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    Default Compairison between Belt vibration --Smooth Spyder versus Baker-Built

    Has sanyone compared the 3000--4400 RPM vibration decrease between the Smooth Spyder & Baker built models? Baker Built is now on the upper side of belt & Smooth Spyder is on the lower side of belt. I may be looking for a magic vibration solution caused by engine internal balance issue.- but I'm no quitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    Has sanyone compared the 3000--4400 RPM vibration decrease between the Smooth Spyder & Baker built models? Baker Built is now on the upper side of belt & Smooth Spyder is on the lower side of belt. I may be looking for a magic vibration solution caused by engine internal balance issue.- but I'm no quitter
    Thanks for any conclusive help.
    Darrell
    Haven't compared the two head to head but I do have the Baker tensioner and was suprised that it was on the top belt. I didn't expect much when I installed but was very pleasantly suprised at how well it worked.

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    Smoothspyder is on the top as well.

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    Default on the top of the bottom :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by fencepost View Post
    Smoothspyder is on the top as well.
    Say what??

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    Default My Smoothspyder...

    Quote Originally Posted by fencepost View Post
    Smoothspyder is on the top as well.


    Mine is on the bottom of the bottom, pushing up. On an RT Limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperman View Post
    Mine is on the bottom of the bottom, pushing up. On an RT Limited.
    I have an RT and mine is also pushing up from the bottom, on my Smooth Spyder that is.

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    Default Let's see..!!

    smoothspyder on all models up to the F3 are on the bottom. The top is taught when on the throttle the bottom loose. However the F3 has a longer belt and I know baker added a top roller as well. Don't know that there are any upper lower for any of the 08 thru14's... don't know anyone offhand that has tried them both...
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    Guys, this thread is in the F3 section. The SmoothSpyder tensioner for the F3 is on the top of the belt and like most of his products, very well designed and built.

    The RT tensioners are on the bottom. Different belt lengths result in different vibration issues.

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    Different bikes; different needs... Thanks for reminding us!
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    Originally Posted by Copperman
    Mine is on the bottom of the bottom, pushing up. On an RT Limited.




    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    Guys, this thread is in the F3 section. The SmoothSpyder tensioner for the F3 is on the top of the belt and like most of his products, very well designed and built.

    The RT tensioners are on the bottom. Different belt lengths result in different vibration issues.

    OOPS! Never mind...
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    Default SMOOTH SPYDER TENSIONER

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    The latest smooth spyder is on the top belt...works great!

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    Default WHICH IS EASIER TO INSTALL

    Not being much of a mechanic, the Baker looks like it is easier to install and/or calibrate. Is that correct ? I worry about the bearings in them both, those things must be really hauling the mail ! Any insight would be appreciated !
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    Do we have any reports of how BRP's tensioner is working out?
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    I have about 1k on a BRP tensioner...works great! On top by the way.
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    The BRP one is just for the F3 right ? I need one for the RT
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    Default RT Plus Belt tensioner

    Quote Originally Posted by tmcquain View Post
    The BRP one is just for the F3 right ? I need one for the RT
    Check out Smoothspyder site they have most models available now
    http://www.smoothspyder.com/belt-tensioners/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Check out Smoothspyder site they have most models available now
    http://www.smoothspyder.com/belt-tensioners/
    Doc Humphreys has an adapter for the use of the BRP tensioner on the RT. I believe they are for sale now, but there are 5 of them going to testers that will provide test data and opinions on them. Contact Doc Humphreys for more information, but it is said that they actually work better of the RT than they do the F3

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    Joel managed to adapt BRP's tensioner to his RT.
    Here's the pictures that he posted:
    IMGP0050.jpgIMGP0052.jpgIMGP0054.jpgIMGP0058.jpg

    Unfortunately; I have nothing but the pictures...
    I think that I'll wait to see what Doc H comes up with. I've used some of his other products, and have been impressed by them!
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    Default Smooth syder

    A plus on quality, easy to install but no long term results other than the bike hauls butt without any vibes up to 80

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Do we have any reports of how BRP's tensioner is working out?
    I know an F3 rider in Canada who did Beta Testing on the BRP tensioner, and reports that the difference is remarkable. Rode from Ontario to SpyderQuest & back and was very comfortable with the long ride.
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    Default Idler pulley

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Do we have any reports of how BRP's tensioner is working out?
    Just installed a BRP idler pulley $40.00 took 40mins have to remove 2 panels on f3t . Remove 2 bolts and install. Took for ride vibes all gone what a pleasure to not have to ride around the belt vibrations.

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    Default Idler pulley

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    Has sanyone compared the 3000--4400 RPM vibration decrease between the Smooth Spyder & Baker built models? Baker Built is now on the upper side of belt & Smooth Spyder is on the lower side of belt. I may be looking for a magic vibration solution caused by engine internal balance issue.- but I'm no quitter
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    installed on my f3t a BRP pulley took 40 mins , works great no more vibes.

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    Default Made for us version

    Quote Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
    installed on my f3t a BRP pulley took 40 mins , works great no more vibes.
    The Australian bikes have smaller rear sprocket with shorter belts hence the BRP roller sits about 1.5 inches lower = lower tension on belt.
    It still improved 60 mph vibrations. I now notice vibrations on foot boards from engine vibrations and handle bar vibrations a little more.

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    My F3S is much smoother. What surprised me was how much less fatigue I experienced. I believe we all notice the heavy vibration at 55-65 mph, but there are low frequency vibrations that we are unaware of that will began to ware on the rider. I think it is a very important install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhammy View Post
    The Australian bikes have smaller rear sprocket with shorter belts hence the BRP roller sits about 1.5 inches lower = lower tension on belt.
    It still improved 60 mph vibrations. I now notice vibrations on foot boards from engine vibrations and handle bar vibrations a little more.
    I noticed the same vibrations. I am still very pleased with the tensioner...
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