Went to Mobile 1

[Roadster Renovations]

Wow, I cannot believe the difference! Went from BRP blended to Mobile 1 4T full synthetic and I immediately noticed a difference. The engine runs quieter and you can barely feel it shift. The old oil has 5k on it and will be sent in for analysis. Let's see if the shearing had ceased like the claims....I'll report back!

[JayBros]

I just sent my first sample of Mobil 1 4T for analysis with 2,000 miles on it. I intend to send samples at 2K intervals at least through 6K to observe the stabilization of viscosity shear. I agree too that the shifting is noticeably smoother than with the BRP synthetic blend. It also will be interesting to see if the smooth shifting continues as the oil accumulates mileage.

[Chupaca]

Be interesting to see both your findings. Should keep a record, a graph, a chart for all those oil related questions put it up next to the one that should be made for tires. Ok tires I don't care about but the oil I do....

[gypsy_100]

I used Mobil 1 a lot in my 100K Gold Wing and my V-Strom. Always liked it. Would have used it in my 2011 RT if it had a JASO MA-2 rating instead of MA-1. Since the v-twins occasionally had clutch slipping problems. Maybe for the 1330's it will be just fine. I had been using Amsoil JASO MA-2 in the 2011 and now use it in the '14 1330. Let us know if you detect any trace of clutch slippage and the analysis results. Will be interesting. Thanks.

[PW2013STL]

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

[Bob Denman]

Since my bike is just about due for some fresh "dinosaur squeezins'"; I'm waiting patiently to hear what comes back from the labs!

[gypsy_100]

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

Just as another point of reference, I had 8100 miles on my 2011 RT during an Alaska trip. Amsoil 10-40 and it came back from the lab in the high 30's for viscosity -- 12.06 cSt@100C. TBN was good, too, at 6.1.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

Interesting.....From this it appears the BRP --- Full Syn is NO BETTER than their Blended ........I"ve been using Rotella T-6 and about to have it tested ( 5000 miles ).....I'll post results when they come back.....Mike

[opiewhan]

Wow, I cannot believe the difference! Went from BRP blended to Mobile 1 4T full synthetic and I immediately noticed a difference. The engine runs quieter and you can barely feel it shift. The old oil has 5k on it and will be sent in for analysis. Let's see if the shearing had ceased like the claims....I'll report back!

Just did switch over to Mobil 1 4 stroke 10/40..Engine runs smooth and tranny is very quite..Thinking its also easier to find should you be out in BFE.. price BRP 12.99 qt. Mobil 1 $9.67 qt..

[MikeT]

Just did switch over to Mobil 1 4 stroke 10/40.

Is this their Motorcycle Oil???????????

[JayBros]

Yes, we're talking about Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 four stroke motorcycle oil.

[MikeT]

Just did switch over to Mobil 1 4 stroke 10/40..price Mobil 1 $9.67 qt..

I was "thrown off" by the low price for the 4T. Who's selling it @that price???? The lowest I've seen it @is $10.99/qt. Maybe regional price differences.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I was "thrown off" by the low price for the 4T. Who's selling it @that price???? The lowest I've seen it @is $10.99/qt. Maybe regional price differences.

Check Walmart.......You may have to order it on-line and have it sent to the store for pick-up......shipping is free.......Mike

[azcpl85711]

I was contemplating between Mobil 1 and Amsoil, since I run Mobil 1 in all my vehicles and past motorcycle with excellent results I stayed with it.

[ulflyer]

In a follow on to Doc's #60 post above about viscosity, for those reading this that might not know what the viscosity numbers mean that he got from his lab tests, here is a chart that you look them up on:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/

The chart shows that oil viscosity tested in the 8 to 9.5 range is a low to high 20W.

I've been testing nearly every oil change on my previous '11 RT and now on the '14 RT and they both test out about the same depending on the oil used. My tests show that most good synthetic oils hold up very well from 3-4000K miles, at that point being in the 30W range.

