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F3 Electric Concept Vehicle
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Interesting. ...
Would be cool if they really sounded that way.. guess sitting over a rather large battery pack is about as risky as sitting over an internal combustion engine. Wonder if it will get any further that the other concept vehicle....did like the color combo on the RS eco electric model....
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Give me gas any day.
I'm not interested in a battery powered Spyder. I drive a company car that's battery powered and it's 50/50 on battery and gas power. I only get about 35 miles on a full charge. By the end of my workday, I'm running on gas. But hey... it's a company car!
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call me
call me when this thing gets 200+ miles on a charge, and a recharge takes 3 minutes (as refueling with gas takes)....
otherwise, i'm not interested...
btw; what is Akrapovič planning to do for sound enhancements........???
the BIG ADVANTAGE with electric motors is, you have extreme accleration and instant torque.... NOT a bad idea, it's just that batteries aren't up to the job at this time....
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you people are not seeing the bright side of this, YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR CELL PHONE ON IT, but millage may vary, according to charge time of the phone
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TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!
This will go great with my electric Chevy Volt.
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Originally Posted by SPYD3R
the BIG ADVANTAGE with electric motors is, you have extreme accleration and instant torque.... NOT a bad idea, it's just that batteries aren't up to the job at this time....
SPYD3R
This one does not even have the acceleration in its favor. Its only 67HP. About half of a regular gas powered F3.
This is a college project funded by Canadian tax dollars. Not a real product development. Years late and way short of what others are already doing.
I would have been far more impressed if this lack luster set of specs was actually being announced for production. THAT would at least show BRP doing something beyond grandstanding and spending research tax dollars in a boondoggle.
As it is, the most impressive part of the whole shindig is the video production quality.
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Actually, the electric bikes do have those sounds. I've ridden the a Zero and a Victory.
Here's a little more information about the project: https://ceo.ca/@newswire/cta-present...oncept-vehicle
We should be excited about any electric vehicle projects and this improves the technology used which increases competition while driving down price.
Now, if you live in a rural (aka country) probably out of luck; however, if you live near a city there are probably a lot more recharge stations than you thought:
https://na.chargepoint.com/charge_point
80-90% recharge in 30 minutes (nice break for lunch or dinner) with Level2 charging.
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I am all for improving the technology and like the idea of an electric Spyder.
I think I am in the wrong business.
Spyder Elect.JPG
It took how many people to figure this out?
It took how long??
It cost how much???
Yikes!
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170 kilometer range = 106 miles. Just shy of 998 mileage. I'm glad they are at least working the concept. Batteries for these type applications have come a long way in the last few years in reliability, durability, heat management and recharge time. Solid state batteries are getting a lot of attention. Li batteries are still the choice. Aluminum Ion batteries are being developed as well. Cyclability and heat are the biggest factors in batteries for electric vehicles. Electric drive systems have also improved.
The three biggest drawbacks at this point to electric vehicles is battery life, mileage and recharge stations.
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Originally Posted by WA5VHU
I am all for improving the technology and like the idea of an electric Spyder.
I think I am in the wrong business.
Spyder Elect.JPG
It took how many people to figure this out?
It took how long??
It cost how much???
Yikes!
Did you know that GM has the only plant in the US producing electric drive systems for American made cars? It's in White Marsh.
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Originally Posted by bruiser
170 kilometer range = 106 miles. Just shy of 998 mileage.
The three biggest drawbacks at this point to electric vehicles is battery life, mileage and recharge stations.
Hi Jim,
After you travel those theoretical 106 miles: do you stop for the night, while it recharges?
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Originally Posted by bruiser
Did you know that GM has the only plant in the US producing electric drive systems for American made cars? It's in White Marsh.
I think you are overlooking Tesla
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And electric Spyder wouldn't be for me. But if I played golf, maybe it could replace a caddy?
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Could you imagine the cost of fixing an issue. It's bad enough for ROTAX issues.
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Good for PR but not realistic for the "real" world I don't think. Electric vehicles in general are a waste of time in my opinion. They just seem to be a band aid (an expensive one) for whatever is going to be the future of transportation. Personally I'd rather see all those $ being spent on a hydrogen infrastructure. The same vehicle you drive today could run on hydrogen if the infrastructure were there to provide it. The technology has been around for a long time.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
I think I see another April Fool prank coming up.
Seriously though--two questions do come up. Range and price. That will determine if they have a winner or just a green ad campaign.
The "eco" would be a very small segment of a very small segment of the market.
Have to wait and see, but will not hold my breath.
Looks like 105 miles range.
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Alright, it might be nice to be able to boast that your Spyder produces Zero emissions as you ride, but does anyone ever think about the emissions produced when they generate the electricity that you use to recharge these things?? And what about the 'environmental costs' of making the batteries in the first place, then disposing of them once they are no longer useable??
Personally, I can't see 'battery operated' electric vehicles like this as anything but a gimmick designed to make suckers of people who never look further than the publicity blurb/sound bite!!
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Originally Posted by Rob Rodriguez
Good for PR but not realistic for the "real" world I don't think. Electric vehicles in general are a waste of time in my opinion. They just seem to be a band aid (an expensive one) for whatever is going to be the future of transportation. Personally I'd rather see all those $ being spent on a hydrogen infrastructure. The same vehicle you drive today could run on hydrogen if the infrastructure were there to provide it. The technology has been around for a long time.
And where do you think the hydrogen would come from? Hydrogen is NOT a fuel source. Its an energy storage media. IE you take energy FROM some other source and use it to produce hydrogen. The hydrogen is then used to propel a vehicle.
Besides, the only reason hydrogen is of any practical use is that fuel cells that run on liquid fuels directly have not been practical.
The VAST majority of hydrogen used in powering vehicles and in process industries comes from reacting natural gas at very high temperatures with steam. A steam methane reformer. Its a less than 50% efficient use of the energy in the natural gas.
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Originally Posted by Peter Aawen
Alright, it might be nice to be able to boast that your Spyder produces Zero emissions as you ride, but does anyone ever think about the emissions produced when they generate the electricity that you use to recharge these things?? And what about the 'environmental costs' of making the batteries in the first place, then disposing of them once they are no longer useable??
Personally, I can't see 'battery operated' electric vehicles like this as anything but a gimmick designed to make suckers of people who never look further than the publicity blurb/sound bite!!
If the electric grid is already nearing it's capacity; what's going to happen, when everybody plugs in their cars and motorcycles each night?
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