Idler Wheel Kit / Belt Tensioner Accessory for F3

[Peteoz]

Hi,
any RT owner bought one these and do a mod? if the postage is reasonable to England. I think I will get one, looks like its only a bracket fitting mod, maybe replace plastic arm with stainless, as I work in engineer industry.
cheers nasty.

They aren't generally available yet, Nasty, apart from a few beta versions that have been installed for testing. I have preordered for Australia and they expect them to be here around late October.

[SpyderF3-s]

Ordered mine today from Temecula Motorsports. $34.77 But it is on back order.

[StanProff]

The kit should be FREE because it being sold to fix an engineering defect!


mark

BRP Steve, thanks for the info on the F3 idler wheel kits. This is a good step in the right direction for BRP. I am on my second RTS, the first was a 2010 and my present one is a 2014. lets face it, I believe all spyders have belt vibration at certain speeds and would all benefit from idler wheels. With any mechanical equipment, vibration is not a good thing. Over the long term, components are stressed and prone to failure. I am sure most of us simply avoid the speed and RPM's where our individual spyders vibrate the most. As mentioned in other post, tightening or loosening the belt will simply move the vibration one way or the other.
Is the vibration on an RT a deal breaker? Of course not, we all learn to ride and adapt to the short comings of our machines and it becomes 2nd nature for us. It would be great for BRP to continue to address this issue to help us out.

"some who may have experienced some belt vibration" Should Read: All who have experienced belt vibration.
"belt vibrations felt by some" Should Read: belt vibrations felt by all.

Of course we know corporate has to tip toe around saying too much. I understand. :-)
Thanks STEVE for you help and all that you do for us. It is greatly appreciated.
Stan

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[Roadster Renovations]

Bump for date reference.

[Semper Fi]

I have a 2016 F-3S and I am now able to buy one of these idler wheels. I am in PA. Can anyone tell me where and how to order one of these?

[Bob Denman]

Any BRP dealer can get you one of theirs.
But if you want one of Doc's: get in touch with the guy whose post is right above yours!
(Personally: I prefer his setup with 2 bearings!)

http://dochumphreys.wixsite.com/road...amper-products

They may be more money, but you're getting a whole lot more for your green!

[JoDot]

Of course BRP has recognized the vibration problem on the F3. I agree since it seems to be a mfg flaw, they should install the Idler Wheel Kit at their cost. Dream on, BRP is greedy. Why do you think all their accessories are double & triple the price of what we pay in the after market world. But if we don't buy it from BRP, they void our warranty. They don't care about the customer but they sure take our US dollars. Not fair!

[brass-monky]

I have read about all the different vibration dampeners out there but I was wondering about how well each holds up. How long do they last and who has had failures and what happens when they do fail. Do the bearings ever go out. It seems that the small size of some of the pulleys would make them have to run at a very high RPM.

[Firefly]

I have read about all the different vibration dampeners out there but I was wondering about how well each holds up. How long do they last and who has had failures and what happens when they do fail. Do the bearings ever go out. It seems that the small size of some of the pulleys would make them have to run at a very high RPM.

Considering the BRP one is $35 and the others are $200 - $300 this should make the decision pretty easy. You could replace the BRP one many times for the price of one of the others.
I've used the others and the BRP one flat out works better.


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[Bob Denman]

If "Cheap" is what matters to you:
But with Murphy's Law lurking: it's not going to fail in your driveway.
I think that Doc's setup should be more reliable over a longer period of time.

In my inexpert opinion; of course!

[Roadster Renovations]

The nice thing about our kit is that if you go the cheaper route you can still upgrade later and use the bracket and spring. Only thing you need is the arm and pulley ($100).

[hillbillywhisperer]

I installed the BRP one and it works like a charm. Easy install too. Hardest part is removing the panels.

[siny10309]

I have a 2016 F-3S and I am now able to buy one of these idler wheels. I am in PA. Can anyone tell me where and how to order one of these?

I ordered through Two Jacks up in Wilkesbarre and they just installed. waiting to go pick it up!

[ussoldier]

Any BRP dealer can get you one of theirs.
But if you want one of Doc's: get in touch with the guy whose post is right above yours!
(Personally: I prefer his setup with 2 bearings!)

http://dochumphreys.wixsite.com/road...amper-products

They may be more money, but you're getting a whole lot more for your green!

