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    Ok Today I disabled the DESS on my 2020 F3S. Oh my goodness. That easy... I am now willing to ride again this beautiful Spyder. I have the megatech license for a year.. I'm from Seattle area in Washington state. wink. wink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexf415 View Post
    Ok Today I disabled the DESS on my 2020 F3S. Oh my goodness. That easy... I am now willing to ride again this beautiful Spyder. I have the megatech license for a year.. I'm from Seattle area in Washington state. wink. wink.
    Hello you should start a rental program charge a fee you would soon get your money back i will be your first customer.

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    https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...7&d=1656537098

    Click on the link and it will open up the bulletin

    I am sure nobody wants to go back a million pages to find it
    Last edited by trikermutha; 05-25-2023 at 04:17 PM.

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    I thought I had already posted this but guess not. I need to thank James Thorne from Houston, Tx. for having exorcised the DESS gremlins from my 2014 RT-L when we met up in Las Vegas, NM on Friday, June 23rd. Hoping that is the last I ever see of that worthless piece of technology built in by the "oh so brilliant BRP engineers."

    Those who say " I can't" will always be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruisinTX View Post
    I thought I had already posted this but guess not. I need to thank James Thorne from Houston, Tx. for having exorcised the DESS gremlins from my 2014 RT-L when we met up in Las Vegas, NM on Friday, June 23rd. Hoping that is the last I ever see of that worthless piece of technology built in by the "oh so brilliant BRP engineers."
    crusinTX,

    Thanks for posting!

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    Got my DESS deactivated today one problem i won't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helton61 View Post
    Got my DESS deactivated today one problem i won't have.
    helton61,

    What year is your spyder?

    What is your spyder model?
    Deanna




    Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue

    Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
    Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
    Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
    Gremlin Bell
    Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
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    SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
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    Ultimate F3 Floorboards
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    Sway Bar with Links
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    A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
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    Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna777 View Post
    helton61,

    What year is your spyder?

    What is your spyder model?
    Deanna
    16 spyder RTL

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    Quote Originally Posted by helton61 View Post
    Got my DESS deactivated today one problem i won't have.
    Please tell everyone here who did it ...... EVERYONE wants to know this .... it gets asked a lot here .....Thanks .... Mike

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    Wow, 44 pages of this. DESS error twice on my nearly new 2022 F3s.
    Last edited by Vincef329; 07-13-2023 at 06:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincef329 View Post
    Wow, 44 pages of this. DESS error twice on my nearly new 2022 F3s...
    Hopefully " BRP Cares " doesn't read Your post. .... Dis-abling DESS isn't something BRP would tolerate - -JMHO ..... Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Hopefully " BRP Cares " doesn't read Your post. .... Dis-abling DESS isn't something BRP would tolerate - -JMHO ..... Mike
    If they had half a brain they would do something different! Oh wait, that would mean someone won't make any money, silly me what was I thinking!
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    So this is a safety issue, like not being able to start and move your vehicle out of the way of traffic issues, lightning storms , etc. This needs many people to open a NHTSA case as safety issue so that Can Am is forced to not only replace but replace the system with something that actually works , first time every time. This should include the antenna and /or keylock as they are integral on the later spyders like my 2019 RTL.
    If 1000 people do this NHSTA will be forced to open an investigation. BOMBARD them people !!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCLVR View Post
    Sso this is a safety issue, like not being able to start and move your vehicle out of the way of traffic issues, lightning storms , etc. This needs many people to open a NHTSA case as safety issue so that Can Am is forced to not only replace but replace the system with something that actually works , first time every time. This should include the antenna and /or keylock as they are integral on the later spyders like my 2019 RTL.
    If 1000 people do this NHSTA will be forced to open an investigation. BOMBARD them people !!!!!!!
    BRP HAD a DESS system that worked fine ...... PRIOR TO 2014!!!! .... then some idiot engineer, tried to fix it even tho it wasn't BROKE .... Mike PS read post # 1082 above .....
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 07-17-2023 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Color & ' 's ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCLVR View Post
    Sso this is a safety issue, like not being able to start and move your vehicle out of the way of traffic issues, lightning storms , etc. This needs many people to open a NHTSA case as safety issue so that Can Am is forced to not only replace but replace the system with something that actually works , first time every time. This should include the antenna and /or keylock as they are integral on the later spyders like my 2019 RTL.
    If 1000 people do this NHSTA will be forced to open an investigation. BOMBARD them people !!!!!!!
    WRCLVR,


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    Has anyone had any DESS errors/or problems lately on the new spyder models (2020 +)?