I've decided that from now on, I'm going to set my change level at 4500 to 5000 miles with filters every other time.

I don't contest what BRP Steve says about running oil to 9300miles but I'm just not comfortable with that, knowing that the oil will be down in the low range of 20W or so. However, most all new cars are now running a 0W-20, and some are going to even thinner oil in the near future. The question is, can the 1330 motor last for thousands of miles running on thin oil? Maybe BRP knows and perhaps that was implied by BRP Steve saying it was safe to run the long miles. I don't know that and will do two changes instead of one. I do my own so the cost is not an issue for me.

Not touting any one oil as I don't know yet how Mobil 1 will test out for me, but Amsoil and Valvoline has tested very well. Valvoline is now $8.69 at Walmart in my area with Mobil1 just under $10.

Pretty hard to beat BajaRons package deals for Amsoil. I get it at a discount and can't beat his prices. I suspect he snitches it off the loading dock somewhere! LOL...kidding Ron.

BTW, I'm running Mobil 1 for the first time with nearly 5K on it now and will be testing it shortly. Willl report here what I find.
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[Roadster Renovations]

Just did switch over to Mobil 1 4 stroke 10/40..Engine runs smooth and tranny is very quite..Thinking its also easier to find should you be out in BFE.. price BRP 12.99 qt. Mobil 1 $9.67 qt..

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...hmentid=112789

Hope you put this in!

[MikeT]

Just did switch over to Mobil 1 4 stroke 10/40..Engine runs smooth and tranny is very quite..Thinking its also easier to find should you be out in BFE.. price BRP 12.99 qt. Mobil 1 $9.67 qt..

Mike(blueknight) posted yesterday that WalMart has Valvoline Full Synthetic 4T 10W-40 Motorcycle Oil @$35.00/6pack($5.83/qt) +tax. Shipping either to your house or your closest WalMart is FREE. I decided this was too good a deal to pass up, especially when my servicing dealer was cool with it. I'll be joining the Full Syn 10W-40 oil club @my first service at the end of September.

[Dubliner]

I wonder why they suggest a semi synthetic? Semisynthetic oils are not 50%synthetic, they are nearer 70% mineral oil and the rest are of synthetic components, surfactants, oil modifiers and anti scuffing agents, zinc and chromium etc.


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[Dubliner]

Many modern auto oils have molybdenum added and with motorcycle engines having a wet clutch, moly coats everything with a slippery concoction. As the oil is shared between the engine and the clutch, the clutch becomes infected by it and slips accordingly. In that case you have to strip it down and wash all the parts and reassemble, a buddy of mine suggest using diesel for a few miles to flush it out then fresh oil for a day or so then another change to seal the deal.


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[ulflyer]

Many modern auto oils have molybdenum added and with motorcycle engines having a wet clutch, moly coats everything with a slippery concoction. As the oil is shared between the engine and the clutch, the clutch becomes infected by it and slips accordingly. In that case you have to strip it down and wash all the parts and reassemble, a buddy of mine suggest using diesel for a few miles to flush it out then fresh oil for a day or so then another change to seal the deal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Many diesel oils contain Moly, Rotella T for example that is rated Jaso MA. Of the cycle oils I've tested, Valvoline contains the least and Mobil 1 the most. I noticed that Jaybro's lab report of BRP oil contained no significant amount of Moly.
I guess the question is, how much is too much? I've never read the answer to that.

[DrewNJ]

And while diesel is an old school trick for trying to clean sludge out of an engine (most times it does more harm once the sludge cuts loose), I would never, ever, run it in an engine that also shares the oil with the trans and clutch.....no way!

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[Dubliner]

Here is an interesting read for you from S.A.E. http://www.sae.org/search/?qt=Motorcycle+oils&x=0&y=0
and Cal-sci on oil filters http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html
The A.P.I. Site isn't as easy to navigate as the S.A.E. Site, plenty of reading for .. years..


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