Why was thread yanked?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Just wondering what happened to this thread? Someone get PO'd, or did it go so far off Lamont killed it? I had an email notification for a new post but when I clicked on the link it came up with no such thread.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...TSA-RE-2013-RT

[MRH]

Lamont doesn't want legal action against BRP publicly coordinated through the community he created (at least as I understand it).

I think that's his right, and it is probably in the best interests of all of us. There are other ways to address these issues, and he's certainly allowed great latitude for members to voice their views and complaints.

(This is my assumption, I'm not privy to the facts; I only know what I've read in other posts.)

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Lamont doesn't want legal action against BRP publicly coordinated through the community he created (at least as I understand it).

I think that's his right, and it probably in the best interests of all of us. There are other ways to address these issues, and he's certainly allowed great latitude for members to voice their views and complaints.

(This is my assumption, I'm not privy to the facts; I only know what I've read in other posts.)

Considering the fact Lamont's livelihood depends on his relationship with BRP, both direct and through PitBull, he has been exceedingly tolerant. I laud him for it. He does have his limits. I found that out at the BBQ when I decided to see how much the power in my 2013 RT had been boosted by a cat delete, and proceeded to spin cookies in his parking lot. He yelled at me to stop tearing up his parking lot! I didn't think Nanny would let me spin the rear tire but it did, but that still was no excuse for what I did! So Lamont, I don't know if I apologized back then or not, but in any case I will say here and now I apologize for being so insensitive and messing up your parking lot.

That's why I was asking even though the thread had become a pretty heated BRP bash concerning heat issues with pre 2013 Spyders I didn't see where it had become a "let's sue BRP", unless that happened after the last post I was notified of. That was a response to Blueknight's analogy to a sink P trap.

Was it OldGuyin CT who started the thread? I'm thinking it was and wonder if he got fed up with all the non-2013 comments since he started it specifically about the 2013 recall, and yanked it himself. In that case Lamont would have had nothing to do with it being gone.

Mostly I was just curious because I didn't think it had too far, although awfully close, for Lamont to tolerate, and am thinking it might be a refined marker for us to use in monitoring these kinds of discussions.

[ARtraveler]

If the thread you are referring to is the one started by OldGuy, he may have deleted it on his own. Sadly, based on some of the replies in that thread, he posted about leaving the site altogether.

The subject matter has everyone's "hot buttons" pushed. No pun intended.

Those who wish to use the site to gang up on BRP (lawsuit wise) should find another venue. Whether or not to file an individual law suit is IMO, up to the individual. Trying to use the site to obtain further support is not good, IMO of course.

[Mexican]

Why do i always miss the good interesting threads??

[jaherbst]

I thought is was informative and showed how frustrated we all became after numerous recalls to solve this problem, none of which even faintly solved the problem. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent by all of us who purchased these Spyders and trusted BRP to provide what we thought we were paying for. All total I am out about $12,000 after trading for a 2014

Unfortunately emotions were not kept in tow and many who never owned a 2013 got involved with steadfast opinions that did nothing but confuse the issues and cause tempers to flare.

Last I looked before it was pulled I believe there were at least 177 posts on this subject. The most I have ever seen on this site. Too bad it was pulled but it was starting to get a little out of control.

Lamont owns this site and has been very tolerant of us all. I thank him for providing this service free of charge for us all to enjoy and I think we should respect this.

Jack

[coastrider]

Hey Jack, 12k was the cost to me for trading my '13 RT for a '14 too! Must be the magic number!

[DrewNJ]

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[kep-up]

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For petes sake...... this horse is dead . Bury it!

[wyliec]

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I hope you don't mind if I use that quite a bit. I have to say that that is priceless.

[DrewNJ]

Not mine so use it as much as you want. [emoji106] [emoji6]

[jaherbst]

For petes sake...... this horse is dead . Bury it!

Easy for a guy to say if he does not own a 2013 RT, has never owned a 2013 RT, and will never own a 2013 RT. If you had experienced the $12,000 loss or the Heat and Gas fumes you would be singing another tune my friend.

I did like the cartoon though evan if it did poke fun at our hardships.


Jack

[jcthorne]

For petes sake...... this horse is dead . Bury it!

The horse is not done until the issue is resolved. It is not. If you are tired of discussing it, don't read the threads.

[kep-up]

Easy for a guy to say if he does not own a 2013 RT, has never owned a 2013 RT, and will never own a 2013 RT. If you had experienced the $12,000 loss or the Heat and Gas fumes you would be singing another tune my friend.

I did like the cartoon though evan if it did poke fun at our hardships.


