DESS Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deanna777]

Hi,

I DON"T HAVE ANY NEW INFO ON MY D.E.S.S.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE D.E.S.S. ERROR SINCE 2015.


IF AND WHEN I DO HAVE NEW D.E.S.S INFO. I'LL POST!

Deanna

[PMK]

9-14-2016 8978 miles no issues to report
DESS module 710003595 removed and replaced with 710004916 DESS module under warranty
Ignition switch assembly also replaced under warranty

12-4-2020 I disabled the DESS system with BUDS

[trikermutha]

I changed the Antenna this past winter. So far no issues.

[JonYiong]

I changed the Antenna this past winter. So far no issues.

Hi, I have a 2013 STL. Lately I’m not able to start after pressing the mode button, and I need to wait for about 10secs before I'm then able to fire-up.

Now it doesn’t fire-up after waiting for about 10secs. I have to off/on the ignition then wait about 10secs to fire-up and sometimes have “BAD KEY” appear on screen.

Wonder will it work by changing the DESS antenna?

[trikermutha]

Hi, I have a 2013 STL. Lately I’m not able to start after pressing the mode button, and I need to wait for about 10secs before I'm then able to fire-up.

Now it doesn’t fire-up after waiting for about 10secs. I have to off/on the ignition then wait about 10secs to fire-up and sometimes have “BAD KEY” appear on screen.

Wonder will it work by changing the DESS antenna?

Do not know about your Model, the bulletin posted was for the 14 and 15 MY models. Have you tried another key for starters and check your battery terminals too?

[JonYiong]

Do not know about your Model, the bulletin posted was for the 14 and 15 MY models. Have you tried another key for starters and check your battery terminals too?

Yes I do try the other key, same result.

As for battery terminals, what are the things to look-out for?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Hi, I have a 2013 STL. Lately I’m not able to start after pressing the mode button, and I need to wait for about 10secs before I'm then able to fire-up.

Now it doesn’t fire-up after waiting for about 10secs. I have to off/on the ignition then wait about 10secs to fire-up and sometimes have “BAD KEY” appear on screen.

Wonder will it work by changing the DESS antenna?

Sounds like a bad battery.

[Madison Sully]

I just changed the DESS module this weekend, on my 2014 RT SE6.
It gave me exactly two warnings before it totally refused to start (fortunately, in my garage).
Here's to hoping the new module goes ~48,000 miles and 7 years like that first one did....

[Deanna777]

I just changed the DESS module this weekend, on my 2014 RT SE6.
It gave me exactly two warnings before it totally refused to start (fortunately, in my garage).
Here's to hoping the new module goes ~48,000 miles and 7 years like that first one did....

Madison Sully,

What is the part number of the DESS module you changed this weekend?

I hope you get a lot of miles on your new DESS module.

Deanna

[Madison Sully]

Madison Sully,

What is the part number of the DESS module you changed this weekend?

I hope you get a lot of miles on your new DESS module.

Deanna

Removed: 710004190.
Installed: 710004916.

Thanks.

[PMK]

Removed: 710004190.
Installed: 710004916.

Thanks.

Seems your Spyder either came with or possibly already had a warranty replacement to DESS 71000490.
The 710004190 is a second generation DESS, and not the original part number installed in the 2014. Maybe yours was a later build if the DESS module is original.

I believe we have read here that others too have had failures of the DESS module 710004190, but not as frequent as the first generation modules.

The part number 710004916 is the latest generation DESS module and has an excellent history of no failures that I have heard of.

Seeing another failure of the 710004190 would have me speculate that owners with that DESS module might consider upgrading to the latest generation module or carrying one as a spare to lessen disappointment if traveling and avoid towing fees or shop fees, even availability concerns if and when truly needed.
A second option would be to disable the DESS system via BUDS.

Was the cost of the 710004916 still approximately $125?

[Deanna777]

Seems your Spyder either came with or possibly already had a warranty replacement to DESS 71000490.
The 710004190 is a second generation DESS, and not the original part number installed in the 2014. Maybe yours was a later build if the DESS module is original.

I believe we have read here that others too have had failures of the DESS module 710004190, but not as frequent as the first generation modules.

The part number 710004916 is the latest generation DESS module and has an excellent history of no failures that I have heard of.

Seeing another failure of the 710004190 would have me speculate that owners with that DESS module might consider upgrading to the latest generation module or carrying one as a spare to lessen disappointment if traveling and avoid towing fees or shop fees, even availability concerns if and when truly needed.
A second option would be to disable the DESS system via BUDS.

Was the cost of the 710004916 still approximately $125?

HI PMK,

July 15th 2015 I had the DESS module part number installed ( 710004190). Mileage at time of install was 6,994.

Then I had the DESS module part number installed again( 710004190) and Switch part number( 710004413), mileage of install was @ 8,740.00.

My spyder still has the above DESS and Switch part numbers, and the current mileage is 29,123.
I have not had any DESS errors.

