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01-28-2018, 06:51 PM
#651
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by A1A
Mike, thank you for the info my friend. Yes I read about half the DESS Thread and my eyes were starting to turn red and were burning. I just had to stop reading it. I'm still under warranty so the Dealer should address this issue for me. The display I had on the speedo said DESS and below that it showed the engine blinking, but no key image at all.
Cheers
Yes, the dealer should take care of the issue for you, it is covered "UNDER WARRANTY". Deanna
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:00 PM.
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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01-28-2018, 06:53 PM
#652
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by PaladinLV
The only for sure way to fix it, is replacement of BOTH the DESS module AND you ignition switch (which will also get you a new key).
Good Luck!
AJ
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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01-28-2018, 07:01 PM
#653
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by A1A
Well I got the DESS check engine on the speedo today 1-27-17. I turned the switch off and on 3 or 4 times and got it to start. I have 18,997 miles on my 2014 RTL-SE6 spyder and this is the first DESS issue for me. I guess I'll keep riding it for a while and see if it happens again.
I had the (DESS) replaced twice (both times under Manufactures Warranty). The 2nd time they replaced the DESS module, ignition switch, keys reprogramed, new lock on the trunk. The above was replaced in Aug. 2014. Since then, I have not had the DESS code show up, and I now have 22,060 miles on the Spyder.
Keep us posted!
Deanna
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:01 PM.
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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01-28-2018, 07:07 PM
#654
Originally Posted by rustynail51
can hooking power supply cords such as heated clothing cords or trailer wiring harness directly to the battery give a d.e.s.s. code when neither is in use. The dealership asked these questions when trying to figure out why i continue to get the code after they replaced the d.e.s.s. module.
I run heated clothing and have no issues.
When mine acted up the module was replaced and so far no more DESS messages.
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01-28-2018, 07:08 PM
#655
Originally Posted by Deanna777
[SIZE=2] Yes, the dealer should take care of the issue for you, it is covered "UNDER WARRANTY". Deanna
Maybe out of warranty unless it was extended??
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:02 PM.
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01-28-2018, 07:31 PM
#656
Very Active Member
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:04 PM.
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01-29-2018, 09:57 AM
#657
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by trikermutha
Maybe out of warranty unless it was extended??
It is Covered under the "Extended Warranty"( B.E.S.T). Ask your dealership.
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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01-29-2018, 10:08 AM
#658
Very Active Member
We prefer the nuclear option. Just turn DESS OFF and be done with it. Useless system that only serves to keep the owner from riding. Does not deter theft by any knowledgeable vehicle theft team. Its easily bypassed without the key present.
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01-30-2018, 06:27 AM
#659
Jcthorne... how do you bypass? Mine is 2016 F3S SE6
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:04 PM.
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01-30-2018, 07:55 AM
#660
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Sweetwater
Jcthorne... how do you bypass? Mine is 2016 F3S SE6
Requires MegaTech version of BUDS. Several shops around the country offer it, including ours. Most dealers do not opt for the upgraded version that has access to the security system.
In BUDS, its a simple toggle of a setting.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:05 PM.
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01-31-2018, 07:43 PM
#661
Very Active Member
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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02-06-2018, 10:40 PM
#662
Well I have an appointment to take my Spyder into the Dealer 2-9-18. So will see how everything goes. I have to get it fixed because I don't want to get stranded out some where. Will let you know how it turns out.
Cheers
2014 RTL-SE6 Cognac (Current Love)
2012 RTS-SE5 Pure Magnesium Metallic (Pre Loved)
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02-07-2018, 04:58 AM
#663
SpyderLovers Ambassador
Thank You All. I had considered buying a used 2014, (in year 2016). I am now VERY glad that I went with a NEW 2016 RTL. PS: I did my homework on 'SPYDERLOVERS' Forum.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:06 PM.
ENJOY YOUR LIFE WITH A SPYDER
Ryde with a Friend and be Safe
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02-13-2018, 01:02 PM
#664
Well I picked up my Spyder this morning from the Dealer 2-13-18. Here is the Dealer comments as written on the work order. No codes stored in (BUDS). But we and BRP have seen this before, BRPS recommendation is to change out the DESS MODULE. If it comes back, then replace the DESS ANTENNA. So the DESS MODULE was replaced, and both my keys were reprogrammed. This was accomplished under extended warranty and with no charges to me. I'm a happy camper and hope that this takes care of my DESS issue.
Cheers
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:07 PM.
2014 RTL-SE6 Cognac (Current Love)
2012 RTS-SE5 Pure Magnesium Metallic (Pre Loved)
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02-13-2018, 07:36 PM
#665
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by A1A
Well I picked up my Spyder this morning from the Dealer 2-13-18. Here is the Dealer comments as written on the work order. No codes stored in (BUDS). But we and BRP have seen this before, BRPS recommendation is to change out the DESS MODULE. If it comes back, then replace the DESS ANTENNA. So the DESS MODULE was replaced, and both my keys were reprogrammed. This was accomplished under extended warranty and with no charges to me. I'm a happy camper and hope that this takes care of my DESS issue.
