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    I spent yesterday afternoon installing a 12vdc power port on my F3S directly to
    the battery and after verify that everything worked correctly it dawned on me
    that my GPS was in charging mode. So, the question is, do I have a drain on the
    battery even when nothing is connected to the battery. Do I need to connect a
    switch? On another note, I have 2 set up wires that are hooked up to the key panel.
    What are they for?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray View Post
    I spent yesterday afternoon installing a 12vdc power port on my F3S directly to
    the battery and after verify that everything worked correctly it dawned on me
    that my GPS was in charging mode. So, the question is, do I have a drain on the
    battery even when nothing is connected to the battery. Do I need to connect a
    switch? On another note, I have 2 set up wires that are hooked up to the key panel.
    What are they for?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dray
    The GPS should be connected to a switched power source. That way it will automatically startup when powered. Shutdown automatically when power is disconnected and not draw power in standby. It is my understanding that the F3 has a switched power accessories connection. Just for a purpose just like this. Why did you not use it?

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    There are three switched power lines on the F3.
    One is under the passenger seat with a rubber boot attached.
    Another is under the left hand service panel (safety card)
    The third is in the frunk area by the battery

    All are claearly marked “Customer Accessory Circuit” or something like that.
    They are switched on with startup and switched off on shut down

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    You will have to change the power hook up..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray View Post
    I spent yesterday afternoon installing a 12vdc power port on my F3S directly to
    the battery and after verify that everything worked correctly it dawned on me
    that my GPS was in charging mode.
    The only way you're going to not drain your battery with a direct hookup is to disconnect anything drawing power from it when you shut down the spyder. Follow the advice given and hookup to one of the switched accessory plugs. Almost EVERYONE I know who had a direct hookup power supply has forgotten about their devices and drained their batteries overnight.

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    Call it a senior moment or a brain F rt! Actually did not think about it.
    Pulled the side cover and low and behold there is a cable with a label
    for customer just looking at me. Wow, the down side is the tape would
    hold a tank together. Finally got it off and everything is almost back together.

    On the key cover there is 2 different sets of wires, what are they for??

    Thanks for all the help!!

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    I think those are for heated grips and fog lights, at least that's what they used them for on my F3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reissooz View Post
    I think those are for heated grips and fog lights, at least that's what they used them for on my F3.
    I have my heated hand grips using one, could I wire a power port from the other?

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    I just did mine. The other side will be for fog lights when I get them.



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    Where did you buy the power port...it is what I am looking for to hook up GPS / cell phone charging. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mississippi Rambler View Post
    Where did you buy the power port...it is what I am looking for to hook up GPS / cell phone charging. Thanks
    I bought mine from ebay. costed me about $3
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    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    I bought mine from ebay. costed me about $3
    Thanks, guess my question should have been....is that the same in build as the one BRP sells for $35? Want to make sure I get one that fits the hole and keep it tidy.

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    Let me note something.

    If you connect a power connector directly to the battery and that power connector is not a straight to 12volt plug like a powerlet or standard 12 volt automotive plug you may be asking for trouble.

    In fact you may be asking for trouble if you do the above too. Here's why:

    - If it is a directly connected USB power port then that port will be a battery "VAMPIRE" as it will constantly be dropping 12 volts at the port to 5 volts for USB. Now, to be clear, it consumes more power if you leave your usb powered device plugged in and on or charging. However - Even with no SUB device or cable plugged into it, it still has a minor load due to it's internal circuitry and will draw "X" amount of milliamps which over time can drain your battery.

    - If you plug a USB adapter into the powerlet (Powerlet sells one just for powerlets) or one of the common two port USB automotive style plugs, you will also end up with a battery vampire.

    So, Used switched circuits and you'll never have to worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WackyDan View Post
    Let me note something.
    - If it is a directly connected USB power port then that port will be a battery "VAMPIRE" as it will constantly be dropping 12 volts at the port to 5 volts for USB. Now, to be clear, it consumes more power if you leave your usb powered device plugged in and on or charging. However - Even with no SUB device or cable plugged into it, it still has a minor load due to it's internal circuitry and will draw "X" amount of milliamps which over time can drain your battery.

    - If you plug a USB adapter into the powerlet (Powerlet sells one just for powerlets) or one of the common two port USB automotive style plugs, you will also end up with a battery vampire.

