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    Default D E S S CODE FIX*j

    Discounted the negative battery wire waited a minute reconected and it reset. Now have stopped and restarted several times. It has started ok so far, time will tell. .

    I have a 2014 Rt s with 8,300 miles stoped to refuel went to restart got the dess code tried a bunch a differentimes no go. Got out other key, I am traveling 2,000 miles from home it did not work.
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    Did you disconnect the negative and reconnect to reset the computers and it worked then it stopped again..?? Best take it to the dealer and have them fix it. Many have gotten it started but eventually it will not at all... get the new parts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbwitt View Post
    Discounted the negative battery wire waited a minute reconected and it reset. Now have stopped and restarted several times. It has started ok so far, time will tell. .

    I have a 2014 Rt s with 8,300 miles stoped to refuel went to restart got the dess code tried a bunch a differentimes no go. Got out other key, I am traveling 2,000 miles from home it did not work.
    Kenn
    Trust... it will be back!

    Your not the first to do this as a temporary fix...
    It's only a temporary fix as there is a problem with some 2014/2015 Spyders with this issue!
    It will be back and I am sorry to tell you this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finless View Post
    Trust... it will be back!

    Your not the first to do this as a temporary fix...
    It's only a temporary fix as there is a problem with some 2014/2015 Spyders with this issue!
    It will be back and I am sorry to tell you this fact.

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    Thanks for this info!
    Didn't Dee mention another roadside repair procedure; something about rapidly switching the bike on and off again a bunch of times?
    (It's better to have lots of arrows in the quiver! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Thanks for this info!
    Didn't Dee mention another roadside repair procedure; something about rapidly switching the bike on and off again a bunch of times?
    (It's better to have lots of arrows in the quiver! )
    Yes, I also got this idea from my service tech
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    Turning the key off and on 3 times quickly is in fact a real procedure for clearing "active faults".
    So this works not just for the DESS fault but most other faults and codes as well.

    Much faster than doing the mythical "key walk".

    However, it doesn't mean the problem is fixed and the faults "could" come back right away.

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    Bob,
    Doesn't that also re-set all of the preferences on the back to their default settings?
    (I'm fussy about the audio settings... )
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    I remember somewhere in these tangled web of DESS error threads, it was mentioned that the "possible" problem was high/intense RF saturating the key.

    Of all the talk to date this is the only thing that so far makes any sense, especially given the hit/miss of the problem. Naturally, this is completely speculation.
    However I am asking those that are experiencing the problem and have not had a module replaced OR those that have had a module replaced BUT are still experiencing the problem to do TRY the following.

    Carry a 2" wide strip of aluminum/tim foil in your wallet or glove box.
    If the problem occurs, wrap the head of your key with the foil and try try starting again.
    I know this sounds weird/geeky/fill-in the blank, but humor me and let the Spyder Community know if it worked.
    If nothing else it will help to narrow down the possible problems with the module and nothing is lost but a few seconds of your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by finless View Post
    Turning the key off and on 3 times quickly is in fact a real procedure for clearing "active faults".
    So this works not just for the DESS fault but most other faults and codes as well.

    Much faster than doing the mythical "key walk".

    However, it doesn't mean the problem is fixed and the faults "could" come back right away.

    Bob
    Well that's a new one. Sounds like a possible myth in the making to me. Do you have a source for this procedure. Turning off the key for 30 seconds is in the service manual, but turning the key off 3 times quik I have not seen before.

    Yes Bob I think your audio settings will get blown out.

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    Thanks, Billy! If I had to use it; at least I'll know why the music sounds so bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Well that's a new one. Sounds like a possible myth in the making to me. Do you have a source for this procedure. Turning off the key for 30 seconds is in the service manual, but turning the key off 3 times quik I have not seen before.

    Yes Bob I think your audio settings will get blown out.
    I first heard about this a while back from Ann Meyer. I then asked a Tech and he said it is a valid procedure. Heck Ann said she has done this while actually moving down the road!

    I know it's not in the service manual but it does work. I tired it myself to see and it cleared all faults I created on my own when I ran the rear tire while on the jack.

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    I called my dealer in Chandler AZ. service writer has never heard of anyone having this problem.

    Called Midwest Performance &Power. lawny was very sympathetic. He checked parts no new ones in stock. Said he would get one as soon as posible, over night shipment. Call when he got it.
    Before that I emailed the Steve that someone mentioned on this forum. He emailed back and forth . He opened up a case number with Midwest Performace.
    They both know my wife and I are 64 and over 1,500 miles away from home. Both stated going to do their best to get me fixed as quick as possible.
    I can not ask for more. I will let you know with follow up post how it all goes down.

    Also had great service on the road from the dealer North Power in Menominee . . So there are very nice people working to make our spyders the one to owen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbwitt View Post
    Discounted the negative battery wire waited a minute reconected and it reset. Now have stopped and restarted several times. It has started ok so far, time will tell. .

    I have a 2014 Rt s with 8,300 miles stoped to refuel went to restart got the dess code tried a bunch a differentimes no go. Got out other key, I am traveling 2,000 miles from home it did not work.
    Kenn
    Yes, The D.E.S.S code will be back, take it to your dealer and get it fixed.

    I have a 2014RTS-SE6, and I had the D.E.S.S. module replaced and the keys reprogramed last month. I had 6,994 miles, when I first got the D.E.S.S key code.


    This month I had the D.E.S.S. key code show up again. ( I stated a thread about this issue" D.E.S.S. Key code AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) Look at the above thread that I started about this issue, BRP needs to get fix this issue real soon.

    Have you been reading/and following the thread that I started?
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    Quote Originally Posted by finless View Post
    Trust... it will be back!

    Your not the first to do this as a temporary fix...
    It's only a temporary fix as there is a problem with some 2014/2015 Spyders with this issue!
    It will be back and I am sorry to tell you this fact.

    Bob
    and it happened to me last month. Also, I have a 2014RTS-SE6, and I started a Thread with the title "D.E.S.S. Code AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!." Deanna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Thanks for this info!
    Didn't Dee mention another roadside repair procedure; something about rapidly switching the bike on and off again a bunch of times?
    (It's better to have lots of arrows in the quiver! )

    Yes, I did mention about turning the bike on and off several times, in my "D.E.S.S. Code AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and DO NOT LET THE SYSTEM SHUT DOWN. Deanna
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 09:08 PM.




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