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    I just purchased a 2015 RT Limited that is factory bundled with a Garmin 590lm. The 590 has mp3 play capability, but no one at dealer seems to know if it is wired to play the mp3 audio through the radio. Seems like a waste no to. Anyone out there know what is required if possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spstewart View Post
    I just purchased a 2015 RT Limited that is factory bundled with a Garmin 590lm. The 590 has mp3 play capability, but no one at dealer seems to know if it is wired to play the mp3 audio through the radio. Seems like a waste no to. Anyone out there know what is required if possible?
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    The previous version of GPS that BRP used was the Garmin Zumo 660. It also was capable of playing mp3 files. So from my experience and others I can tell you it won't work well. Not because of the GPS but because of the radio and how it is hooked up. The GPS is connected to a high priority input that overrides everything else and is not a selectable source. So it will try and go back to the selected source during quiet parts of the music. It will sound like it is cutting out. Also for some reason the radio will output the sound from the GPS as mono even though the output from the GPS is stereo. It's not even mono where the 2 channels are combined but 1 channel is thrown away, so it sounds like crap.

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    Look on page 11 of the Zumo 590 Owner's Manual. It addresses playing the MP3 media player only through a Bluetooth headset when the music can be played in good stereo quality. Combine that with what billybovine says and it looks like the radio is out. FWIW, my 590's MP3 player works fine through my Sena SMH10 headset. I personally could not see attempting to play even the radio through anything but a headset because of engine and wind noise plus being half deaf to begin with. YMMV.
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    [QUOTE=billybovine;1014559...The GPS is connected to a high priority input that overrides everything else and is not a selectable source. So it will try and go back to the selected source during quiet parts of the music...[/QUOTE]

    On my 2013 if I select AUX when I am playing music from my GPS it stops the music playback when direction instructions come on, then goes right back to playing music. While not stereo, it works for me. Even with my bad hearing I can hear the music through the speakers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Ghost View Post
    On my 2013 if I select AUX when I am playing music from my GPS it stops the music playback when direction instructions come on, then goes right back to playing music. While not stereo, it works for me. Even with my bad hearing I can hear the music through the speakers.
    Something's fishy somewhere. I just tried playing my tablet, which I use for GPS, through the GPS audio input. Even with the iPod unplugged from the connector in the trunk the GPS input is not recognized when I select AUX in the audio screen. You must just be getting the audio from the GPS mp3 through the GPS input and the GPS itself is doing the override for travel instructions. The override is not being done in the audio system. It's in override mode all the time. Having AUX selected in the audio system has no affect at all. You could have FM selected and you'll still hear the GPS mp3 player.

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    For AUX to work the device has to be plugged into the MP3 plug in the trunk. If your GPS is showing and controllable on the AUX screen, then someone wired it to the MP3 connector (yes it's possible) instead of the mono audio GPS input line to the radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finless View Post
    For AUX to work the device has to be plugged into the MP3 plug in the trunk. If your GPS is showing and controllable on the AUX screen, then someone wired it to the MP3 connector (yes it's possible) instead of the mono audio GPS input line to the radio.

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    On my 2010 RT, I ran a stereo line from my Zumo 550 output jack to the AUX plug in the rear trunk. Since the Zumo 550 has GPS, MP3 & XM radio, that pretty well covers all I want to hear. My BRP CB overrides the AUX input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finless View Post
    For AUX to work the device has to be plugged into the MP3 plug in the trunk. If your GPS is showing and controllable on the AUX screen, then someone wired it to the MP3 connector (yes it's possible) instead of the mono audio GPS input line to the radio.

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    That doesn't square with the wiring diagram for the 2013 RT. You will notice that the GPS is wired to three AUX lines, the AUX lines to the right of the GPS in the screenshot are from the IPOD hookup. All are going into the radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Ghost View Post
    That doesn't square with the wiring diagram for the 2013 RT. You will notice that the GPS is wired to three AUX lines, the AUX lines to the right of the GPS in the screenshot are from the IPOD hookup. All are going into the radio.
    The AUX you are looking at is the identification of a connector, not an absolute indication of what radio function it is related to. Of the five wires coming from the GPS three go through a standard stereo mini-plug which is labeled AUX1. The other two go to a 2 pin power connector, GPS2. The five wires from those two connectors plug into connector GPS1 which is the end of the GPS harness that plugs into the radio. The iPod connects through connector AUX.

