What now??

[otter28169]

I am looking at the 2017 models and I am a bit worried. I have heard plenty of rumors as to why there are no new RS or ST models. My concern is, what machine am I going to buy when I get my next one? After spending significant time on all four models of spyder I have come to realize that the RS is my favorite by a long shot. Is BRP giving up on the sport market? Am I stuck waiting for another company to build a fun roadster? If anyone has some details as to what is going on with the RS, or the future plans that BRP might have, I would love to hear them.

Just sayin'............

[Chupaca]

Unfortunately I don't even think time will tell... may be when time runs out as it did with the Harley's we will get some good imports to match the spyder. Remember when the Suzuki Intruder was first introduced here state side. It could only come in as a 700 cc harley look a like. The Canadian version was a 750 cc. Then the ban ran out and we started getting they Intruder in 750 and 1100 cc and Kawazaki came in with the Vulcan and you know the rest of the story.

Soooo, if BRP doesn't bring the RS back we will get something like it here shortly....maybe that is the plan...

[Bob Denman]

Hi Chad,
Unfortunately; I think that "sticking a fork in them", is about your only option, for right now...
The RS & ST models are done...

BUT... who can tell what BRP is cooking up?

[Pirate looks at --]

Hi Chad,
Unfortunately; I think that "sticking a fork in them", is about your only option, for right now...
The RS & ST models are done...

BUT... who can tell what BRP is cooking up?

We spent last week with three reps from BRP, they have new items coming down the pipeline but we're very tight lipped and could not say anything about what things were in store. I know they have told me a "entry level" Spyder is on the way though. Also they did confirm that their marketing focus is on the Non-motorcycle riding community. 95% of the US population does NOT ride motorcycles. This is their area of focus for their Spyder products. The 5% that do ride motorcycles have so many choices and the battle is so fierce, they have chosen the larger piece of the pie. Look to see them more involved with NASCAR and automotive shows in the future. So are they abandoning the sport market? To some degree they are abadoning the "motorcycle" market!

[Bob Denman]

We spent last week with three reps from BRP, they have new items coming down the pipeline but we're very tight lipped and could not say anything about what things were in store. I know they have told me a "entry level" Spyder is on the way though. Also they did confirm that their marketing focus is on the Non-motorcycle riding community. 95% of the US population does NOT ride motorcycles. This is their area of focus for their Spyder products. The 5% that do ride motorcycles have so many choices and the battle is so fierce, they have chosen the larger piece of the pie. Look to see them more involved with NASCAR and automotive shows in the future. So are they abandoning the sport market? To some degree they are abandoning the "motorcycle" market!

I hope that's not as bad as it sounds...
I hope that what you were trying to say, is that they are "re-focusing their marketing efforts toward a new and un-tapped demographic".

[Pirate looks at --]

I hope that's not as bad as it sounds...
I hope that what you were trying to say, is that they are "re-focusing their marketing efforts toward a new and un-tapped demographic".

I think they realize that they will get their share of the motorcycle market as we age and seek to remain with our knees in the breeze we will seek out something like the Spyder, after all most spyder dealers sell other brands too so that is where they see their position with the MC population. As for the 95% of the population they look to show this as something fun, safe, and unique, something that will cause them to buy a Spyder but not any other motorcycle. Look to see a focus on the ladies as well.

[otter28169]

Demo the new F3 entry level model, it will snap your head back and looks really cool and it can sail around the curves like it is on rails.

Cruzr Joe

I have ridden the model for approximately 1000 miles, it is no faster than mine (as my father and I have tested this fact repeatedly), and it does not have the same feel. As to the looks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Buy a Ninja 300, Yamaha R3, Honda cbr300?

Sv650, FZ-07, gsx-s...zx6r, GSXR, R6?

You have loads of sport bike possibilities.

If I wanted a sport bike I would have kept one of the four I have owned. I want a spyder, just not one that feels like I am riding a couch. And what is with all the small displacement motors?? I am not poor or inexperienced, in my RS-S I have found something I like better. I just hate the fact that BRP is moving away from it.

We spent last week with three reps from BRP, they have new items coming down the pipeline but we're very tight lipped and could not say anything about what things were in store. I know they have told me a "entry level" Spyder is on the way though. Also they did confirm that their marketing focus is on the Non-motorcycle riding community. 95% of the US population does NOT ride motorcycles. This is their area of focus for their Spyder products. The 5% that do ride motorcycles have so many choices and the battle is so fierce, they have chosen the larger piece of the pie. Look to see them more involved with NASCAR and automotive shows in the future. So are they abandoning the sport market? To some degree they are abadoning the "motorcycle" market!

The customers you do tend to get out of the motorcycle market do tend to be the ones that are "settling" for the machine. It is a smart idea for them to market the machine to people that actually desire it. Entry level might also be nice for young riders, and if they offer customization options you might be able to create more of a family hobby similar to snowmobiling.

