealer installed accessories.

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