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Originally Posted by Reginald
This seems to be a common problem where the car driver thinks the modulated light is a signal. Generally blinking lights are signals. Can't remember where I read it but there is a higher incidence of cars turning left in front of the oncoming modulated MC.
I'm skeptical. First, the modulation frequency is much higher than what anyone can generate with the turn signal lever. If a driver can't recognize that something is different he's not going to recognize your existence on the road. No kind of lights will help in that case.
Second, I can tell you there have been several times when I've seen cars suddenly stop when they were getting ready to pull out in front of me. There is no question in my mind the headlight modulation caught their attention. I've been using one for 10 years now.
There was one time at dusk after the modulation had turned off due to low light a car was going to pull out in front of me at an intersection. I flashed my lights a half dozen times. He finally figured out I was on a motorcycle reasonably close, not a car a half mile down the road, and waited for me to pass by.
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Can't find study I read on left turning vehicles into modulated lights. But,,,,
No statistical benefit from NHTSA:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...19745492,d.eWE
View point from reputable Total Motorcycle with references for further reading/study:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/BBS/v...ic.php?t=31170
If you feel better with them, go for it. For me not worth the money and I stand by what I read. For me, brighter but not blinding lights! IMHO
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Originally Posted by Reginald
The NHTSA report is interesting, but I have a couple of issues with the study. First, the 32 participants all knew they were engaged in a study of awareness. That had to have created a bias compared to the real world situation of trying to get motorists to become aware in the first place. Second, the physical orientation of the test vehicle and subjects with relation to real world traffic flows was unrealistic.
The Total Motorcycle comment is more an expression of the author's assessment than a reiteration of factual information.
The nature of the issue, making motorists aware of oncoming motorcycles from the left, is by its nature a very tough nut to crack. Did you read the RAF pilot's explanation I link to above? He has a very rational explanation of why motorists do not see motorcycles, and it is not always a case of negligence.
As far as annoying car & truck drivers my attitude is I'd much rather have them pi**ed off at me and know that I am there than not be pi**ed and not know I am there. If flashing lights are of such minimal value why are they used on emergency vehicles, flying airplanes, on school buses, and on the top of radio towers?
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I have not had anyone come close to turning into my lane. I use this, I don't know if this is the reason, but it can't hurt. It's not the standard modulated headlight.
http://www.skenedesign.com/lights/PB_Features.shtml
Last edited by Rogue Hawk; 04-18-2016 at 03:14 PM.
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Originally Posted by wyliec
I haven't seen a trucker do that in years.
I do it almost every time I am passed. Been doing it for years in my trucks. It is a courtesy we try to pass on to each other. Not always reciprocated.
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Originally Posted by xwingnut
Also, remember that truckers use the flashing headlights as a "pull-over-it's-safe" signal.
jb
Sadly, human beings are notoriously accident prone and someone seeing a modulated (wobbly) headlight approaching them for the first time may assume it means whatever they want it to mean.
Being more noticeable on the road is a worthy aim but IMO safety requires that any new scheme intended to bring this about first requires publicity.
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Originally Posted by GeoffCee
Being more noticeable on the road is a worthy aim but IMO safety requires that any new scheme intended to bring this about first requires publicity.
Publicity would be good to help make the public aware of what modulators are. Once in awhile I still see people pull over thinking I'm an emergency vehicle. I may send a letter to the editor of the local paper to get at least a little bit of info out there. As far as being a new scheme here in the US modulators have been out well over 15 years, maybe even around twenty. The current federal regulation was issued in 2000.
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Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Once in awhile I still see people pull over thinking I'm an emergency vehicle.
Sharing the attributes of an emergency vehicle, have you thought of carrying a couple of flares and a small quantity of bandages?
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