Just sayin'...........

[Bob Denman]

I have ridden the model for approximately 1000 miles, it is no faster than mine (as my father and I have tested this fact repeatedly), and it does not have the same feel. As to the looks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



If I wanted a sport bike I would have kept one of the four I have owned. I want a spyder, just not one that feels like I am riding a couch. And what is with all the small displacement motors?? I am not poor or inexperienced, in my RS-S I have found something I like better. I just hate the fact that BRP is moving away from it.



The customers you do tend to get out of the motorcycle market do tend to be the ones that are "settling" for the machine. It is a smart idea for them to market the machine to people that actually desire it. Entry level might also be nice for young riders, and if they offer customization options you might be able to create more of a family hobby similar to snowmobiling.

Just sayin'...........

so, is what you're sayin'...

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[Jenfz09]

I have ridden the model for approximately 1000 miles, it is no faster than mine (as my father and I have tested this fact repeatedly), and it does not have the same feel. As to the looks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



If I wanted a sport bike I would have kept one of the four I have owned. I want a spyder, just not one that feels like I am riding a couch. And what is with all the small displacement motors?? I am not poor or inexperienced, in my RS-S I have found something I like better. I just hate the fact that BRP is moving away from it.



The customers you do tend to get out of the motorcycle market do tend to be the ones that are "settling" for the machine. It is a smart idea for them to market the machine to people that actually desire it. Entry level might also be nice for young riders, and if they offer customization options you might be able to create more of a family hobby similar to snowmobiling.

Just sayin'...........

You gave up your sport bikes for a Spyder? I guess if I physically couldn't ride mine, I would too. Hope you are okay (I don't know your history). If I did get hurt and couldn't ride my Yamahas, I would want a sportier Spyder as an option.

If you are physically able to ride but don't want to be bent over, test ride an Indian Scout. It rides close to a sport bike.

[robmorg]

Unfortunately I don't even think time will tell... may be when time runs out as it did with the Harley's we will get some good imports to match the spyder. Remember when the Suzuki Intruder was first introduced here state side. It could only come in as a 700 cc harley look a like. The Canadian version was a 750 cc. Then the ban ran out and we started getting they Intruder in 750 and 1100 cc and Kawazaki came in with the Vulcan and you know the rest of the story.

Soooo, if BRP doesn't bring the RS back we will get something like it here shortly....maybe that is the plan...

Those early Suzuki Intruders really did look like the Harley's of the day. I wonder if that's where the term "poser" originated. I owned a Vulcan 750 - which "tried" to look like a Harley, but it never quide made it. Still not a bad looking bike, though.

Unfortunately, I don't think the RS or the ST will ever be back on the Spyder line-up. They may come out with something else in the future, but at least for now, I think BRP believes that the F3, with its 'UFit System", is the answer to everyone's dream. And that if some of us don't like it... well, then there must be something wrong with us.

There's nothing wrong with the F3 for many folks. It's just not the Spyder for everybody.

[PistonBlown]

Those early Suzuki Intruders really did look like the Harley's of the day. I wonder if that's where the term "poser" originated. I owned a Vulcan 750 - which "tried" to look like a Harley, but it never quide made it. Still not a bad looking bike, though.

Unfortunately, I don't think the RS or the ST will ever be back on the Spyder line-up. They may come out with something else in the future, but at least for now, I think BRP believes that the F3, with its 'UFit System", is the answer to everyone's dream. And that if some of us don't like it... well, then there must be something wrong with us.

There's nothing wrong with the F3 for many folks. It's just not the Spyder for everybody.

Had a Suzuki Intruder 800 and then a 1400 because it was about the only factory custom that looked like the sort of chop I wanted to build but didn't have time to do so. They were also the two bikes that taught me that for the distance riding I did feet forward just wasn't going to work. The power output was wrong for my sort of riding, the tank was stupidly small with a reserve that would only get to the side of the road, and the very thin front tire on the 800 didn't exactly suit wet riding either. But they looked good:-)

So the lesson learned was "May look good from the side but doesn't suit how I ride". Same for the F3 which is why I'll stick with my RS until another sporty 3 wheeler comes along.

[Jheck]

I am looking at the 2017 models and I am a bit worried. I have heard plenty of rumors as to why there are no new RS or ST models. My concern is, what machine am I going to buy when I get my next one? After spending significant time on all four models of spyder I have come to realize that the RS is my favorite by a long shot. Is BRP giving up on the sport market? Am I stuck waiting for another company to build a fun roadster? If anyone has some details as to what is going on with the RS, or the future plans that BRP might have, I would love to hear them.

Just sayin'............

I thought that the new Daytona was supposed to be the replacement for the RS? Relaxed nanny, drag bars, etc.?

[otter28169]

I thought that the new Daytona was supposed to be the replacement for the RS? Relaxed nanny, drag bars, etc.?