    Because of the label AUX1, and because of what you wrote, I thought maybe the radio will sense when a regular audio signal is fed through AUX1 and connect to it when the radio is in AUX mode. I went out my Spyder and tried it out. AUX mode on the radio does not pick up the audio from the GPS input.

    The wiring diagram does not identify which three of the seven AUX wires for the iPod are the audio signal wires. The other four are iPod control signal wires. The radio detects if all seven are being used, or only 3. That determines if the radio displays IPOD or AUX on the audio screen.
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    When I first got my Spyder the GPS would not play through the radio at all, salesman told me that I had to have bluetooth to get audio from the GPS. I contacted BRP and got a brochure from them on the entertainment system to definately prove that the GPS would play through the radio which led to them removing the panel and connecting the GPS to the mini connector as it should have been all along. My GPS plays when I am in AUX mode. My GPS is hooked up to the proper connector, not the MP3 connector.

    I have dealt with wiring diagrams for quite awhile. I have never seen a connector labelled as AUX that wasn't connected to an auxiliary function. Maybe the system on your bike is not connected properly.


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    At 3 minutes 20 seconds in my GPS video you will see where I tested the GPS input line.

    As Waswinger said that aux label in your diagram is the connector. Trust me that the GPS input runs to a different set of radio input lines than the MP3/AUX trunk connector. And it is a mono input not stereo like the MP3/AUX connector.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Ghost View Post
    When I first got my Spyder the GPS would not play through the radio at all, salesman told me that I had to have bluetooth to get audio from the GPS. I contacted BRP and got a brochure from them on the entertainment system to definately prove that the GPS would play through the radio which led to them removing the panel and connecting the GPS to the mini connector as it should have been all along. My GPS plays when I am in AUX mode. My GPS is hooked up to the proper connector, not the MP3 connector.

    I have dealt with wiring diagrams for quite awhile. I have never seen a connector labelled as AUX that wasn't connected to an auxiliary function. Maybe the system on your bike is not connected properly.
    Download this file. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9z...ew?usp=sharing

    Play it on your computer first so you know what it is suppose to sound like. Then copy it to your GPS and play it there.

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    The main point in the discussion was whether or not the GPS will play music in the aux mode. Mine has done that ever since it was hooked up properly. Seems to me that is a better setup than trying to play music from the GPS through either the AM or FM modes. I understand that playing it through Bluetooth would be true stereo, but I prefer to keep that source open for communication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Ghost View Post
    I understand that playing it through Bluetooth would be true stereo, but I prefer to keep that source open for communication.
    You also get true stereo if you play it through the iPod connector.

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    "On my 2010 RT, I ran a stereo line from my Zumo 550 output jack to the AUX plug in the rear trunk. Since the Zumo 550 has GPS, MP3 & XM radio, that pretty well covers all I want to hear. My BRP CB overrides the AUX input."

    how did you run the line? did you drill hole in rear trunk?

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    Yes the 590 will play music no it won't be in stereo go in the menu and scroll up to mp3 and Boom you got music .. oh sometimes the handle bar controls will not turn the volume down but it does work.

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    Bike should have came with a cable, like I pod cable.plug it into the port in the back trunk.

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    I removed the 660 and replaced it with a 665. The 665 is capable of XM, traffic and WX with a XM 40 antennae. The 660 is not. I interchanged only the faceplate on the cradles and plugged the XM 40 into the entertainment harness about the middle right of the gas tank on 2014 RTL. I use a Sena 10 bluetooth headset.

    XM, is stereo and works great from the 665. With XM or radio and bluetooth off I get XM through the speakers. It is prioritized. XM off of course I get radio, FM or AM. I often turn off bluetooth headset and get XM through the speakers from the 665. "I don't know all I understand about this and that's OK with me". Go figure.

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    I also have a 550 on a BMW and it will not play stereo same as 590. I use molded ear plugs to listen to XM on this with a XM 40 antennae.

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