I do like this one from http://dochumphreys.wixsite.com/road...amper-products Is the BRP aluminum grade like dochumphreys? Otherwise, I prefer to get Doc Humphrey instead.

[hsteil]

Hi everyone,

We've got some great news for any F3 riders who have experienced some belt vibration at higher speeds.

As was discussed in this thread, BRP will in fact be offering an idler wheel kit (PN 219800412) accessory that will help reduce belt vibrations felt by some customers at certain cruising speeds.

The kit should be available this fall and its price is set at 34,99$ US/39,99$ CAN - note that this does not include installation time. Installation should take approximately 20 minutes.

This kit is only compatible with the F3 series of Spyders.

Please let us know if you have any questions!

- Steve

Hi Steve,

I posted this question in the past and again yesterday: Will this idler kit help with the awefull howl my belt makes around 65 and around 130???
( I ride in Germany, where the speeds are somewhat higher..) At my dealer we did various attempts with the tightness of the belt, to no avail.
I dont feel much of a vibration, but the belthowl is a pain, despite closed Shoei helmet!

Regards,Peter

Heidelberg, Germany

[Roadster Renovations]

Hi Steve,

I posted this question in the past and again yesterday: Will this idler kit help with the awefull howl my belt makes around 65 and around 130???
( I ride in Germany, where the speeds are somewhat higher..) At my dealer we did various attempts with the tightness of the belt, to no avail.
I dont feel much of a vibration, but the belthowl is a pain, despite closed Shoei helmet!

Regards,Peter

Heidelberg, Germany

Truthfully, I am not sure if it will fix the howl. I have had my '17 F3S Daytona up to 110 and other than a great deal of wind noise and exhaust sound, that was all. I think if I were you I would buy the cheaper BRP one first and if that fixes it, you can always buy the cheaper upgrade kit #1 and use the guts of the BRP kit.

http://dochumphreys.wixsite.com/road...amper-products

[Firefly]

Hi Steve,

I posted this question in the past and again yesterday: Will this idler kit help with the awefull howl my belt makes around 65 and around 130???
( I ride in Germany, where the speeds are somewhat higher..) At my dealer we did various attempts with the tightness of the belt, to no avail.
I dont feel much of a vibration, but the belthowl is a pain, despite closed Shoei helmet!

Regards,Peter

Heidelberg, Germany

Are you sure it's the belt? How many miles ?
I would check the front sprocket. Also could be a bearing.
Might also try some belt dressing/lube. Just a dab of synthetic grease often helps.

[Bob Denman]

I'm curious:
Is this a "real" 130, or the metric one?

[hsteil]

I'm curious:
Is this a "real" 130, or the metric one?

its kmh, or, as you call it, 'the un-real one'. But I do regularly cruise, with the Madstad-screen up, with around 155plus/minus kmh on clean stretches of Autobahn. We do have over 80 million people in a country barely larger than north Dakota, and still one can can find empty roads and even Autobahns. IF THERE WAS NOT THAT ANNOYING HOWL FROM THE BELT!!!!

Regards, Peter

[ca8920]

I ordered and installed the BRP Idler Wheel kit. It was easy and my trike's ride feels smoother all the way around.... A definite plus and winner.

[Hokiev]

Can anyone tell me if they have fixed this issue on the new 2017's F3's either by including the idler as standard or some other fix. Or do you have to purchase this to solve the vibration on new models also.

[Bob Denman]

The idler is still an accessory.
You have to realize that not everybody rides at the speeds where the harmonic vibrations occur.
It's more cost-effective for everybody, to address the need for it; only when it is actually needed...

[hillbillywhisperer]

Can anyone tell me if they have fixed this issue on the new 2017's F3's either by including the idler as standard or some other fix. Or do you have to purchase this to solve the vibration on new models also.

My 17 F3 Limited did not have it. I purchased BRP's idler and installed it in less than 30 minutes. I had the vibration between speeds of 65 to 75 mph. It works like a charm.

[eddieshep999]

I think anyone looking to buy an F3 should at least request the dealer fit the BRP Idler kit as part of the deal
Its cost is so small compared to the total purchase price I don't think any dealer would not be willing to do it

[fantabstic]

I bought my kit about 400 miles ago and it has developed a high pitch whine at 31-41 MPH. Any suggestions? Another thread has started on this issue stating that a bearing in the kit is bad.