Cheers
The 2nd time my dealership replaced the DESS MODULE, Ignition Switch, Reprogramed the Keys, Changed the trunk lock/and gave me a new trailer lock (On Aug. 28, 2015). The above work was done @ 8,740 miles, and since then I have not had the DESS Key code show up on the screen. My current mileage is 22,000. Also, I have a 2014RTS-SE6.
The first time (on July 14,2015) my dealership replaced only the DESS MODULE.
I hope you don't get the DESS issue. Good Luck!
Deanna
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:09 PM.
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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02-13-2018, 07:48 PM
#666
I am guessing go with the cheaper repair first then the harder more expensive repair next if the module doesn't work out.
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02-14-2018, 12:12 AM
#667
Originally Posted by Deanna777
The 2nd time my dealership replaced the DESS MODULE, Ignition Switch, Reprogramed the Keys, Changed the trunk lock/and gave me a new trailer lock (On Aug. 28, 2015). The above work was done @ 8,740 miles, and since then I have not had the DESS Key code show up on the screen. My current mileage is 22,000. Also, I have a 2014RTS-SE6.
The first time (on July 14,2015) my dealership replaced only the DESS MODULE.
I hope you don't get the DESS issue. Good Luck!
Deanna
Thanks Deanna, I had 18,803 miles on mine when the DESS MODULE was replaced. I also hope you do not get another DESS issue as well.
Cheers
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:09 PM.
2014 RTL-SE6 Cognac (Current Love)
2012 RTS-SE5 Pure Magnesium Metallic (Pre Loved)
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02-15-2018, 08:29 AM
#668
Very Active Member
anyone close to nw illinois that can deactivate.?-- irv toms
2015 rts-white pearl- mods- '16 F3 fat 6 chrome wheels,
and some little stuff. setback utopia backrest, baja ron
sway bar, oem adj. air deflectors, marlin gps compass,
lamonster fbb foot pegs[modified brackets], lamonts
vibration damper, rock guard, and side case stiffener kit,
. brp comfort seat. , fomozas and
altimax, magic mirror mts, and wide mirrors.
[joyce & irvin toms]
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02-15-2018, 11:26 AM
#669
Very Active Member
That DESS "antenna" they are speaking of is part of the ignition switch on a 2014. So the ignition switch is what they will replace.
AJ
Originally Posted by A1A
Well I picked up my Spyder this morning from the Dealer 2-13-18. Here is the Dealer comments as written on the work order. No codes stored in (BUDS). But we and BRP have seen this before, BRPS recommendation is to change out the DESS MODULE. If it comes back , then replace the DESS ANTENNA. So the DESS MODULE was replaced and both my keys were reprogrammed. This was accomplished under extended warranty and with no charges to me. I'm a happy camper and hope that this takes care of my DESS issue.
Cheers
2014 RT-S
Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna
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02-15-2018, 06:55 PM
#670
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by A1A
Thanks Deanna, I had 18,803 miles on mine when the DESS MODULE was replaced. I also hope you do not get another DESS issue as well.
Cheers
A1A, I hope I don't get another DESS issue either. If I do I'll post on this Thread ( which I started in July of 2015), If I do I know it is covered under the B.E.S.T Warranty.
Good Luck!
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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02-15-2018, 07:02 PM
#671
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by PaladinLV
That DESS "antenna" they are speaking of is part of the ignition switch on a 2014. So the ignition switch is what they will replace.
AJ
AJ, Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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03-22-2018, 09:00 PM
#672
Very Active Member
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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05-28-2018, 07:34 PM
#673
Very Active Member
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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05-28-2018, 08:10 PM
#674
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by A1A
Well I picked up my Spyder this morning from the Dealer 2-13-18. Here is the Dealer comments as written on the work order. No codes stored in (BUDS). But we and BRP have seen this before, BRPS recommendation is to change out the DESS MODULE. If it comes back , then replace the DESS ANTENNA. So the DESS MODULE was replaced and both my keys were reprogrammed. This was accomplished under extended warranty and with no charges to me. I'm a happy camper and hope that this takes care of my DESS issue.
Cheers
I've had my DESS module replaced .... by real BRP Tech's ...... they told me the keys have nothing to do with the DESS module ..... and they didn't do mine .......... So either your dealer isn't as up on this as they think they are, or they just did it anyway for some unknown reason ...... Mike
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 07:11 PM.
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05-29-2018, 08:22 PM
#675
I placed an order today for a DESS Module #710004916 with Cheap Motorcycle Parts. I am to have it next week sometime. I will switch it out myself. I have a 2015 Spyder RT and have had it little over 10 months and have put over 10,000 miles on it. It now has 20,700 miles on it. I have had DESS Key orange screen about 4 times, once last September and about two weeks ago and all I have ever had to do is remove the key and put it back. I was not much worried about it until BLUEKNIGHT911 tells me I am going to be stranded. I sure hope this is all I need. I only have one key so as soon as I get the module changed I have a blank key and will have it cut and someone program it for me.
2021 RT Limited
Asphalt Grey
Lamonster RT phone mount
Sena SMH-10
Lamonster Belt Tensioner w/ larger roller
Spyderpops Missing Belt Guard
Garmin's GPS
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