    So, Used switched circuits and you'll never have to worry about it.
    I use my (Lamonsters, actually) "Powerlet" as input for the battery tender, Wacky, so it can't be switched. When I head out, I pop in my USB plug to power my iPhone with FOBO on it. When I get home, out comes the USB plug, in goes the battery tender.....works a treat......BUT...... I didn't even think of the work the USB plug might be doing if I left it in there overnight when travelling, even without the phone connected. I'll make sure I take it out overnight in future.....just in case. Thanks for the heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteoz View Post
    I use my (Lamonsters, actually) "Powerlet" as input for the battery tender, Wacky, so it can't be switched. When I head out, I pop in my USB plug to power my iPhone with FOBO on it. When I get home, out comes the USB plug, in goes the battery tender.....works a treat......BUT...... I didn't even think of the work the USB plug might be doing if I left it in there overnight when travelling, even without the phone connected. I'll make sure I take it out overnight in future.....just in case. Thanks for the heads up.
    Overnight I'd doubt you'd have an issue, but let a few go by parked and maybe. Then comes the day a few years later when your battery isn't up to par anymore and that is when it adds up fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    I just did mine. The other side will be for fog lights when I get them.



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    How did you get it to fit? I bought one off Amazon but it has more "girth" than the hole. I know that sounds bad, but you know what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderCodes View Post
    There are three switched power lines on the F3.
    One is under the passenger seat with a rubber boot attached.
    Another is under the left hand service panel (safety card)
    The third is in the frunk area by the battery

    All are claearly marked “Customer Accessory Circuit” or something like that.
    They are switched on with startup and switched off on shut down
    ARE THERE ANY OF THESE "PRE-DETERMINED" CUSTOMER CIRCUITS AVAILABLE ON THE 15 RTS- SE6 AND IF SO WHERE WOULD ONE FIND ONE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by armyspydervet View Post
    How did you get it to fit? I bought one off Amazon but it has more "girth" than the hole. I know that sounds bad, but you know what I mean
    You have to make the hole a bit bigger

    I just used a drill bit and ran it along the edges until the power plug fit. Take the piece off and do it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    You have to make the hole a bit bigger

    I just used a drill bit and ran it along the edges until the power plug fit. Take the piece off and do it.


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    I did the same, works great and looks good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    The GPS should be connected to a switched power source. That way it will automatically startup when powered. Shutdown automatically when power is disconnected and not draw power in standby. It is my understanding that the F3 has a switched power accessories connection. Just for a purpose just like this. Why did you not use it?
    Hello Billybovine,

    Since you obviously know about the wiring and power on the Spyder, I have a question about the amperage of the power port. I have 2 in my trunk (think the dealer installed an extra one using the existing wiring I'd read about in another post, when he wired in my SENA dongle). I cannot find any reference to 2 12v ports in the manual about fuses, or on the fuse map on the spyder (I've attached the pages fm the manual abt fuses-IF I did the right attach method).

    I have a 12v air pump that draws 95w. That would be about 8amps. As best as I can read the info in the manual, these 12v power ports have a 5a fuse. Is that correct? If I needed to run an 8 amp load I think I'd need a 10a fuse. Will the present conductors be safe protected by a 10a fuse? Or would I need to run new conductors to power an 8a load on a power port protected by a 10a fuse?

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    [QUOTE=_..stiffler..;1166930]I just did mine. The other side will be for fog lights when I get them.



    So Stiff, as I read it they are essentially two more customer power ports that come on with ignition? Then fit a USB like you have done for phone and maybe the usual cigarette lighter plug in the other for GPS?

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    [QUOTE=StreetBob;1200133]
    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    I just did mine. The other side will be for fog lights when I get them.



    So Stiff, as I read it they are essentially two more customer power ports that come on with ignition? Then fit a USB like you have done for phone and maybe the usual cigarette lighter plug in the other for GPS?
    The one on the right has wiring for the US fog lights connected to the blank already in place, Streetbob. We in Aus have our low beams where the US fog lights go, so the wiring from the blank goes somewhere obscure on our F3s. (If that makes sense)
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    [QUOTE=StreetBob;1200133]
    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    I just did mine. The other side will be for fog lights when I get them.



    So Stiff, as I read it they are essentially two more customer power ports that come on with ignition? Then fit a USB like you have done for phone and maybe the usual cigarette lighter plug in the other for GPS?
    There is customer accessory plug under there. You have to add connectors on the wires tho. It's not like under the rear seat.

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    I use these. Whoever invented them was a genius:

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    Here is my setup on mine.

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