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    Default Is there a place called Hell?

    There are many religions that claim there is, and if you don't attend there church and give them money you are going straight there after you die. Well, I don't trust religions. They are made up of humans who can have agendas other than salvation. So here is my take...

    From what I have observed, Hell can be any place. It depends on each individuals circumstances and perceptions. I would say most people and animals live in intolerable conditions on this planet. We who live good lives are the exception. So billions of people suffer every day, all day and all night long. Is that not the definition of Hell?

    I was watching a program where a camera followed a guy who fishes along the roaring rapids in South America to feed his family. One slip on the slippery rocks and he is dead. He is out there, rain or shine eking out a meager existence. He has been doing this much of his life, and he is my age. We where born at around the same time, but our two lives are completely opposite by a seemingly random act of birth. So why am I more fortunate than he is?
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    i found that religion is the one topic that should be taboo, too many beliefs
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    He may perceive himself to be more fortunate than you. Some people don't need a lot of money or items to feel good about themselves. Did he say he was less fortunate than others who live in the lap of luxury, whatever that may be? Or, are you just making an assumption that he'd be better off living like you?
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    Watch "Life Below Zero" subsistence living can be tough but rewarding. Having all we do can be depressing playing the consumer keep up with the Joneses game. The Inuit enjoy their lives and lament the destruction we have brought to them.
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    Post fast. I am guessing the life of this thread will be short.


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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Post fast. I am guessing the life of this thread will be short.


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    Why do you say that? I don't think it's a religious thread; JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    Why do you say that? I don't think it's a religious thread; JMO.
    Time will tell. It is not religious yet. I have a feeling it will be.

    My contribution:

    There is a Hell, Michigan and there is a Hell, Norway. Not sure if there are others, but guess the list can be expanded.

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    Is there a Hell?
    Of course there is; and my Missus has given me so much of over the years, that you can now call me
    "Beelzebub"!

    I now own the entire thing!
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    Hi Rogue Hawk,

    Re: So why am I more fortunate than he is?

    I have had the advantage of travelling in Europe ( including eastern Europe ), Asia, South America, a good chunk of North America & a lot of places in between.

    We are very fortunate. It is nothing more than the luck of where we were born.

    Most Americans have little knowledge ( and this really is 2015 ) of just how lots people on this old planet live.

    Some of the worst that I have ever seen are the slums of Brazil; not nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Time will tell. It is not religious yet. I have a feeling it will be.

    My contribution:

    There is a Hell, Michigan and there is a Hell, Norway. Not sure if there are others, but guess the list can be expanded.
    You can breath a sigh of relief, I am not going to say a thing on this subject because it would definitely get out of control.

    I have rode to hell and back.

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    Default Is there a place called Hell?

    Why yes there are places called Hell!






    Hell, California, U.S
    Hell, Michigan, U.S.
    Hell, Grand Cayman, the Cayman Islands
    Hell, Norway, a village in Stjørdal
    Hell Station, a railway station at Hell, Norway
    Hell Creek, a place in Montana notable for Cretaceous dinosaur fossils

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi Rogue Hawk,

    Re: So why am I more fortunate than he is?

    I have had the advantage of travelling in Europe ( including eastern Europe ), Asia, South America, a good chunk of North America & a lot of places in between.

    We are very fortunate. It is nothing more than the luck of where we were born.

    Most Americans have little knowledge ( and this really is 2015 ) of just how lots people on this old planet live.

    Some of the worst that I have ever seen are the slums of Brazil; not nice.

    Jerry Baumchen
    Olongapo Philippines I was there during Marshall Law in the early 70's. Cops carried UZI's and shot pick pockets down on the main street. Kids dived in the sewage canal for pesos that were tossed to them. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than smart. We ARE very lucky and take a lot for granted and yet we still have politicians that want to run our lives by their morals . It is a slippery slope we rest on.
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    i live & pay taxes to nyc & nassau county, i work in mineola. come visit me in hell if you dare
    p.s. hell freezes over every jan. & feb.

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    Default All relative!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Hawk View Post
    There are many religions that claim there is, and if you don't attend there church and give them money you are going straight there after you die. Well, I don't trust religions. They are made up of humans who can have agendas other than salvation. So here is my take...

    From what I have observed, Hell can be any place. It depends on each individuals circumstances and perceptions. I would say most people and animals live in intolerable conditions on this planet. We who live good lives are the exception. So billions of people suffer every day, all day and all night long. Is that not the definition of Hell?

    I was watching a program where a camera followed a guy who fishes along the roaring rapids in South America to feed his family. One slip on the slippery rocks and he is dead. He is out there, rain or shine eking out a meager existence. He has been doing this much of his life, and he is my age. We where born at around the same time, but our two lives are completely opposite by a seemingly random act of birth. So why am I more fortunate than he is?
    He really may be fortunate than you, and may end up living longer as a result of a more active life style, healthier diet, and less stressful lifestyle!
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    Being gifted of being able to look into the future I see this coming in couple of years!

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    I told my doctor a couple of years ago that every person in the food and medical industries who is knowledgeable about diet and nutrition shares a common characteristic with every teacher of every religion in the world. There isn't a single one of them who has a lock on the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    He may perceive himself to be more fortunate than you. Some people don't need a lot of money or items to feel good about themselves. Did he say he was less fortunate than others who live in the lap of luxury, whatever that may be? Or, are you just making an assumption that he'd be better off living like you?

    That is why I added 'perceptions' to what can be considered a personal Hell. He may compare himself to the guy in the other village who has leprosy and considers himself blessed. It is true that material items do not mean happiness. For me, if I had his life, it would be Hell because I have professional ambitions in engineering and his life would severely limit that.
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    Religion and politics, 2 very bad topics for discussion.

    I believe in judgement.

    That guy is probably better off then u or i.
    The simpler your life the better.

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    Default Ooooo...!!

    Not going there. Been to several of the places mentioned by kyspyder and they are quite nice...Hell is what you make it, and guilt is what feeds it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    He may perceive himself to be more fortunate than you. Some people don't need a lot of money or items to feel good about themselves. Did he say he was less fortunate than others who live in the lap of luxury, whatever that may be? Or, are you just making an assumption that he'd be better off living like you?
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    Here you go - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/hell.html
    I like Mark Twain and Aldous Huxley's views... Enjoy.

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    Typed hell into Google Maps and it came up with only one listing..........

    Hell
    Hell Rd
    West Bay
    Cayman Islands

    So I guess that's it. Depending on your point of view.
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    I'm pretty sure that I took this picture on my first trip to Hell.
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