Dealer will not install car tire

[Spyder Tony]

We have 2 dealers in our vicinity. Both dealers refused to mount a car tire on a Spyder until about a year ago. Now both dealerships will do it. Basically, they were watching many members of our Sac Chapter club pay a local motorcycle shop to mount them. Now not only do both dealerships perform the service ( 1 requires a waiver be signed), but one of the dealerships stocks and sells the Kumho. The dealerships in our neck of the woods have come a long way with their progressive thinking in the last couple of years...and I commend them for it!

[ICE]

Spyder Tony, can you be more specific as to which dealers in your area install Kumho tires. My service dealer will not go near a non OEM TIRE.

[109spyder]

Question: What is a "stretched" tire?

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[johnwinslow]

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BOB ! google it

[109spyder]

BOB ! google it

No need, I just did

[kep-up]

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Well now, ain't thay just absolutely dumb?!

[kep-up]

My dealer will not install the Kumo car tire. He said it heats up and rubs on fender. Sounds like a bad excuse to me. I told him that on a internet forum, many people have done it with great success. Plus he says it is an hour and half labor charge to do any rear tire. Is that true 1-1/2 hours labor.
Thanks Kenn

I replaced my rear tire two weeks ago. Never changed a spyder tire in my life. From start (setting up the machine on the garage floor) to finish, including balancing and a test ride (and a couple of beers in between) 2 hours.

[109spyder]

Has anyone run an actual bike tyre on the back of a spyder?

[DR Buck]

Did it myself. Took the tire off and took it to a small motorcycle shop and had them remove the old and mount the new tire. Cost me $25. Reinstalled it on the Spydrr myself. About 2 hours, only because I screwed up the belt tension and had to retension it.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

when i bought my hand brake my dealer wouldn't even install that, but i installed it and it was easy. when i was upstate and stopped in at arctic adventures they said they will install whatever you wanted to install and they just have a waiver to sign saying they are not responsible for any problems, if all dealers did this i wouldn't have a problem signing it

the problem with waivers is they may not hold up in court if they are doing something that knowingly may be dangerous or illegal.
dangerous can be something manufacturer says is a no no. i know i am not allowed to disable the tpms light on the dash of a car.

[Bob Denman]

Has anyone run an actual bike tyre on the back of a spyder?

Yeah... The OEM Kenda!!!

Seriously; what advantage would it have? The typical motorcycle designed with a rounded design to aid in cornering...

...You sure don't need that on the flat-cornering Spyders!

[109spyder]

Yeah... The OEM Kenda!!!

Seriously; what advantage would it have? The typical motorcycle designed with a rounded design to aid in cornering...

...You sure don't need that on the flat-cornering Spyders!

I know that and you know that, but there are some strange people out there lol

They put car tyres on two wheelers
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[Bob Denman]

Yes... The Dark Side!!
This happens to a fair amount of GoldWings and Valkyries...

[reissooz]

My dealer has Kumho in stock. Along with Kenda.

in Wisconsin do carries the Kumho in stock? Thanks - I would like to have an option to go to a dealer here in WI that I can work with on tires, etc.

[AMTJIM]

The irony is that a Kenda seems like a downgrade that dealers would not be allowed to install, they are good for immediate shredding and use on a jogging track. Harbor Frieght trailer tires are probably better.

[Bob Denman]

Everybody keeps forgetting one VERY important fact...
The Kenda and Vee tires are currently the only ones that come in the size that we need, AND is rated for use on a motorcycle.
I'm not a fan of the Kenda; but only due to the short lifespan.
It handled well, and never sent any nasty surprises at me!

[Deanna777]

Your dealer will not install your rear tire because he does not want to assume any liability. Some dealers in our area will not install aftermarket tires, dealers say its a liability issue.

In my area, ( in Vermont) a can-am dealer did install my new rear tire, on the "repair order invoice it says"*** THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT DESIGN OR SIZE FOR THIS UNIT, CUSTOMER ASSUMES ALL RESPONSIBILITY.*** I had to initial and " the customer states: Mount and balance rear tire, purchased elsewhere. Deanna

[Deanna777]

My dealer will not install the Kumo car tire. He said it heats up and rubs on fender. Sounds like a bad excuse to me. I told him that on a internet forum, many people have done it with great success. Plus he says it is an hour and half labor charge to do any rear tire. Is that true 1-1/2 hours labor.
Thanks Kenn

I had my local can-am dealer install a new rear tire on spyder, and it took only 1 hour @ the rate of $79.00. Deanna

[NautiBrit]

Kenn, our local dealer, RideNow Peoria has installed 2 car tires for me without a question. Just make sure you check the rims for scratches as he can be a little careless.

[Deanna777]

My Dealer installed with a disclaimer statement on the bill - Customer supplied tire, not recommended by BRP. Or something to that nature......

A can am dealer that I used

( did install a new rear tire that I brought up with me, I called a week before to make an appointment)

did a install and also had a disclaimer on bill that said** Tire is not the correct design or size for this unit, customer assumes all responsibility.** I had to put my initials. Deanna

[TEHelms]

Since my OEM Kenda is almost at the end of life (12,000+), I'm now doing "the search". So, called my dealer and asked if he would install other than the Kenda and he said yes. He asked about my mileage on the tire and how much pressure I had been running (29). He also asked if the wear was pretty much in the middle and said he has been recommending 25-26 on the Kendas since more than that and they tend to wear out faster in the middle.

He said he had mounted regular automobile tires on an RT before and just to make sure they weren't designed to go on one side of the car or the other. He asked if I was considering the Kumho and I told him I was. He said no reports back to him either good or bad. I asked about his price for the Kenda and he said in the $150 range and he knew I could get the Kumho for about $80. He also said he believed the composition of the Kendas had been changed to more adequately work on the RT as opposed to the softer compounds before.

So, my decision is still in the air. I can buy two Kumhos for the price of one Kenda but I don't have stellar reports on either tire. I don't know if the price for the Kenda has to do with the specificity of the tire or not but it seems to me I'm still between the devil and the deep blue sea unless suddenly a reputable manufacturer starts to sell what fits my RT.

[Bob Denman]

The cost of the Kenda seems unusually high... and I also have wondered if it's due to them playing to a captive audience.
It's your bike, and your money; none of us can really tell you what you should do...

But I put a Kumho on mine!

[Gray Ghost]

Question: What is a "stretched" tire?

A tire that has been previously mounted on a rim. In other words, a used tire.

[Bob Denman]

Thanks!
I don't think that anybody mentioned putting a used tire on their bike...

[Gray Ghost]

Thanks!
I don't think that anybody mentioned putting a used tire on their bike...

He responded with what his insurance would not allow him to do. And while it has not been mentioned here I have had people come into the shop and ask us to put used tires on a bike rim. We don't do it either.