Deanna

[Madison Sully]

Seems your Spyder either came with or possibly already had a warranty replacement to DESS 71000490.
The 710004190 is a second generation DESS, and not the original part number installed in the 2014. Maybe yours was a later build if the DESS module is original.

I believe we have read here that others too have had failures of the DESS module 710004190, but not as frequent as the first generation modules.

The part number 710004916 is the latest generation DESS module and has an excellent history of no failures that I have heard of.

Seeing another failure of the 710004190 would have me speculate that owners with that DESS module might consider upgrading to the latest generation module or carrying one as a spare to lessen disappointment if traveling and avoid towing fees or shop fees, even availability concerns if and when truly needed.
A second option would be to disable the DESS system via BUDS.

Was the cost of the 710004916 still approximately $125?

The DESS I removed had a "Born on" date of 22/03/2014 on it.
I paid ~$155 including tax for the new one, from a local dealer.
It was similar price on Amazon (maybe $5 less).

[Donbmw]

Seems your Spyder either came with or possibly already had a warranty replacement to DESS 71000490.
The 710004190 is a second generation DESS, and not the original part number installed in the 2014. Maybe yours was a later build if the DESS module is original.

I believe we have read here that others too have had failures of the DESS module 710004190, but not as frequent as the first generation modules.

The part number 710004916 is the latest generation DESS module and has an excellent history of no failures that I have heard of.

Seeing another failure of the 710004190 would have me speculate that owners with that DESS module might consider upgrading to the latest generation module or carrying one as a spare to lessen disappointment if traveling and avoid towing fees or shop fees, even availability concerns if and when truly needed.
A second option would be to disable the DESS system via BUDS.

Was the cost of the 710004916 still approximately $125?

You are only able to disable the DESS MODULE on 2014 and newer CANAM,s

[Deanna777]

I just changed the DESS module this weekend, on my 2014 RT SE6.
It gave me exactly two warnings before it totally refused to start (fortunately, in my garage).
Here's to hoping the new module goes ~48,000 miles and 7 years like that first one did....

Did you replace the switch?

Did you replace the Antenna?

Did you reprogram the keys?


Deanna

[Madison Sully]

Did you replace the switch?

Did you replace the Antenna?

Did you reprogram the keys?


Deanna

Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

Just the DESS module.

[Deanna777]

Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

Just the DESS module.

Good luck with the new DESS module.


Deanna

[trikermutha]

You sure it was the module? I replaced the module twice and decided to go with the antenna this time.

[Madison Sully]

You sure it was the module? I replaced the module twice and decided to go with the antenna this time.

Before I replaced the DESS module, both of my keys had DESS ERRORs multiple times over several days. Keys kept, well, in the house while the Spyder sits in the garage.
Anyway, after DESS module replacement, no issues on probably ~10-12 starts. So yeah, pretty sure it was the DESS module.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Any idea when BRP changed to the later DESS module on the production line? My 2014 RT has a build date of 06/2014. The DESS has never given me a moment's fit.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Any idea when BRP changed to the later DESS module on the production line? My 2014 RT has a build date of 06/2014. The DESS has never given me a moment's fit.

14 to 16 some did and most didn't. However if you ever got the screen of death, it was going to fail at some point. Mine did in 2015 and I got the latest DESS module under warranty ( no antennae needed ) .... then the " Joel the Biker " canceled my Module .... so no further issues were possible .... Mike

[PMK]

Any idea when BRP changed to the later DESS module on the production line? My 2014 RT has a build date of 06/2014. The DESS has never given me a moment's fit.

At a guess, yours has the 710003140 DESS module. If Madison Sully could post the build date of his Spyder, it would let you know where yours falls in line. It seems that Madison Sully had the 3140 module from new, and your Spyder being a very late, almost a 2015, makes me think you have the 3140 also.

Our Spyder was kind of an earlier 2014, built in 01/2014 and is #1080. It had the first gen module when new.

[Madison Sully]

At a guess, yours has the 710003140 DESS module. If Madison Sully could post the build date of his Spyder, it would let you know where yours falls in line. It seems that Madison Sully had the 3140 module from new, and your Spyder being a very late, almost a 2015, makes me think you have the 3140 also.

Our Spyder was kind of an earlier 2014, built in 01/2014 and is #1080. It had the first gen module when new.

My spyder VIN sticker has a DATE: 04/2014 noted on it.

[PMK]

My spyder VIN sticker has a DATE: 04/2014 noted on it.

Kind of indicates a basis, granted, in general, that the 3140 series may have been installed as early as April of 2014 on the production line. The latest 916 version may not have madethe production line until things were sorted out, guessing late 2015 models.
One thing known is the 916 version of the DESS module is the latest revision, and has a very good reliability record. You should get good results from upgrading to the latest DESS module.

[Deanna777]

Any idea when BRP changed to the later DESS module on the production line? My 2014 RT has a build date of 06/2014. The DESS has never given me a moment's fit.

I don't know when BRP changed the DESS module on the production line.

My spyder was born on 03/20/2014 @ 17:15:16.

Deanna