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I hate to read stories like this because they usually hit so close to home.
If you use a wrench you’ll make mistakes.
That’s just the way the universe operates.
If you are like me you’ll probably only make the same mistake a couple of more times.
Seriously, if you haven’t gotten the plug out yet the only thing left to try is an easy-out.
Be careful not to drill up though the plug because you don’t want drill shavings in the engine.
The magnet should be hard and prevent that.
Use a good drill sized for the easy-out.
Once the easy-out is locked in you should be able to apply enough downward force to extract the plug.
Then, as mentioned it’s heli-coil to the rescue.
Take your time and remember to try not to do anything that would cause more harm.
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EZZ out
Originally Posted by spyderryder53
oh well that didn`t work
Leon
Here is an idea. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and ask for a set of ezz outs. They come in sets. Usually they will have the proper drill for the specific size of ezz out. Drill proper size hole in bottom of plug. Then inert ezz out into hole and turn. The ezz out turns the opposite direction of threads. Right to loosen and left to tighten. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by DrewNJ
Hell must be frozen over because I agree with you.[emoji38] I only use torque wrenches when I have multiple fasteners that need to be consistently the same torque, like a head for example or something very specific.
The routine maintenance stuff is way more common sense.
Like I tell my kid, you have to be smarter than the tool!😉
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Originally Posted by viperryder
Here is an idea. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and ask for a set of ezz outs. They come in sets. Usually they will have the proper drill for the specific size of ezz out. Drill proper size hole in bottom of plug. Then inert ezz out into hole and turn. The ezz out turns the opposite direction of threads. Right to loosen and left to tighten. Hope this helps.
That's not going to work because the plug is just spinning in the case drain hole. Once you start to drill the plug will just spin.
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Like others have said, I think you need to be pulling on the plug while turning at the same time. Then try and wedge a screwdriver tip between the plug flange and case in order to assist the plug out of the hole.
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Alrighty then...
This will work but will be a chore....place a box end wrench on the plug and drill in about an inch. Tap (flat tip tap) and thread in a threaded rod a couple inches long. Now place a socket just a bit larger than the plug over the plug with threader rod through the center. Place some flat washers and a nut on the threaded rod and slowly tighten the nut. You will be pulling out the threads but you will get the plug out and repair it from there. When re-tapping the drain put grease on the tap to hold the shavings to keep them out of the engine....or again take her in...
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Bummer that's not the dealer you want. Considering it's not a warranty thing, the drain plug, autos hop could help or any bike shop...
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update
Originally Posted by spyderryder53
I was changing my oil and went to loosen the drain plug on the right side and it just spins
I don`t even want think what that's going to cost to fix . so much for saving money
Leon
ended up replacing the clutch cover
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Originally Posted by spyderryder53
I was changing my oil and went to loosen the drain plug on the right side and it just spins
I don`t even want think what that's going to cost to fix . so much for saving money
Leon
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So, fixed!
Take the clutch cover, put in a vise. Use a set of diagonal side cutters to put force on plug. Turn Allen while squeezing. Has worked for me. Joe
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Originally Posted by spyderryder53
ended up replacing the clutch cover
Leon
So was your dimple plug to blame?
I also have a plug that just spins. Except mine is the other plug.
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Originally Posted by beefybudds
So was your dimple plug to blame?
I also have a plug that just spins. Except mine is the other plug.
Not sure but when i put something between the head and used a. Inpact wrench to slowly take it out only half came out. From now on i will let the dealer do it.
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Originally Posted by spyderryder53
Not sure but when i put something between the head and used a. Inpact wrench to slowly take it out only half came out. From now on i will let the dealer do it.
Leon
How much did it cost to fix it?
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Who's your regular dealer ?
Who didn't want any part of the repair ?
Do I understand you correctly ? The drain plug is mounted in the clutch cover, and replacing the clutch cover gave you a new drain plug mount ?
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This has been a very informative and educational thread. Great responses from people who know what they're talking about. It sucks that this happened to the OP, but at least he got it resolved. I was not aware that the right side drain plug went into the replacable clutch cover, I thought it went straight into the block.
BTW, I use the same torque wrench as Drew and jaherbst. Been using it for as long as I've been working on my own motorcycles.
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Originally Posted by ThreeWheels
Who's your regular dealer ?
Who didn't want any part of the repair ?
Do I understand you correctly ? The drain plug is mounted in the clutch cover, and replacing the clutch cover gave you a new drain plug mount ?
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There are 2 plugs , 1 is in the clutch cover they couldn't rethead it so had to replace it
Marks motorsports did the job
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spyderpops LED bumpskid ,zippered cargo bag linings, Laser Alignment by Netzleys Tire, Stebal air horn
stant gas cap,( Dimple oil plugs REMOVED ) JT dash mount.
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Originally Posted by beefybudds
How much did it cost to fix it?
781.00
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BRP trailer hitch, Utopia back rest, Baja Ron sway bar , heim links. Elka stage 2 shocks front and rear.
TricLed fender lights, saddlebag lights and mirror lights. LED headlights and fog lights, Wide vu mirrors.
spyderpops LED bumpskid ,zippered cargo bag linings, Laser Alignment by Netzleys Tire, Stebal air horn
stant gas cap,( Dimple oil plugs REMOVED ) JT dash mount.
(Onboard) Lamonster Garage air compressor and intelliboost charger.
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Originally Posted by spyderryder53
781.00
Leon
Wow $781. So sorry to hear, thats a lot of money. I am starting to think I can not afford my can am.
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Originally Posted by kbwitt
Wow $781. So sorry to hear, thats a lot of money. I am starting to think I can not afford my can am.
Kenn
Well thats not something that has to be done unless you strip. Your threads .
From now on i will let the dealer do my oil changes and check everything else at the same time . Its only once a year .
Leon
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2014 RT S SE-6 COGNAC, 2010 RT 622 TRAILER TIMELESS BLACK
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TricLed fender lights, saddlebag lights and mirror lights. LED headlights and fog lights, Wide vu mirrors.
spyderpops LED bumpskid ,zippered cargo bag linings, Laser Alignment by Netzleys Tire, Stebal air horn
stant gas cap,( Dimple oil plugs REMOVED ) JT dash mount.
(Onboard) Lamonster Garage air compressor and intelliboost charger.
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to late now but for future advice
Originally Posted by spyderryder53
781.00
Leon
To late now, but for future repairs. Just go to the next size up in plug size. Drill and re-tap to the next size up plug. No need to buy a whole cover when this would do it. Sorry you had this happen, expensive.
Chris
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