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    Default VETERANS, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION

    On Brian Williams' flat out lying about being in a helicopter hit by an RPG? Personally, I think that he should have been fired already. Just MHO as a Veteran.
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    It's called "Stolen Valor" while not against the law it certainly speaks to character.
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    I think he needs to be fired and one veteran of each branch should be allowed to kick his ass. I pick Chuck Norris to do the honors for the USAF. James M. Baker MSgt, USAF ret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Paw View Post
    It's called "Stolen Valor" while not against the law it certainly speaks to character.





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    If fired, it'll be unlike NBC to act in such an uncharacteristicly honorable way. Lying to the public via the main stream news is just one of the tools used daily. To admit to a lie is way outside of their normal play book. They'd be charting unfamiliar territory for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguyinCT View Post
    On Brian Williams' flat out lying about being in a helicopter hit by an RPG? Personally, I think that he should have been fired already. Just MHO as a Veteran.
    He needs to be released from his position. It is a slap in the face to all veterans on how he lied about his journalism in that copter!!! How much other stuff has he lied about and never been caught/challenged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguyinCT View Post
    On Brian Williams' flat out lying about being in a helicopter hit by an RPG? Personally, I think that he should have been fired already. Just MHO as a Veteran.

    I think if he claims to have been in a helicopter with a RPG then we should teach him how to fly one then shoot him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Paw View Post
    It's called "Stolen Valor" while not against the law it certainly speaks to character.

    Its not really "Stolen Valor" because he did not receive a benefit specifically targeted for military personnel and/or Vets. As a Retired Vet I do understand where you are coming from. And "Stolen Valor" is a law making doing so illegal.

    It is however an outright lie by a person placed in public trust job. Much like we cannot say "Fire" in a theater, we should hold our media outlets and their employees to the same level of accountability in their reporting the news both accurately and completely.

    Mr Williams needs to be terminated as an example to others not to embellish a story for either personal or professional glorification. Next person to be fired for lying to America while holding a position of public trust, Mr O-Blame-U.....then Ms Pelosi.....followed closely by Mr Reed. A lifetime ban on Ms Clinton from holding a public office. Cleaning house is a dirty job but one that needs to be done!

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    Default Shameful..!!

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    NBC will do NOTHING. They have a track record of adjusting the truth,
    the travon martin 911 edited phone call is a prime example.


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    Hi oldguyinCT,

    Re: flat out lying

    I disagree completely; and I'm a vet also.

    He said he made a mistake. How many people on here have never made a mistake?

    He also apologized. That's good enough for me.

    I hope he comes back soon because I think he is one of the best at what he does.

    As for the news got getting something right; that is a far bigger issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim's_Spyder View Post
    I think he needs to be fired and one veteran of each branch should be allowed to kick his ass. I pick Chuck Norris to do the honors for the USAF. James M. Baker MSgt, USAF ret.
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    If he had any honor, he would have quit in disgrace already.

    If NBC had any honor, you would not need to ask the question. He would have been fired already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi oldguyinCT,

    Re: flat out lying

    I disagree completely; and I'm a vet also.

    He said he made a mistake. How many people on here have never made a mistake?

    He also apologized. That's good enough for me.

    I hope he comes back soon because I think he is one of the best at what he does.

    As for the news got getting something right; that is a far bigger issue.

    Just my $0.02,

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    I agree with you. He owned up to his mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    I agree with you. He owned up to his mistake.

    True.....but like a politician, he only did so AFTER being caught and called out by fellow Vets.

    How many of us would still have a job if our employer knew we were blatantly telling lies to promote ourselves?

    How many of us would be hired if our potential employer knew we lied on out resume'?

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    I will try to keep it to the subject at hand also.

    : I do believe the man told an outright lie. I would sure remember if I was in a helicopter crash. Would also know if I was following behind one and watched the scene unfold before me.

    : Now, other stories (catching cooties from the water during Katrina, seeing a body float by from his hotel room (Katrina)) are coming into question, so his credibility is shot.

    : I am predicting Lester Holt is going to be the new "man" for NBC.

    : I have been a fan of Brian Williams and NBC for years. Not so, after this.


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    Everybody has memory farts. But being in a helicopter that was hit by a RPGS, that you would remember.


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    Who would ever watch ABC, NBC, CBS, or CNN for news? I better end this before I step out of line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    Who would ever watch ABC, NBC, CBS, or CNN for news? I better end this before I step out of line...
    Lesser of evils?

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    Sad. Journalists are supposed to display the highest level of integrity and impartiality. Interestingly, had a military officer publiclly made such a statement, they would be relieved. I Think Mr. Williams has lost sight of his purpose - report the news; exactly as it happens, every time!
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    Default YOU WOULD THINK

    That Brian had heard of someone named .......DAN RATHER ?????????...........His was an intertesting story also !!!!!...........Mike

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    i may never have been in the military but i have zero tolerance for liars. kick his ass & nbc should sue him
    for all the years since he told the lie, they should be allowed to get reimbursed for the salary he stole from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi oldguyinCT,

    Re: flat out lying

    I disagree completely; and I'm a vet also.

    He said he made a mistake. How many people on here have never made a mistake?

    He also apologized. That's good enough for me.

    I hope he comes back soon because I think he is one of the best at what he does.

    As for the news got getting something right; that is a far bigger issue.

    Just my $0.02,

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    he said he made a "mistake." A MISTAKE? Say what? He flippin' LIED! Multiple times over and over! I used to think he made sense, but now his credibility is gone. How many other times did he "make a mistake" while reporting a crucial piece of news? He's done.

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    There is alot of phonys and impersonators out there as well as people who stretch the truth.
    He lied has nothing to do with valor. BUT has everything to do with character.
    WHO are we to judge????
    JUST MY OPINION. At least he lived up to it where most would not!!!!

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