Jack

You are probably correct. I'd be pissed.
But maybe start another blog for those of us who have or have had the problem? Then post an update on here occasionally? For a fact, the vitriol is getting tiring.

[trikermutha]

[DrewNJ]

And the more and more all of this goes on and people keep complaining, the less and less the 2013's are worth.....
I know that if I had joined here to research buying a spyder, I'd be scared to death of a 2013!

[DrewNJ]

You are probably correct. I'd be pissed.
But maybe start another blog for those of us who have or have had the problem? Then post an update on here occasionally? For a fact, the vitriol is getting tiring.

Pissed? Sure!. But most normal people would have just sucked it up, and moved on. We've all owned a POS of some sort at some point in our lives....right?
What sense does it make to own something that is supposed to be for pleasure, and being nothing but miserable??
I think people get pleasure in the battle...and being miserable.

[Dan McNally]

Pissed? Sure!. But most normal people would have just sucked it up, and moved on. We've all owned a POS of some sort at some point in our lives....right?
What sense does it make to own something that is supposed to be for pleasure, and being nothing but miserable??
I think people get pleasure in the battle...and being miserable.

Think again . . . I love my Spyder and the last 7,000 miles have been trouble free . . . you make a huge assumption when you decide that everyone who owns a 2013 is miserable with it. Mine is the most fun I've had in many years. I rode to SpyderQuest last year, to the Ohio Spyder Rally, last year, rode the Blue Ridge and Skyline Drive, rode the Back of the Dragon, . . . and enjoyed every bit of it. I leave in April for a ride to Tucson AZ and back on my 2013 Spyder . . . not something I'd do if I was miserable and unhappy with it.

Please stick to reasonable comments and keep the troll stuff to yourself. If you have never owned a 2013 RT, all you have to say about them are assumptions . . . and your assumptions are dead wrong.

[DrewNJ]

Think again . . . I love my Spyder and the last 7,000 miles have been trouble free . . . you make a huge assumption when you decide that everyone who owns a 2013 is miserable with it. Mine is the most fun I've had in many years. I rode to SpyderQuest last year, to the Ohio Spyder Rally, last year, rode the Blue Ridge and Skyline Drive, rode the Back of the Dragon, . . . and enjoyed every bit of it. I leave in April for a ride to Tucson AZ and back on my 2013 Spyder . . . not something I'd do if I was miserable and unhappy with it.

Please stick to reasonable comments and keep the troll stuff to yourself. If you have never owned a 2013 RT, all you have to say about them are assumptions . . . and your assumptions are dead wrong.

Good to actually see someone stick up for, and say something positive about their machine as well as not being miserable [emoji106]

[Dgjason]

No misery here..2013 ST Limited

Dennis

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Good to actually see someone stick up for, and say something positive about their machine as well as not being miserable [emoji106]

The only two significant issues I've had with mine were both not related to heat - DPS failure and air shock leakage. Otherwise I put 13,000 fun miles on it last year! I even fill the tank right up to the filler neck without problems. I will admit my machine is not 100% fume free but have had no fumes that have been unbearable. And it does get hot in southern Idaho in the summer. In fact on the return on both of my two trips to Louisiana the last two falls the warmest part of the trip was the last day in Idaho!

[Dan McNally]

I've learned that if I top off with gas, right before I get home (less than a half mile from the gas station) there are no fumes. If I lived farther from the gas station, I'd keep a full gas can at home to do the same. The cooler gas being pumped in stops the boiling and the expansion and fuming . . . pretty simple solution, and my Spyder is always fueled and ready to hit the road.

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

First of all,you have to admit the image from DrewNJ was funny. Second of all, the way this thread is going, it will be the next to get yanked. Cheer up people, we will all be back on our Spyders soon, talking about all the great trips we made, and complaing about all the cages cutting us off. Good Times!!!!

[jaherbst]

No misery here..2013 ST Limited

Dennis

Just a reminder here Dennis, this thread is about the 2013 RT, RTS and RT Limited.

Glad you like and enjoy your 2013
ST.

We have a good friend whose 2013 burst into flames on the Hiway and totally burned to the ground. Luckily she got off without serious injuries. I no longer wanted to expose my wife to this danger ( we had severe gas fumes all the time). After working with BRP on several fixes I really saw no solution to this in the near future. Traded for a 2014 which we love but it did cost a lot. What is your or your wife's life worth. That was the question.

There are good Spyders out there but not when the temps reach 90-120 degrees and you are driving a 2013 RT.

Jack

[SNOOPY]

Why do i always miss the good interesting threads??

Because they are always deleted.



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