    Deanna
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 09:35 PM.




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    Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
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    Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
    Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
    SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
    Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
    Ultimate F3 Floorboards
    Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
    Sway Bar with Links
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    Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
    Show chrome Trunk Shock


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna777 View Post
    Has anyone had any DESS errors/ or problems lately on the new spyder models (2020 +)?

    Deanna
    Read post #1057 ..... Mike
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 09:35 PM.

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    2014 Starting to get the error on mine now. Out of warranty. Anyone have an idea what the cost is to fix this? I am sure my local dealer here in GA will not disable it.


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    This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!! Good job girl, I think it's the all-time longest right up with, what did you do to your Spyder today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    2014 Starting to get the error on mine now. Out of warranty. Anyone have an idea what the cost is to fix this? I am sure my local dealer here in GA will not disable it.
    Go back to the first post and read down through them one more time. Then find some one that has BUDS and get it unhooked! Good luck my friend!! Technology you got to love it, and hate it at the same time.
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 08-23-2023 at 09:05 AM. Reason: Merged immediately consecutive posts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!! Good job girl, I think it's the all-time longest right up with, what did you do to your Spyder today!



    Go back to the first post and read down through them one more time. Then find some one that has BUDS and get it unhooked! Good luck my friend!! Technology you got to love it, and hate it at the same time.
    I have read the entire thread. It has been a long morning, lol. More info, this has been happening for a bit off and on. I can get by it, sometimes quickly, sometimes not (turning key on/off, waiting, etc). Does anyone know someone in the Atlanta area that can turn it off? If you don't want to post it, PM me. Thanks.
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 08-23-2023 at 12:26 PM. Reason: post.... :-/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!! Good job girl, I think it's the all-time longest right up with, what did you do to your Spyder today!



    Go back to the first post and read down through them one more time. Then find some one that has BUDS and get it unhooked! Good luck my friend!! Technology you got to love it, and hate it at the same time.
    Mikey,

    Yes, this thread has a lot of excellent info. Thank You!!! Yes, this thread is very long. Thanks
    Good luck!

    Deanna




    Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue

    Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
    Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
    Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
    Gremlin Bell
    Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
    Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
    SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
    Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
    Ultimate F3 Floorboards
    Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
    Sway Bar with Links
    Rolo Laser Alignment
    Half Cover
    A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
    Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
    Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
    Show chrome Trunk Shock


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    The DESS error was covered by an SB!
    Sorry no longer remember number - look it up.
    An SB should mean (it is COVERED) by BRP and should not need to worry about cost.
    So "maybe" to save $$$ the Dealership will just disable via BUDs; then again maybe not.
    But the cost should be on BRP, not you.
    Check it out.

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    RECORD_ID: 2917249

    Bulletin Number: A104494

    Replacement Service Bulletin Number: N/A

    NHTSA Item Number: 10185868

    Date Posted: 11-05-2015

    Component Name: 110000 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

    Make: CAN-AM

    Model: SPYDER RT

    Year: 2014

    Date Added: 01-25-2021

    Summary: Intermittently, the ignition key may not be recognized causing the unit not to start.

    Found that. So if it has a SB, it is covered, even though it out of warranty??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    RECORD_ID: 2917249

    Bulletin Number: A104494

    Replacement Service Bulletin Number: N/A

    NHTSA Item Number: 10185868

    Date Posted: 11-05-2015

    Component Name: 110000 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

    Make: CAN-AM

    Model: SPYDER RT

    Year: 2014

    Date Added: 01-25-2021

    Summary: Intermittently, the ignition key may not be recognized causing the unit not to start.

    Found that. So if it has a SB, it is covered, even though it out of warranty??
    Since you are on the "DESS" thread, you think you have a DESS Failure issue ..... (ie. orange screen of Death). Contact your Dealer and see if they know about the SB and IF they will honor it? ..... As far as cancelling it, I seriously doubt the dealer will or even can do that ..... good news .... I'm pretty sure the "Netzley boys" will be selling at "Maggie Valley" in the beginning of Oct. (check the dates posted on the Home page) .... they now have the capability to CANCEL the DESS module. I would contact them and ask and or set up an appointment .... good luck .... Mike .... I just discovered that BAJARON (in Tenn.) can cancel DESS also ..... M
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 09-08-2023 at 08:16 AM. Reason: Caps; ' 's; colours... ;-)

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    Thanks BLUEKNIGHT911!! Will see about going to MV!!! Have not been to a Spyder function in some time!!
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