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    Default Called BRP about disparity of the break in mileage recommendations

    I called BRP this morning about disparity of break in mileage service recommendations between owners manual and dealership recommendations on my 2014 RT.. the person I talked to said they checked & the 600 mile recommendation is correct.. I was also told that there are 2 campaign service bulletins that affect the 2014 RTs.. Dealer should have the announcements from BRP...

    Thought I would pass on my findings after talking to BRP ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Spyder Man View Post
    I called BRP this morning about disparity of break in mileage service recommendations between owners manual and dealership recommendations on my 2014 RT.. the person I talked to said they checked & the 600 mile recommendation is correct.. I was also told that there are 2 campaign service bulletins that affect the 2014 RTs.. Dealer should have the announcements from BRP...

    Thought I would pass on my findings after talking to BRP ..

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    This comes up far too often. I can understand when the 1330 was brand new, but it's been a year. Dealer education a problem?

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    Default what is the discrepancy?

    Sorry if there are other threads already about this. I have a 2012 RT currently so I haven't been paying close attention to the 1330 ACE threads. I've got an F3 on order, so I want to be prepared.
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    The 998 (since filter update) requires break in maintenance at 600 miles then regular maintenance each 4600 miles thereafter.

    the 1330 requires break in maintenance at 3000 miles and the regular maintenance every 9300 miles thereafter. I have 25000 miles on my 2014 RT and have had the first three required maintenances . I might add without burning a drop of oil...
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    Do you mean "break-in" or interval to the first oil change? My '14 RTS went to 3000 miles before it's first service. But for the first few hundred miles I tried to take it easy on the speed, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerDoc View Post
    The 998 (since filter update) requires break in maintenance at 600 miles then regular maintenance each 4600 miles thereafter.

    the 1330 requires break in maintenance at 3000 miles and the regular maintenance every 9300 miles thereafter. I have 25000 miles on my 2014 RT and have had the first three required maintenances . I might add without burning a drop of oil...

    I agree (except i only have 22,000 Miles)

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    C'mon Joe; you're falling behind!
    You're only about 10,000 miles behind Ann.
    If you ride it at 100 miles per hour average; you can catch her in just over 4 days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Spyder Man View Post
    I called BRP this morning about disparity of break in mileage service recommendations between owners manual and dealership recommendations on my 2014 RT.. the person I talked to said they checked & the 600 mile recommendation is correct.. I was also told that there are 2 campaign service bulletins that affect the 2014 RTs.. Dealer should have the announcements from BRP...

    Thought I would pass on my findings after talking to BRP ..

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    I am curious as to who it was at "BRP" you talked to. Surely nobody at the tech support office for Can Am products would have given you such bad information.

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    Default I think you just added to your

    confusion. Someone here please correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand it's 600 mile break-in and 3000 mile service.


    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Spyder Man View Post
    I called BRP this morning about disparity of break in mileage service recommendations between owners manual and dealership recommendations on my 2014 RT.. the person I talked to said they checked & the 600 mile recommendation is correct.. I was also told that there are 2 campaign service bulletins that affect the 2014 RTs.. Dealer should have the announcements from BRP...

    Thought I would pass on my findings after talking to BRP ..

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    Page 122 of the 2014 RT manual says that the Break-in servicing occurs at 3000 miles.
    9300 miles between servicing.2014 RT Servicing.jpg
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    Ahhhhh Semantics. Is this what we mean?

    Break in: The time allowed to loosen up the engine, get all parts seated properly etc. Most new motorcycles should be driven at varying speeds and gear positions, easy on the brakes and tires, and no high speed red line operation the first 500 miles or so.


    Break in service intervals: the 998 goes back to the dealer for the first oil change at around 600 miles.

    The 1330 goes back to the dealer for first oil change at 3000 miles, then at 9300 miles later.
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    Ok...I got this from BRP after my phone conversation today 12/2/14 .. its a correction of what I was told earlier today...

    Thank you for taking the time to contact BRP. this is an exact copy of the email I received:

    I followed up further with our Technical Department regarding the break-in inspection on your 2014 Spyder RT. This model was given a new engine for 2014 and it does not require a break-in inspection until 3000 miles. Please see below the information I received:

    "As the engine on the RT 2014 have change, we now recommend the first inspection at 3000 miles. The RS and ST model still have the old engine model. There is no error on the ops guide. I highly suggest to call back the customer as this inspection cost few hundred dollars."



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    To re-iterate: 2014 RT Servicing.jpg
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    Default As I see it..!!

    it's the same old problem..what year and model do you have. Because the 2014 RT's got the new engine some are thinking all 14's got the new engine. So remember the ST, RS and RSS still have the same engine as before. This is why we stress posting year and model...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    C'mon Joe; you're falling behind!
    You're only about 10,000 miles behind Ann.
    If you ride it at 100 miles per hour average; you can catch her in just over 4 days...

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    I'm slowing down. I've only got 33,000 miles now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    To re-iterate: 2014 RT Servicing.jpg
    Like it bob. [emoji106] where's tire replacement data?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I'm slowing down. I've only got 33,000 miles now.

    Unless my Math is off; I think that you're the mileage champ for this year

    ...So Far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Ahhhhh Semantics. Is this what we mean?

    Break in: The time allowed to loosen up the engine, get all parts seated properly etc. Most new motorcycles should be driven at varying speeds and gear positions, easy on the brakes and tires, and no high speed red line operation the first 500 miles or so.


    Break in service intervals: the 998 goes back to the dealer for the first oil change at around 600 miles.

    The 1330 goes back to the dealer for first oil change at 3000 miles, then at 9300 miles.
    AT 9300 miles, or 9300 later at 12,300? I have seen 2 different quotes on this recently??
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    12,300 miles...
    Once you get past the original 3,000 break-in service; oil changes occur every 9,300 miles, OR one year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    12,300 miles...
    Once you get past the original 3,000 break-in service; oil changes occur every 9,300 miles, OR one year...


    Whichever comes first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    C'mon Joe; you're falling behind!
    You're only about 10,000 miles behind Ann.
    If you ride it at 100 miles per hour average; you can catch her in just over 4 days...

    (MY mileage: don't ask! )
    I don't think any of us will catch Ann
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieSpyder View Post
    Do you mean "break-in" or interval to the first oil change? My '14 RTS went to 3000 miles before it's first service. But for the first few hundred miles I tried to take it easy on the speed, etc.
    I come from a different school of "break in". During the early miles I ride a bike like I plan to ride it later - which means hard and fast....So far it has worked for me through 3 Spyders and over 100,000 miles with virtually trouble free riding (except for lousy OEM tires)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerDoc View Post
    I don't think any of us will catch Ann
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclekid58 View Post
    AT 9300 miles, or 9300 later at 12,300? I have seen 2 different quotes on this recently??
    BRPcare said at 9300 miles later (12,300) for the second oil change--then at 9300 mile intervals or once a year whichever comes sooner. But I am not going to push the issue.

    If you change the oil a bit earlier, you are not going to hurt anything.
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    Amen...
    Oil is real cheap; compared to engine re-builds...
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