How have we not met at Gilligan's???

Until it get's the turbo and some added horsepower, I do not feel that it will be an adequate replacement for me. Not a bad model, and I like the F3-T, but the RS is prettier and I like it better for playing in the corners.

Just sayin'...........

[Jheck]

How have we not met at Gilligan's???

Until it get's the turbo and some added horsepower, I do not feel that it will be an adequate replacement for me. Not a bad model, and I like the F3-T, but the RS is prettier and I like it better for playing in the corners.

Just sayin'...........

we have met. Last summer, you and your wife came in on your RS.
we talked about trying to get 20 or so Spyders to show up at bike night. Last August I believe.
Than life got in the way and it never came to be. I still think it would be fun.

[Cruzr Joe]

How have we not met at Gilligan's???

Until it get's the turbo and some added horsepower, I do not feel that it will be an adequate replacement for me. Not a bad model, and I like the F3-T, but the RS is prettier and I like it better for playing in the corners.

Just sayin'...........

Demo the new F3 entry level model, it will snap your head back and looks really cool and it can sail around the curves like it is on rails.

Cruzr Joe

[Bob Denman]

I've got to agree with Joe...

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The center of gravity on them is a whole lot lower, than on the other models!

[ingramwc]

I rode a F3-S before I got my ST-S SE5, my biggest problem with the F3 was the foot position, it is just not comfortable for me. The ST is far better for me, I put my foot on the floor board, swing my leg over and sit down, and I am good to go. I could not do that on a F3. That is due to I have short legs along with 2 replaced hips that limit my range of motion.
The foot placement on a RS is good as well, I preferred the ST, so that is what I got. I am considering doing a cat bypass, other than that I am very happy with the ST.
I do not see myself looking to replace my Spyder any time in the next several years! By that time who knows what the market will bring...

Y'all ride safe out there!!!!!

[ARtraveler]

I am looking at the 2017 models and I am a bit worried. I have heard plenty of rumors as to why there are no new RS or ST models. My concern is, what machine am I going to buy when I get my next one? After spending significant time on all four models of spyder I have come to realize that the RS is my favorite by a long shot. Is BRP giving up on the sport market? Am I stuck waiting for another company to build a fun roadster? If anyone has some details as to what is going on with the RS, or the future plans that BRP might have, I would love to hear them.

Just sayin'............

At the moment, I think the F3 Daytona is going to be closest to your current wants. Its updated with the 1330 and has a mode to tame the VSS. Going in the right direction for those who want a little more. IMO.

Who knows what may come up at the great Homecoming Party? They may have a couple "bombs" to drop in the way of "new." If they are smart--they should have something.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

A few years ago I predicted the Spyders with the V-twins would be dropped ( it took longer that I thought ).......My NEW PREDICTION ...... BRP will bring back an RS type / style etc. Spyder .....however it will be powered by something other than the V-twin it had previously .... the 1330 triple ...possibly , however the engine from their base Sea-Doo is what I would bet money on, but punched out with more HP, ....JMHO........Mike

[ARtraveler]

A few years ago I predicted the Spyders with the V-twins would be dropped ( it took longer that I thought ).......My NEW PREDICTION ...... BRP will bring back an RS type / style etc. Spyder .....however it will be powered by something other than the V-twin it had previously .... the 1330 triple ...possibly , however the engine from their base Sea-Doo is what I would bet money on, but punched out with more HP, ....JMHO........Mike

and me too on the predictions.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

and me too on the predictions.

Yep, I should have said .....WE .............Mike

[Jenfz09]

Buy a Ninja 300, Yamaha R3, Honda cbr300?

Sv650, FZ-07, gsx-s...zx6r, GSXR, R6?

You have loads of sport bike possibilities.

[vondalyn]

and me too on the predictions.

me too on the predictions. I also think they may be taking the time needed to rework the body to fit the engine instead of repeating the 2013 RT issues.

[palover]

I am looking at the 2017 models and I am a bit worried. I have heard plenty of rumors as to why there are no new RS or ST models. My concern is, what machine am I going to buy when I get my next one? After spending significant time on all four models of spyder I have come to realize that the RS is my favorite by a long shot. Is BRP giving up on the sport market? Am I stuck waiting for another company to build a fun roadster? If anyone has some details as to what is going on with the RS, or the future plans that BRP might have, I would love to hear them.

Just sayin'............

Wait for the Honda Neo Wing, there will be a flood of used Spyder's on the market. Too many people have been frustrated BRP not owing up to mgf defects. I have owned several Spyder's and will be the first in line to trade my Spyder for a reliable Honda. I've had it with BRP and their lack of integrity. The last straw was forcing me to buy a new shock if I plan on riding two up on my 2015 F3s yet they furnish the F3 with passenger pegs, seat and backrest. Come on!!